Lincoln Davis

[Mark A]

Still a bit new to middle Tn. I see Davis didn't vote for health care. Do you think that they knew they didn't need his vote and gave him a pass? Or, would he not have voted for it either way?

Do we have any good conservative candidates ready to challenge him?

Mark

[midtennchip]

Still a bit new to middle Tn. I see Davis didn't vote for health care. Do you think that they knew they didn't need his vote and gave him a pass? Or, would he not have voted for it either way?

Do we have any good conservative candidates ready to challenge him?

Mark

I missed this post before posting in another forum. However, Davis has traditionally been one of the most conservative Democrats in the House. With that said, there are two Republican challengers that should give him a good run. Jack Bailey and Dr. Scott DesJarlais are competing for the Republican nomination. Bailey is probably the one likely winner, but Dr. DesJarlais has raised a pretty significant amount of money.

[leroy]

I missed this post before posting in another forum. However, Davis has traditionally been one of the most conservative Democrats in the House. With that said, there are two Republican challengers that should give him a good run. Jack Bailey and Dr. Scott DesJarlais are competing for the Republican nomination. Bailey is probably the one likely winner, but Dr. DesJarlais has raised a pretty significant amount of money.

Remember this one thing. At this juncture in history, you can’t live with a "conservative democrat". The reason is that the physical makeup of congress is determined by a simple democrat or republican majority. That means that one democrat or one republican can shift the whole complexion of congress. That's why votes mean things. The reelection Lincoln Davis and other "conservative or blue dog democrats" has allowed Nancy Pelosi to become the Speaker of the House. The Speaker controls the political agenda for the House. That's why you have what you have now.

Lots of people are repulsed by what they perceive as "bitterly partisan' politics. It’s a bad idea to adopt the "why don’t we all just get along" philosophy because of what I am opining about now. Politics, at its core, is a winner takes all proposition. The Demorats are demonstrating to the country and their political enemies (...and they do see us as the enemy...) just how this works. Modern Republicans have for the past few congressional sessions, been far too kind and reasonable for their own good. This kindness all culminated in the running of a weak RINO Republican -- John McCain (... who I happen to like on a personal basis; not a political one...) against a demorat unknown-- Barak Obama--; who whipped the Clintons with the help of the Kennedy dynasty (... now, thankfully laid in the grave...). That election has given us the most heinous bunch of socialist idiots at the helm of this country that we have seen to date in this country’s political history; and the most corrupt bunch of trash that has occupied congress and the white house since post civil war reconstruction.

The moral of this little rant: A vote for a “conservative democrat†is a vote for what you have at the top now. Folks need to look way passed the qualifications, pronouncements, and personalities of the people who hold themselves up to be something that that at this point in history; a myth. That is: a “conservative democrat†for the reasons listed above. Elections have stupendous consequences.

Food for thought

Kind regards,

Leroy

[Guest 6.8 AR]

There may be a good Democrat out there, somewhere, but after this last item voted on, why would anyone in their right mind give them a chance. We were betrayed by their games in the most egregious

theft of freedom since at least FDR's heavy handedness. I can't imagine anyone trusting any of them. Stupak proved there is no such thing as a pro-life Democrat. Gordon knew he would lose, so

he bargained his vote away to be the head of NASA, when he probably never played with an Estes model rocket as a child.

Tanner figured he was gone, and wanted to be an ambassador.

how many examples does anyone need. we don't know about Lincoln Davis and what happened behind closed doors, but would you trust those kinds?

[BrasilNuts]

Remember this one thing. At this juncture in history, you can’t live with a "conservative democrat". The reason is that the physical makeup of congress is determined by a simple democrat or republican majority. That means that one democrat or one republican can shift the whole complexion of congress. That's why votes mean things. The reelection Lincoln Davis and other "conservative or blue dog democrats" has allowed Nancy Pelosi to become the Speaker of the House. The Speaker controls the political agenda for the House. That's why you have what you have now.

Lots of people are repulsed by what they perceive as "bitterly partisan' politics. It’s a bad idea to adopt the "why don’t we all just get along" philosophy because of what I am opining about now. Politics, at its core, is a winner takes all proposition. The Demorats are demonstrating to the country and their political enemies (...and they do see us as the enemy...) just how this works. Modern Republicans have for the past few congressional sessions, been far too kind and reasonable for their own good. This kindness all culminated in the running of a weak RINO Republican -- John McCain (... who I happen to like on a personal basis; not a political one...) against a demorat unknown-- Barak Obama--; who whipped the Clintons with the help of the Kennedy dynasty (... now, thankfully laid in the grave...). That election has given us the most heinous bunch of socialist idiots at the helm of this country that we have seen to date in this country’s political history; and the most corrupt bunch of trash that has occupied congress and the white house since post civil war reconstruction.

