personal reasons why? "Healthcare"

[Guest strelcevina]

Wrong. Don't get it, get an HSA,................... do what ever you want.

Really? Ask Canada, Russia, England, ......................

I understand it feels good to believe in a utopia, but it doesn't exist nor will it exist here. Ask everyone who has tried.

How can you compare any country with U.S

OK let me ask the world..

first i will start with equipment... how about that ... is that cool with you .

Doctors without equipment, like x-rays, MRI and other stuff, isn't worth that much at all

but just because we all love guns, what better example to use than Worlds Aircraft Carriers.

military equipment

[mikegideon]

Looks like we can kick everybody's ass if we feel like it :-)

[Guest strelcevina]

Looks like we can kick everybody's ass if we feel like it :-)

Hell Yea:D

and that is prove that government can do something good

[Rightwinger]

Your proving OUR point. That's what the Federal government is mandated to do. Provide for the common defense! And they don't always do that well in procurement. That and interstate highways is all I want them to do. We don't even need the post office anymore.

The rest we can and should demand be handled by our own means and methods or let the state we live in handle it.

I have more than 1 dollar in my pocket and if you don't, you aren't handling life or finances correctly. You obviously have access to internet, you don't need that. You probably have a cell phone, don't need that. If you want more, work harder, invent something, dare to be more than you are instead of looking up, vilifying those that did dare and having your fellow "takers" vote to even it up by rule of illegal law.

Otherwise, if you have done all you feel you need to, accept where your at and smile and live the American dream of mediocrity.

[timcalhoun]

Yep, capitalism can and has created a very rich country with a great Navy. But capitalism and socialism/communism is like fire and water. And this bill is like tons of water that may smother us to a meager smolder like much of Europe, and then maybe we too can have one boat. That would be great.

[Rightwinger]

I think I shaved with a Russian Typhoon class boomer last week!

[Guest strelcevina]

Your proving OUR point. That's what the Federal government is mandated to do. Provide for the common defense! And they don't always do that well in procurement. That and interstate highways is all I want them to do. We don't even need the post office anymore.

The rest we can and should demand be handled by our own means and methods or let the state we live in handle it.

I have more than 1 dollar in my pocket and if you don't, you aren't handling life or finances correctly. You obviously have access to internet, you don't need that. You probably have a cell phone, don't need that. If you want more, work harder, invent something, dare to be more than you are instead of looking up, vilifying those that did dare and having your fellow "takers" vote to even it up by rule of illegal law.

Otherwise, if you have done all you feel you need to, accept where your at and smile and live the American dream of mediocrity.

so why not Private military and private hwy's.

ups wait . there is Private military and private hwy's.

and nobody is freaking using it, because is expensive as a hell.

now you know that is seriously expensive, so you fine with Gov. control over that:rolleyes:

Oh please ....

and btw.. 00000+

[timcalhoun]

so why not Private military and private hwy's.

ups wait . there is Private military and private hwy's.

and nobody is freaking using it, because is expensive as a hell.

now you know that is seriously expensive, so you fine with Gov. control over that:rolleyes:

Oh please ....

and btw.. 00000+

Are you stoned?????

[Rightwinger]

Because the Constitution states that the Federal government will provide the standing Army. It's like a rule Strec.

Why are you diverting your argument to the military? You want to go off topic and talk the whole ball of wax you will just dig yourself in a deeper hole.

You want other people to pay for your healthcare. The government is using you and your wishes to grab power, not to help you. It's that simple. It's illegal, cannot and has not worked anywhere in the world and if you try to bring up the few (small) nations like Switzerland you use a specious argument. They were not based on the same structure we are and are now taxing themselves into oblivion trying to be socially progressive.

If everyone were working for the same goals, some of this socialist crap might work but you have the bottom feeders of society that push this and the elitist that wouldn't accept the same standards of healthcare for themselves that vote it into law to keep you all coming back to them and damn the consequences.

I can't go any further without violating the code of conduct but to say you are obviously not able or willing to see the true cause and effect of what's happening so we can't change your mind on this.

If we can't get this repealed and fixed, come back in a few years and tell us all (if your allowed to speak ill of the government at that time) how this all made your life so much better. Until then you should just say thank you to those of us who continue to work hard and pay our way (and your healthcare). At least until we can't see where there is any reason to continue and back into our holes or come forth to take it back. Either way you lose.

[Guest strelcevina]

Are you stoned?????

actually I don't drink, don't smoke , don't do drugs

@Rightwinger

you don't even see right.

you so fast to personally attack, without even noticing it.

like you paying for my health care, and you paying for everybody else to

so that statement make you feel you something important.

your way of thinking is ,,, so you support Obama... you must be poor

[timcalhoun]

actually I don't drink, don't smoke , don't do drugs

@Rightwinger

you don't even see right.

you so fast to personally attack, without even noticing it.

like you paying for my health care, and you paying for everybody else to

so that statement make you feel you something important.

your way of thinking is ,,, so you support Obama... you must be poor

I just asked because it is really hard to read/understand much of what you write. Maybe english is your 2nd language?????

[Rightwinger]

Name the personal attack and I'll apologize.

