Tea Party Rebellion Growing After Vote

[seez52]

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[Guest FroggyOne2]

Don't forget that there is a 2ND Ammendment March on Apr 19th.

[Guest mosinon]

I heard a caller on a talk radio show today that had a good point. Stop calling DC, and call your broker. Time to divest ourselves of government stocks (i.e., GM) and bonds and invest in private, capitalistic entities (i.e., FedEX).

that is plainly ridiculous. With the new taxes why would anyone want to get wealthy? Say you earned fifty grand last year and, because of your hard work, you make a million or two this year. You're going to get taxed at a much higher rate, like 40 percent. Why even bother to make money if the government is just going to take it from you!

[Glenn]

Don't forget that there is a 2ND Ammendment March on Apr 19th.

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Glenn

[Wingshooter]

that is plainly ridiculous. With the new taxes why would anyone want to get wealthy? Say you earned fifty grand last year and, because of your hard work, you make a million or two this year. You're going to get taxed at a much higher rate, like 40 percent. Why even bother to make money if the government is just going to take it from you!

Now that's ridiculous.

Because they want us all to be on welfare so that we will always be at their mercy. That is Obama's plan... get everyone to nurse from the government. Give up if you want, I'm not.

[Wingshooter]

Don't forget that there is a 2ND Ammendment March on Apr 19th.

Thanks. I missed that somehow.

[Guest SUNTZU]

I can't wait to write that check in April that pays for the slaughter of infants. I've always wanted to be that guy. Food for thought.

Matthew 22:21 (King James Version)

21They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

[Guest mosinon]

Now that's ridiculous.

Because they want us all to be on welfare so that we will always be at their mercy. That is Obama's plan... get everyone to nurse from the government. Give up if you want, I'm not.

Tell me more. I'm not sure I disagree. The end does seem to be more government but that always seems to be the end with any legislation. I am trying to think of the last time everything got a little more free.

[Guest FroggyOne2]

Thanks. I missed that somehow.

Your welcome my friend!

[Guest 6.8 AR]

An 'Atlas Shrugged' day wouldn't do very much. Whatever is done would have to have teeth in it. My wife and I have talked about living on one salary and dropping down on the tax bracket. That just hurts to think that way. Whatever will happen needs to include threatening the government with their lives, but I don't how many have that much resolve. Or just walk away, as in Shrugged. This lying and posturing has got to stop.

[Steelharp]

The best solution, in my thinking? If there was someway to get all 300 million of us to just not pay our taxes. Not one dime. Ever. Where would they put us? What could they do? Nothing but wither and die.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

I'd be happy if 1-2 million didn't pay their taxes. I don't know the correct number, but I would guess there are less than 100 million

individual tax forms filed each year. Close to that figure anyway.

It would be hard enough to cage a million.

[ShamGlock]

I'd be happy if 1-2 million didn't pay their taxes. I don't know the correct number, but I would guess there are less than 100 million

individual tax forms filed each year. Close to that figure anyway.

It would be hard enough to cage a million.

In order to make this work you have to have a way to live entirely out of the system. You can't put your name on anything digital or concrete. You have to deal in cash or barter only and keep your cash on you or somewhere safe out of a bank. Your name can not be on anything of value because they will take it. You have to find a job that pays cash under the table. They don't care so much about putting you in jail, they will just take what you owe right out of your bank account or out of your paycheck. Trust me, I know.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

In order to make this work you have to have a way to live entirely out of the system. You can't put your name on anything digital or concrete. You have to deal in cash or barter only and keep your cash on you or somewhere safe out of a bank. Your name can not be on anything of value because they will take it. You have to find a job that pays cash under the table. They don't care so much about putting you in jail, they will just take what you owe right out of your bank account or out of your paycheck. Trust me, I know.

I understand and yes, that would be difficult. I think that any action should be directly in the face. That is what the original Tea Party did. Those guys refused taxation on that cheap tea they were offered.

[molonlabetn]

Why do ya think the IRS bought all those shotguns last year....?

[Guest FroggyOne2]

Why do ya think the IRS bought all those shotguns last year....?

Good point

[Guest FroggyOne2]

