Online Petition for TN to disregard Obamacare

[Oh Shoot]

Ya know, I guess this is sort of a feel good strike for liberty and all, but it would likely be 4 years before it would even be duked out between TN and the Feds. And even then, only folks who had no insurance would be affected.

Just like the "homegrown firearms" statute has not had occasion to be tested.

How about TN refusing to remit federal taxes on medical items and whatnot produced in the state that the law requires?

Something that would make the fur fly right now?

- OS

Edited March 23, 2010 by OhShoot

[Guest SUNTZU]

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[Wingshooter]

Ya know, I guess this is sort of a feel good strike at liberty and all, but it would likely be 4 years before it would even be duked out between TN and the Feds. And even then, only folks who had no insurance would be affected.

Just like the "homegrown firearms" statute has not had occasion to be tested.

- OS

I think preserving the freedom to choose if you want it or not affects us all and generations to come. It's more than a feel good strike at liberty, it's a challenge to the Socialists that seek to destroy our nation.

[Oh Shoot]

I think preserving the freedom to choose if you want it or not affects us all and generations to come. It's more than a feel good strike at liberty, it's a challenge to the Socialists that seek to destroy our nation.

Well, that's cool, but a lot can happen in 4 years.

I doubt the Feds will do anything about it until it affects tax money flow from the state or your pocket to the Fed coffer. I guess you could call it a "shot over the bow". Or "paper tiger", depending on the future.

The "made in TN" firearms thing is also for now only a paper tiger, too.

We'll see.

- OS

[Guest SUNTZU]

Well, that's cool, but a lot can happen in 4 years.

I doubt the Feds will do anything about it until it affects tax money flow from the state or your pocket to the Fed coffer. I guess you could call it a "shot over the bow". Or "paper tiger", depending on the future.

The "made in TN" firearms thing is also for now only a paper tiger, too.

We'll see.

- OS

Wyoming's at least has teeth. It still awaits testing of whether or not it will be enforced.

http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2010/Introduced/HB0095.pdf

13 (Any official, agent or employee of the United

14 States government who enforces or attempts to enforce any

15 act, order, law, statute, rule or regulation of the United

16 States government upon a personal firearm, a firearm

17 accessory or ammunition that is manufactured commercially

18 or privately in Wyoming and that remains exclusively within

19 the borders of Wyoming shall be guilty of a felony and,

20 upon conviction, shall be subject to imprisonment for not

21 more than two (2) years, a fine of not more than ten

22 thousand dollars ($10,000.00), or both.

Firearms Freedom Act

[Oh Shoot]

Wyoming's at least has teeth. It still awaits testing of whether or not it will be enforced...

Yeah, I wonder if the Feds will sacrifice one of their agents to test this one out.

Shoot Out in Cheyenne, wow.

- OS

[Guest Straight Shooter]

Done and emailed.

[Guest 6.8 AR]

Well, that's cool, but a lot can happen in 4 years.

I doubt the Feds will do anything about it until it affects tax money flow from the state or your pocket to the Fed coffer. I guess you could call it a "shot over the bow". Or "paper tiger", depending on the future.

The "made in TN" firearms thing is also for now only a paper tiger, too.

We'll see.

- OS

You might see that teeth will be added soon to ours. I'll

bet it will. A good shot over the bow is a good idea. Sometimes all this talk turns into something, OS.

[Oh Shoot]

You might see that teeth will be added soon to ours. I'll

bet it will. A good shot over the bow is a good idea. Sometimes all this talk turns into something, OS.

Maybe. I'm all for the individual and states' rights aspect of the idea.

But in an extended societal sense, it also promotes NOT having health insurance at all, and that is good exactly how?

Meanwhile, maybe I should invest in health insurance companies. They seem to be the only segment of the industry that's not raising hell. Gee, I wonder why?

- OS

[Smith]

Maybe. I'm all for the individual and states' rights aspect of the idea.

But in an extended societal sense, it also promotes NOT having health insurance at all, and that is good exactly how?

Meanwhile, maybe I should invest in health insurance companies. They seem to be the only segment of the industry that's not raising hell. Gee, I wonder why?

- OS

Seemed to work extremely well up until the last 50 years. So what happened? Government started getting involved and now we are here. The problem is the solution is the problem is the solution.

If you invest in insurance companies, just make sure you get out before they disappear. Just give it time.

[Oh Shoot]

Seemed to work extremely well up until the last 50 years. So what happened? Government started getting involved and now we are here. The problem is the solution is the problem is the solution.

If you invest in insurance companies, just make sure you get out before they disappear. Just give it time.

Hey, you could be right, I dunno.

I started another thread to quit diverting this one. Maybe you should duplicate your point over there, too to get it rolling:

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/national-politics-legislation/37351-make-some-invest-health-care.html

- OS

[Volzfan]

Done

[jtluttrell]

Just so happened to read this today:

Grievances cannot be redressed unless they are known; and they cannot be known but through complaints and petitions. If these are deemed affronts, and the messengers punished as offenders, who will henceforth send petitions? And who will deliver them?

It has been thought a dangerous thing in any state to stop up the vent of griefs. Wise governments have therefore generally received petitions with some indulgence, even when but slightly founded. Those who think themselves injured by their rulers are sometimes, by a mild and prudent answer, convinced of their error. But where complaining is a crime, hope becomes despair. -Ben Franklin

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[Guest jackdm3]

It's just a little ole petition. Petitions never hurt no one!

[ShamGlock]

done

[Guest Dragonman]

How about TN refusing to remit federal taxes on medical items and whatnot produced in the state that the law requires?

Something that would make the fur fly right now?

- OS

Ya remember back when the Feds wanted Tennessee to lower their BAC from .1 to .08 and Tennessee told them to stuff it? The govt. came back with the fact that they would withhold federal highway funding if they didn't comply. Tennessees' BAC level is now .08. Unfortunately politics is all about money.

[Guest oldsmobile98]

Done.

[USMCJG]

Done.

[huntingman]

Done, Thanks for posting.

[leroy]

Just done!

Leroy

[Krull]

Signed.

[Guest davidz71]

Signed.

Same here.

[dubya3488]

Done.