As to "attacking" those who want the rest of us to pay for what they feel is their rights, I'll go to the grave stating it's wrong and those that think that way are taking up valuable resources like air and water.

"Don't even see right"? What? Translate to English please.

Feel important because my tax dollars will go to you and others that pushed this on us when the majority was totally against it? Not in the least. What I am is totally ticked off that my hard earned dollars go to those who cry the most and don't do what it takes to reach where I'm at. Believe me I'm not rich but I couldn't tell you where the unemployement office is anywhere in the US, nor have I ever taken foodstamps, SSI or any other government support even though there were times I was in dire need. I had some bills to pay this coming week, I sold some guns rather than put it on credit cards or ask for a handout.

Do you feel important taking what you didn't earn in support?

[Guest strelcevina]

I just asked because it is really hard to read/understand much of what you write. Maybe english is your 2nd language?????

actually my 4th:)

[Guest FroggyOne2]

You may know four .. but it seems that you do not understand the one that is being spoken here..

[timcalhoun]

actually my 4th:)

Well there ya go ladies and gents.

So what country are you from? Somewhere in Europe?

[Rightwinger]

I took Spanish in high school and Portuguese in college but I don't claim them as 2nd or 3rd languages since I can't effectively communicate written or orally in either of them.

I also learned some Korean while stationed there. Guess that's my 4 if we are counting.

[Guest strelcevina]

Name the personal attack and I'll apologize.

As to "attacking" those who want the rest of us to pay for what they feel is their rights, I'll go to the grave stating it's wrong and those that think that way are taking up valuable resources like air and water.

"Don't even see right"? What? Translate to English please.

Feel important because my tax dollars will go to you and others that pushed this on us when the majority was totally against it? Not in the least. What I am is totally ticked off that my hard earned dollars go to those who cry the most and don't do what it takes to reach where I'm at. Believe me I'm not rich but I couldn't tell you where the unemployement office is anywhere in the US, nor have I ever taken foodstamps, SSI or any other government support even though there were times I was in dire need. I had some bills to pay this coming week, I sold some guns rather than put it on credit cards or ask for a handout.

Do you feel important taking what you didn't earn in support?

believe you me, i don't know Government help eider. i don't do social support

i would rather work 24/7.

if you would know me personally, you would actually see that in real life we do a lot of things similar. "i just don't know how to express my self on English:)"

your tax dollars will go for you to..

don't forget. it is not "If" it is "When" you need Doctor Help.

so you work hard all your life. and get older, Do you wont to leave your hard earned cash to Insurance or to your family

[timcalhoun]

believe you me, i don't know Government help eider. i don't do social support

i would rather work 24/7.

if you would know me personally, you would actually see that in real life we do a lot of things similar. "i just don't know how to express my self on English:)"

your tax dollars will go for you to..

don't forget. it is not "If" it is "When" you need Doctor Help.

so you work hard all your life. and get older, Do you wont to leave your hard earned cash to Insurance or to your family

Look, giving all your money to the state/king or whatever, and let them take care of you has been done for eons. It has never worked. It always ends in extreme oppression. This is not new, and it is not change! In fact it is just boring, and completely void of imagination. There are many ways we can fix the problem of healthcare. But Obama and the libs solution to everything is to give it to the government, create another broken bureaucracy, and tax the people even more to pay for it. Wow, they are freakin' genuises!!!!

[Guest strelcevina]

You may know four .. but it seems that you do not understand the one that is being spoken here..

sure, I don't speak Hillbilly

[Rightwinger]

I will find anyway possible to NOT be a part of this plan. If it means dropping all insurance then so be it. If my company or my wife's do what we are hearing is the game plan and drop everyone and pay the "fine" so we are all forced to Obama care, I will not have health care and will either pay for what I need out of pocket or just do without. I will also NOT pay their fine and challenge it in court if need be.

If I crap out because of it, it was my time to go, but I'll go a free man and will not have taken the mark of this administrations illegal and immoral grab for power.

Is that your Cadillac on that "Reef" website? Nice car. Wish I could own one.

[Guest strelcevina]

Well there ya go ladies and gents.

So what country are you from? Somewhere in Europe?

how about i show you a picture

Here is picture that shows just Part of the City. Down town is More to the left. not visible on this picture

My building is on the right side of the picture.

[Rightwinger]

Mostar, Bosnia

[Guest SUNTZU]

You already did a thread before where you said you grew up under Tito. What a benevolent man. I sure hope Obama is as great a leader as he was.

[Guest strelcevina]

I will find anyway possible to NOT be a part of this plan. If it means dropping all insurance then so be it. If my company or my wife's do what we are hearing is the game plan and drop everyone and pay the "fine" so we are all forced to Obama care, I will not have health care and will either pay for what I need out of pocket or just do without. I will also NOT pay their fine and challenge it in court if need be.

If I crap out because of it, it was my time to go, but I'll go a free man and will not have taken the mark of this administrations illegal and immoral grab for power.

Is that your Cadillac on that "Reef" website? Nice car. Wish I could own one.

Yes it is. i love my Cadillac. i have it for 10years now

it is one of my many cars i own. can you imagine if i spoke better English:tough:

what better way to say Capitalism works , than to by caddy and paid cash for it

[Guest strelcevina]

Mostar, Bosnia

indeed