The moral of this little rant: A vote for a “conservative democrat†is a vote for what you have at the top now. Folks need to look way passed the qualifications, pronouncements, and personalities of the people who hold themselves up to be something that that at this point in history; a myth. That is: a “conservative democrat†for the reasons listed above. Elections have stupendous consequences.

Food for thought

Kind regards,

Leroy

Great post Leroy! Every person in the US should have to read that.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

im more proud of John Tanner... he's retireing so he had nothing to lose by voteing yes, but he voted NO.. and made that decision way before teh vote happened.

[-boatman-]

I was very surprised by Tanners no vote as well. I just knew that with him retiring and with nothing to lose his vote would be yes.

[Bigiron]

Good post, Leroy.

[Guest HvyMtl]

Actually,we should consider pressing for Democrats to move in this direction. But, hey I am of the view that both parties are bad for this country. We need new choices.

[K191145]

Remember this one thing. At this juncture in history, you can’t live with a "conservative democrat". The reason is that the physical makeup of congress is determined by a simple democrat or republican majority. That means that one democrat or one republican can shift the whole complexion of congress. That's why votes mean things. The reelection Lincoln Davis and other "conservative or blue dog democrats" has allowed Nancy Pelosi to become the Speaker of the House. The Speaker controls the political agenda for the House. That's why you have what you have now.

Lots of people are repulsed by what they perceive as "bitterly partisan' politics. It’s a bad idea to adopt the "why don’t we all just get along" philosophy because of what I am opining about now. Politics, at its core, is a winner takes all proposition. The Demorats are demonstrating to the country and their political enemies (...and they do see us as the enemy...) just how this works. Modern Republicans have for the past few congressional sessions, been far too kind and reasonable for their own good. This kindness all culminated in the running of a weak RINO Republican -- John McCain (... who I happen to like on a personal basis; not a political one...) against a demorat unknown-- Barak Obama--; who whipped the Clintons with the help of the Kennedy dynasty (... now, thankfully laid in the grave...). That election has given us the most heinous bunch of socialist idiots at the helm of this country that we have seen to date in this country’s political history; and the most corrupt bunch of trash that has occupied congress and the white house since post civil war reconstruction.

The moral of this little rant: A vote for a “conservative democrat†is a vote for what you have at the top now. Folks need to look way passed the qualifications, pronouncements, and personalities of the people who hold themselves up to be something that that at this point in history; a myth. That is: a “conservative democrat†for the reasons listed above. Elections have stupendous consequences.

Food for thought

Kind regards,

Leroy

+++ 1

You're absolutly right, no matter who the Democrat is in the national elections, they need to go.

[K191145]

Actually,we should consider pressing for Democrats to move in this direction. But, hey I am of the view that both parties are bad for this country. We need new choices.

If ANY of the House Democrats were true conservatives and truely against what their party did and is about to do in the near future, they would switch their party from Democrat to Republican.

[Oh Shoot]

If ANY of the House Democrats were true conservatives and truely against what their party did and is about to do in the near future, they would switch their party from Democrat to Republican.

Nope. If they had any real cojones, they'd go independent.

So would a lot of Republicans.

But they don't, so they won't.

- OS

[Mike.357]

Nope. If they had any real cojones, they'd go independent.

So would a lot of Republicans.

But they don't, so they won't.

- OS

there is basically no difference between the two parties. There is a lot of lip service from repub's wanting you to believe they are different.

It was very easy for every republican to vote no on the health care train wreck. The no votes made absolutely no difference at all.

[Oh Shoot]

there is basically no difference between the two parties. There is a lot of lip service from repub's wanting you to believe they are different.

It was very easy for every republican to vote no on the health care train wreck. The no votes made absolutely no difference at all.

Yeah, if anything, it shows just how powerful a control over the members the Republican party holds. After all, there were 34 Dems who voted against the HCB. I'd posit that out of the 178 Republicans who voted against it, there were certainly at least a handful, maybe more, who felt it was better passed than not, but were not going to give up the re-election security apparatus of the party. In this sense, more Dems showed their backbones than Repubs.

At any rate, there's little doubt that the GOP cares less about the actual damage to the country their carefully selected spokesmen so publicly decry, than that they see their unified opposition as their best bet to gain more power. And pretty much the same for the Donkeys, too, although there ARE more liberals crazy enough to risk their individual political fortunes for their beliefs, however misguided.

Most telling, of course, is that there are NO independents in the House, and only two in the Senate, and both of those due to pretty special circumstances, and both of them caucus with the Dems.

Most Americans are not nearly as polarized on EVERY issue as either party, and hence why polls show that about 70% say that ALL incumbents should be voted out. But of course they won't.

- OS

Edited March 23, 2010 by OhShoot
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[Chief07]

Still a bit new to middle Tn. I see Davis didn't vote for health care. Do you think that they knew they didn't need his vote and gave him a pass? Or, would he not have voted for it either way?

