Cair steps in it again!

[towerclimber37]

You guys should get a kick out of this one.

I hope he wins.

http://www.savage-productions.com/Savage_CAIR_suit.html

[Mike.357]

I wish CAIR would just disappear. Bunch of loonies in my opinion. It drives me crazy when people like this are in our country and want to use our freedoms to end our freedoms.

Not to hijack a thread, but rather expand upon it now. With 2A and all, there is always speculation as to what the framers meant by their words. So lets expand on that principle now.

Did the framers, with their freedom of religion convictions forsee these freedoms applying to non-christian religions? Could they even imagine non-christian religions being here? Could they have comprehended how non-christian religions would impact this country?

[Im Neero]

I think the 1st amendment was written to protect non-Christian religions. The founding fathers were not all Christians, but they all realized that the government has no place deciding which religion is correct. A man's faith is something of his own, and Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, etc... should make no difference in one's inherent rights.

That being said, everyone has the right to choose their own way as long as it doesn't harm others or keep them from pursuing their own happiness, but when someone's "religion" requires them to impose their beliefs onto others, sometimes violently, then that is wrong no matter what god you believe in.

[Mike.357]

The founding fathers were not all Christians,

what were they?

[Guest CrazyLincoln]

Witches Don't go into the forest btw..........

[towerclimber37]

hahahaha

well some were calvinists, some were protestants...some were catholic..but back then, one to the other was alien.

just like the Koran speaks about Jesus and God, they have different beliefs.

it doesn't really matter...Neero is correct. The preambles of the constitution outline what we have the ability to do, should we choose..the articles of the constitution set out the rules of how we can do it without hurting others.

[Im Neero]

Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were Deists.

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

This is from the Treaty of Peace and Friendship that the US adopted in 1797 with Tripoli under John Adams' presidency:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Thomas Paine spent much of his time writing pamphlets criticizing the Christian religion, and many of the "Christian" founding fathers were not particularly active. George Washington never took communion, and eventually started skipping church altogether on the days that it was offered.