http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/US-Health-Overhaul-Tea/2010/03/23/id/353541Tea party activists aren't just angry that Democrats passed a major healthcare overhaul — they also are out for revenge.They do not see passage of the landmark reforms that usher in near-universal medical coverage as the end of the debate. Tea partyers instead vow to support attorneys general who plan a lawsuit seeking to declare the law unconstitutional. They are demanding the bill be repealed or not funded and want to kick out of office all supporters of the measure.So far, the nascent movement has almost reveled in its rebellious and grass-roots nature and has avoided becoming as much a part of the establishment as the Republican and Democratic parties. But some tea party organizers see the healthcare debate as a galvanizing force that could stir its followers to greater action and something to rally around with midterm elections this year.In states across the country, tea party groups planned protests and vowed to target any congressional member who supported the measure passed Sunday night."There's going to be a whole, all-out effort for an Election Day onslaught," said Michael Caputo, a public relations consultant who works with tea party activists on the national level, as well as in Florida and New York. "The health care process has been an incendiary issue for the tea party organizations since day one. Losing that vote is going to inflame them more."The number of tea party groups has been growing for a little more then a year. Many in the movement were previously not politically active and have a strong independent streak, making organization sometimes difficult.Most share a common belief that government spending and influence should be limited and they're angry about policies President Barack Obama and the Democratic-controlled Congress are implementing, including last year's $787 billion federal stimulus package and healthcare.During a conference call with tea party activists Monday night, Eric Odom of the Patriot Caucus mapped ambitious plans to set up state chapters, organize voters online and raise money to oust incumbents who supported the healthcare overhaul.He predicted that the vote would increase support for the movement across the country.The government "has declared war on our way of life," said Odom, who is from Nevada."It's now time to boot them from office," said Odom, who chairs the Liberty First PAC, a fundraising arm of the group. "We absolutely must have your help."In Florida, about 85 tea party groups encompass about 100,000 people, according to Everett Wilkinson, a leader in the state's movement. A small rally is being planned in Boca Raton on Tuesday with more likely the rest of the week in response to the vote, he said.There are similar reactions elsewhere."We will be more determined than ever to see that this country is governed the way the constitution intended," said Brenda Bowen, a tea party organizer in Greenville, Ala. "We are all getting our second wind. When we do, you'd better watch out."Even though they didn't stop the bill, Tim Dake, organizer of the Milwaukee-area group GrandSons of Liberty, said he and others intend to push for a state constitutional amendment that would prohibit forcing people to buy health insurance. Republicans introduced it in the Democratic-controlled Wisconsin Legislature, but a hearing is not scheduled.The Republican-controlled Legislature is pushing a similar measure in Florida. If lawmakers put it on the ballot, at least 60 percent of voters would have to approve it.Christen Varley, head of the Greater Boston Tea Party Organizers, said the House health vote was a "heartbreaking" wake-up call."I think we all went to bed a little dejected last night, but from the communication I received this morning, people are energized," Varley said.Sarah Palin is scheduled to headline a tea party rally on historic Boston Common on April 14.Massachusetts already has a form of universal healthcare, yet the state made passage of the bill more difficult when voters elected Republican Scott Brown to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedy, who spent nearly his entire career pushing for healthcare for all. Brown's election took away Democrats' filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.Willie Lawson, a Tampa-area conservative radio talk show host who speaks at tea party rallies, wondered what effect the vote will have on an April 15 event at a University of South Florida stadium."It's just a big punch in the gut. It really is to a lot of people," said Lawson, who wondered whether people new to the movement will be discouraged by the vote and not bother to come. Others, he's sure, will just be more fired up."For some people it will just be more raw meat, more raw meat out the back door to get people to come," he said. "The hardcore people will be there. They'll be angrier than ever."Whether tea partyers will be able to turn anger into organization may vary from state to state."People in the Tea Party movement are fiercely independent. They don't like being told what to do. It's like herding cats," said Chad Capps, strategy coordinator for a Huntsville, Ala., group.While tea party activists have made themselves heard, University of North Florida political science professor Matthew Corrigan said the movement alone won't be enough to oust incumbents."Do they have energy? Yes. Have they been getting into the media? Yes, but they still haven't sold me on the fact that they can swing elections," Corrigan said. He added, however, that tea party activists could be more influential if they work with Republicans against Democrats.And for Wilkinson, it doesn't just stop at voting out the lawmakers who supported the measure."When they leave office, we're going to make sure the private sector is aware of who they are and we'll make it virtually impossible for them to have a job even after they leave office," Wilkinson said. "Wherever they are, we will be there. We are not stopping. We're not going away. This is just the beginning."

[MCSCOTT]

I say we plan a strike day. Sometime a couple of months now, time to get the word out. No one goes to work, no one buys anything, just quit for a day. Sort of along the Atlas Shrugged theme, cept. we do if for just one day. They got the morons planning to turn their lights off for an hour next saturday we can just eliminate productivity and commerce for one day.

BTW, I'm planning on turning every damn light in the house on next saturday during their stupid deal.

Only issue with that is that the way your normal everyday American thinks, they would be all for this kinda thing, but would make sure they were prepared for their day of not buying anything. They would just buy what they would need on that day ahead of time, or twice as much the day after, which means the government still gets their tax dollars. Then to top it off, on the side of staying home from work, you've got alot of folks like me that have a salary based pay, so I'm going to get paid for that day whether I'm here or not, and again the government gets their money either way. And to go one even better, if everyone should happen to pull off this 1 day (or even longer) strike, the government would be forced to go up on taxes once everyone got back to work to cover what they lost during this time, and the aftermath would be even worse because these taxes wouldn't go down once the money had been made up. I've thought long and hard on the starving of the government, and at this point I don't really see any good way of doing it without giving up absolutely everything we've worked for.