Bowhunting and HCP Holders

[memphismason]

NASHVILLE - Handgun permit holders in Tennessee would be able to carry their weapons while bowhunting deer under legislation headed to the governor for his consideration.

The measure passed the Senate 30-1 today after being approved in the House 85-3 earlier in the week.

The proposal would allow a person to carry the weapon "during the archery-only deer season."

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Mike Turner of Nashville says he proposed the legislation after a constituent was robbed in a parking lot after deer hunting. Hunters are prohibited from using the gun on the deer.

However, Democratic Sen. Beverly Marrero of Memphis says she doesn't understand why guns are needed when hunters "already have a bow and arrow."

Gov. Phil Bredesen is expected to review the measure once it reaches his desk

[memphismason]

I heard this on the news this morning while I was getting ready to go to work.

As always an idiot we put in office from Memphis had a stupid remark. When is this city going to learn.

Any who, if this is signed I will be happy.

[inspecting1]

NASHVILLE - Handgun permit holders in Tennessee would be able to carry their weapons while bowhunting deer under legislation headed to the governor for his consideration.

The measure passed the Senate 30-1 today after being approved in the House 85-3 earlier in the week.

The proposal would allow a person to carry the weapon "during the archery-only deer season."

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Mike Turner of Nashville says he proposed the legislation after a constituent was robbed in a parking lot after deer hunting. Hunters are prohibited from using the gun on the deer.

However, Democratic Sen. Beverly Marrero of Memphis says she doesn't understand why guns are needed when hunters "already have a bow and arrow."

Gov. Phil Bredesen is expected to review the measure once it reaches his desk

She has never bailed out of the boat before daylight only to run into a pack of wild hogs. Imagine trying to climb a tree after having 4-5 hogs of unknown size grunting at you just outside of your headlight range and all you have is a bow. I considered knocking an arrow but figured I was better off using it as a club and running if it would have came to that. SOme people just do not get it. You never know what you will run into in the woods by yourself. Wild hogs, panther, bears, zombies, or crazies

[mikegideon]

However, Democratic Sen. Beverly Marrero of Memphis says she doesn't understand why guns are needed when hunters "already have a bow and arrow."

I know you guys aren't fond if Bill Maher, but I'm stealing one of his quotes... "This woman is a Category 5 Moron".

[peejman]

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However, Democratic Sen. Beverly Marrero of Memphis says she doesn't understand why guns are needed when hunters "already have a bow and arrow."

She's never been stalked by a pack of coyotes while walking to her tree stand by moonlight at 4am while carrying only a bow.

That happened to a friend a couple years ago. He said he could hear them growling and walking through the leaves... said he's never been so scared. He made it up his stand, waited until daylight, climbed back down, drove straight to the gun store and bought a pistol. He's carried it while bow hunting ever since. The game wardens he's met have never said a word about it.

[DaveS]

Did this not pass last year?

[memphismason]

Did this not pass last year?

What I heard on the new this morning was it was going to be looked at.

Bill OKs handgun carry while bowhunting in TN Knoxville News Sentinel

[KahrMan]

This was passed on June 18 2009

http://state.tn.us/sos/acts/106/pub/pc0606.pdf

Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency - FAQs

May persons possessing handgun carry permits possess their handguns while on WMAs, PHAs, or refuges open to hunter access?

Recent legislative changes provide that individuals who possess a carry permit may possess their handgun while on TWRA wildlife management areas, public hunting areas, or refuges open to hunter access. The handgun may not be used for taking game unless specifically permited by TWRA regulation. This change will now allow those with carry permits to possess their handgun at times when previously it would not have been permissible such as during archery hunting. TWRA will apply this same interpretation to those possessing carry permits while hunting on private lands.

BTW, I got this info from one of Fallguys post from a couple of months ago.

Edited February 25, 2010 by KahrMan

[DaveS]

That's what I thought it said in the regs, but I didn't have time here at work to research it.

[DaveS]

I read the article about it, but they are a day late and dollar short. Wonder what they are reffering to in the article?