Do we have any good conservative candidates ready to challenge him?

Mark

Queen Nancy let him go due to he is in trouble in November.

All Dem-o-craps got to go. Micky Mouse couldn't do the damage to our country that the statists did.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

there is basically no difference between the two parties. There is a lot of lip service from repub's wanting you to believe they are different.

It was very easy for every republican to vote no on the health care train wreck. The no votes made absolutely no difference at all.

So, Mike, maybe they should have voted for it? That's some twisted logic. "No difference between the two"? If they're so similar, then why don't you want to change one or the other?

Would you rather roll over and die? I don't understand.

I guess I'm just naive.

[Fivestring63]

Still a bit new to middle Tn. I see Davis didn't vote for health care. Do you think that they knew they didn't need his vote and gave him a pass? Or, would he not have voted for it either way?

Do we have any good conservative candidates ready to challenge him?

Mark

I heard people praising Davis and Tanner for their no vote and I immediately thought the same thing. That the dems didn't need their vote and gave them a pass, especially because they're in conservative Tennessee. If I remember right there were 13 dems that didn't vote for it.

Not sure about Tanner. Maybe he voted no to help the dem thats gonna run in his place.

[Wingshooter]

He could have been given a pass. I called his office several times and several days before the election. Each time, the staffer told me emphatically that he planned to vote "no". That being said, I still don't trust it. Vote him out. As others have said, there is no such thing as a conservative democrat.

[K191145]

He could have been given a pass. I called his office several times and several days before the election. Each time, the staffer told me emphatically that he planned to vote "no". That being said, I still don't trust it. Vote him out. As others have said, there is no such thing as a conservative democrat.

Some southern Dems are more conservative than some northern Pubs but the vital thing to do now is stop Obamalosie, and the only real way to do that is vote out every Democrat possible no matter what their position is.

[Oh Shoot]

..If I remember right there were 13 dems that didn't vote for it. ..

34!

- OS

[Wingshooter]

there is basically no difference between the two parties. There is a lot of lip service from repub's wanting you to believe they are different.

It was very easy for every republican to vote no on the health care train wreck. The no votes made absolutely no difference at all.

No difference? I have to disagree.

The Repubs didn't give us this crap when they were in charge, and I don't believe they wanted it to pass now.

I see a huge difference between the two parties. It is true that they both have corruption, make deals, and don't always tell the truth - that's called a politician and independents are guilty as well. The Republican party is not perfect by any means, but it is 'more perfect' that the Democrat party, IMHO.

My observations show me that Dems generally favor bigger government, pro-choice legislation, gun control and higher taxes. I see the Repubs more in favor of pro-life, pro-2A and lower taxes. The Republicans are also guilty of expanding government, but not nearly as much as the dems. Given the two choices, it's not even close for me. I am a Conservative Republican that supports the Tea Party movement, and I hope the Repubs return to more conservative principles.

This doesn't apply to the RINO's. There are definately bad apples in the republican party that need to get the boot this Nov.

Just my thoughts...

Edited March 24, 2010 by Batman

[Guest 270win]

There are not many 'conservative' Southern Democrats left like what were in the past...as in Zell Miller of Georgia.

I know it is besides the point, but I find it humorous that some of the most conservative/against 'change' people fifty-sixty years ago were democrats and how people now think they are the party that has done so much good for society and for their 'liberal' rights-George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, Robert Byrd (ex Klan officer).

[leroy]

There are not many 'conservative' Southern Democrats left like what were in the past...as in Zell Miller of Georgia.

I know it is besides the point, but I find it humorous that some of the most conservative/against 'change' people fifty-sixty years ago were democrats and how people now think they are the party that has done so much good for society and for their 'liberal' rights-George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Lester Maddox, Robert Byrd (ex Klan officer).

Amen brother!! The Dems have reinvented themselves with the heip of the media and academia. There is, in fact, a continuing conspiracy by many in powerful position in this country to remake it in the image of the great "worker's paradise" that marx envisioned. The core of them sit in the demorat party!!

Keep up the good work!

Kind regards,

Leroy

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I heard people praising Davis and Tanner for their no vote and I immediately thought the same thing. That the dems didn't need their vote and gave them a pass, especially because they're in conservative Tennessee. If I remember right there were 13 dems that didn't vote for it.

Not sure about Tanner. Maybe he voted no to help the dem thats gonna run in his place.

I gave up on Tanner and didn't see how he voted. Regardless, you're probably right about him and his follower. Anything called 'conservative' or 'pro life' in

front of 'democrat' does not exist.

[graywolf]

Nope. If they had any real cojones, they'd go independent.

So would a lot of Republicans.

But they don't, so they won't.

- OS

You've got that right. I've been voting Republican since 1976, and I'm sick of being manipulated. They say what we want to hear, just to get our vote, but they're no different, no better.