Professional training beyond CCW?

[Guest Todd@CIS]

I'd love to hear about everyone's private sector, commercial firearms school training experiences...beyond their CCW/HCP class.

[Guest bkelm18]

I've thought about it, but never really put much effort into finding and paying for one. I'd be interested in it in the future when I make the big bucks. *Le sigh* always in the future.... haha.

[dunndw]

I took the NRA Personal Protection in the home class With Len from HGR Firearms(Instructed by Greg) and I've been to Advanced handgun I at "The Range" Both of them were well worth the $$$. The Adv Handgun class was A flippin blast. It's not often you get to have a SWAT instructor yelling at you MOVE MOVE..COVER, RELOAD, TWO TO THE CHEST, ONE TO THE HEAD

now..I've been looking into your defensive handgun classes as well....

[strickj]

i dont have a need for any.being a wheelchair user i pretty much have to stand my groud(pun intended)cant really run for cover and shoot at the same time.its one or the other.

[Im Neero]

I've taken the Level II handgun course at Rangemaster and found it to be a great value.

[Guest Phantom6]

i dont have a need for any.being a wheelchair user i pretty much have to stand my groud(pun intended)cant really run for cover and shoot at the same time.its one or the other.

While both can be and generally are important, there's a whole lot more to it than shooting while moving to cover.

[DMark]

Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, and a couple of others on the taxpayer's dime.

I liked those that didn't preach a doctrine that their way was the only way. Those that trained to a mindset are the best.

And yea - - - Clint Smith tends to talk fast or maybe I was just listening slow.

[strickj]

Gunsite, Thunder Ranch, and a couple of others on the taxpayer's dime

does that men there free?

[DMark]

does that men there free?

Trust me....., The skills acquired from your (and my) taxdollar was put to good use.

[strickj]

is it for loe's only or can we sign up?

[DMark]

is it for loe's only or can we sign up?

I've gone mostly to LEO/Military classes, but civilain courses are the bread & butter for most of these places.

Oh I almost forgot "FrontSight" outside of Vegas where I took a subgun course that was with a civilian class.

Funny...., but there was a couple of other "students" with haircuts like mine. Hmmmmmm.

[Guest Len]

I've taken (and instruct) a bunch of the NRA series of courses -Handgun, Shotgun, Personal Protection Inside the Home, Reloading, Refuse to be a Victim, etc. I've also obviously been through the basic instructor course as well as Pistol Instructor. Each has been of some value to me (although I must admit I have learned more from teaching than from taking classes) and is worth the $ IMHO. The new personal protection series (in the home/outside the home) is very good, and resides somewhere between the intensity levels of a carry permit course and a course at a place like Tactical Response, FrontSight, Thunder Ranch, etc.

A reasonable way to approach taking these classes is to start with a carry permit class, then maybe an NRA course or two (the list is here: http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/basictraining.asp), then go onto something more intense a la Thunder Ranch/Gunsite or one of our in-state providers as the need/interest arises.

Never stop learning and practicing. For some of us the best way to do that is to take lots of classes, for others it is intense practice sessions at the range, for others it is going to work every day.

My place (www.hgrfirearms.com) will do a special NRA Personal Protection series for TGO members in Middle TN in Jan or Feb if there is enough interest. We need at least 6 students (we have 2 already). PPITH is one day, all day. PPOTH will be over 2 days.

We can do a discount for TGO members as well. I'll get some possible dates from Greg (HGR boss man) and post them here. We'll see if anyone is interested.

Pre-req for the courses is NRA Pistol I or similar experience/aptitude. (A carry permit plus job experience, military service, or a shoot pre-test can suffice as well.)

Dunndw: I'll keep you posted, obviously you would only need to attend the 2nd half of the series.

[Guest Dusty Rhodes]

I got a list of instructor/trainers from the NRA for Tri Cities area of E. Tn.

Quite a list especially in the Johnson City area. Anyone had experience with anyone in this area they can suggest I contact.

I'm looking for handgun proficency/self defense with hanndgun and such.

[Guest Phantom6]

In the Tri-Cities area I'd strongly suggest Bob Camponovo. Otherwise come on down to Oak Ridge and take one with us.

[Guest Todd@CIS]

My place (www.hgrfirearms.com) will do a special NRA Personal Protection series for TGO members in Middle TN in Jan or Feb if there is enough interest. We need at least 6 students (we have 2 already). PPITH is one day, all day. PPOTH will be over 2 days.

We can do a discount for TGO members as well. I'll get some possible dates from Greg (HGR boss man) and post them here. We'll see if anyone is interested.

Pre-req for the courses is NRA Pistol I or similar experience/aptitude. (A carry permit plus job experience, military service, or a shoot pre-test can suffice as well.)

Holy thread hi-jac, Batman.

This thread was started to hear about member's training experiences, not for us "commercial-types" to pimp classes...

I'd love to hear about more member training experiences.

[Guest Len]

Agreed on both counts. I have heard many positive things about Bob and also Austin's place. Their fine rep even makes its way to middle TN. I believe Bob is an NRA Senior Training Counselor, which is 2 steps up from a NRA Instructor.

In the Tri-Cities area I'd strongly suggest Bob Camponovo. Otherwise come on down to Oak Ridge and take one with us.

[Guest db99wj]

ARMY TRAINING.....SIR!

Formal Street level training class and some other non organized things

[Guest David Waldrip]

Level II at RangeMaster, and that was VERY beneficial to me. Would highly recommend it.

In fact, it's time I audit that class again and then take Level III.

[DMark]

.... I'd love to hear about more member training experiences.

Todd,

Just my 2 cents worth.......

If your thinking about "advance" training then make it something that doesn't waste the experienced student's time.

Nothing pisses me off more than a upfront three hour block of lawyer led gun safety rules prior to ever getting to the subject of the course (and the shooting).

Establish some degree of prior training to get into the class and then get on with it. If a student proves that they are out of their element and the training is too advance then invite them back to do more basic level of training and apply their fee to that training.

Focus your training on the task needed - - - Team Four Stack Entry & Room Clearing is best left to the pros. Room to room clearing for a homeowner to get to a love one is good for the HCP holder.

BTW - One of the best training ideas I ever took part in was a "family" drill where the shooter trained with their real love ones on what to do if the bad guys came into their living space (home, car, etc.). Just the mindset of having the wife & kids to understand what Dad would be doing was some of the best training I have taken part in. Also getting the wife to conduct her own "failure-drill" on Dad going down and now its time to pickup his weapon and continue the fight was PRICELESS!

[Guest Shooting Coach]

Some trainers do not think to train the family. This is a must. If the family head takes all the advanced training in the world, and the family panics in a situation because THEY were not included in the training, the chances of getting everybody out of the line of fire just got slim.

Getting the family to the range is another matter. Having number two in the family train picking up the firearm from the fallen head is a must. If the Father/Husband goes down, and the next in line does not retrieve the firearm or access their own and march on, then she and/or the kids may not survive!

You folks on this forum who have families read this and think REAL HARD.

Airsoft training can make this happen!!!!

[creeky]

Getting the family to the range is another matter. Having number two in the family train picking up the firearm from the fallen head is a must. If the Father/Husband goes down, and the next in line does not retrieve the firearm or access their own and march on, then she and/or the kids may not survive!

Hmmm... This would make a good point in both the husband and wife carrying the same weapon. Say a Glock, or same model Sig, Hk, etc.