[memphismason]

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0770

*HB 0770 by *Turner M ( SB 0842 by *Jackson)

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Handgun Permits - As introduced, authorizes person with handgun permit to carry handgun while big game bowhunting during the archery-only deer season. - Amends TCA Title 39 and Section 70-4-123.

Bill Summary

Summary for *HB 0770/SB 0842

Fiscal Note

FiscalNote for HB0770 / SB0842 filed under HB0770

Votes

House Votes on HB0770

Senate Votes on SB0842

Bill History

Bill History Actions Taken on HB0770Action Date

Transmitted to Governor for his action.02/25/2010

Signed by S. Speaker02/25/2010

Enrolled; ready for sig. of H. Speaker.02/25/2010

Enrolled; ready for sig. of H. Speaker.02/24/2010

Passed S., Ayes 30, Nays 102/24/2010

S. Subst. HB for comp. SB.02/24/2010

Rcvd. from H., P1C.02/24/2010

Engrossed; ready for transmission to Sen.02/22/2010

Passed H., as am., Ayes 85, Nays 3, PNV 602/22/2010

H. adopted am.(Amendment 1 of 0 - HA0919)02/22/2010

Placed on Regular Calendar for 2/22/2010 02/18/2010

Placed on cal. Calendar & Rules Committee for 02/18/2010 02/17/2010

Rec. For Pass. ref. to: Calendar & Rules Committee02/16/2010

Placed on cal. Judiciary Committee for 02/16/2010 02/10/2010

Action Def. in Judiciary Committee to last calendar 04/08/2009

Placed on cal. Judiciary Committee for 04/08/2009 04/01/2009

Rec. For Pass. by s/c ref. to Judiciary Committee 04/01/2009

Placed on s/c cal Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD for 04/01/2009 03/25/2009

Assigned to s/c Criminal Practice and Procedure of JUD02/18/2009P2C, ref. to Judiciary02/18/2009

Intro., P1C.02/12/2009Filed for intro.02/11/2009

Actions Taken on SB0842Action DateComp. HB Subst (sends SB to dead bill file)02/24/2010

Placed on Sen. Regular Calendar (1) cal. for 02/24/2010 02/22/2010

Rec. For Pass. ref. to: S. Cal. Comm.02/16/2010

Placed on S. Jud Comm. cal. for 02/16/2010 02/12/2010

P2C, ref. to S. Jud Comm.02/18/2009

Intro., P1C.02/12/2009

Filed for intro.02/11/2009

Edited February 25, 2010 by memphismason

[Guest walkingdeadman]

What an idiot. Another reason to hate all Memphis politicians. Well almost all of them.

Good post Jason. Great read.

Edited February 28, 2010 by walkingdeadman

[Guest musiccitymadman]

dosent this only apply to WMA and state public hunting areas? Not Private land hunting?

[Guest musiccitymadman]

And remember if you carry your firearm do not use it to shoot a snake. It's illegal to kill snakes in Tn.

In Tennessee, ihttp://www.tennsnakes.org/t is illegal to harm, kill, remove from the wild, or possess native snakes taken from the wild without the proper permits.

Please help the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA) to protect our native snakes. Do not remove snakes from the wild or release snakes that

[memphismason]

Bill Summary

*HB 0770 by *Turner M, Maggart, Swafford, White, Todd. (SB 0842 by *Jackson, Crowe, Gresham, Tracy.)

Handgun Permits - As introduced, authorizes person with handgun permit to carry handgun while big game bowhunting during the archery-only deer season. - Amends TCA Title 39 and Section 70-4-123.

Fiscal Summary

Decrease State Revenue - Not Significant Decrease State Expenditures - Not Significant Decrease Local Revenue - Not Significant Decrease Local Expenditures - Not Significant

Bill Summary

ON FEBRUARY 22, 2010, THE HOUSE ADOPTED AMENDMENT #1 AND PASSED HOUSE BILL 770, AS AMENDED.

AMENDMENT #1 changes this bill's effective date from July 1, 2009, to July 1, 2010.

[DaveS]

Now I'm really confused. How do you change a law's effective date from July/09 to July/10, after it has been in effect and people following it? Something is not right here.

[memphismason]

I am confused too.

[Guest walkingdeadman]

Yeah I agree. This got way off track.