Oakland Ca. ammo fingerprint law

[Guest faust921]

To - jquan@oaklandnet.com

Oakland has joined an alliance of other cities in tightening its gun laws after a unanimous vote by the city council. This gun law is similar to what is already on the books in Richmond, Berkeley and San Francisco. It dictates that those who buy bullets would have to provide thumbprints. "What this does is tightens up the records," said Councilmember Jean Quan. "It requires sales of ammunition to have the same kinds of records that we have in the sale of a gun." "It will require a fingerprint when you buy ammunition," said Quan. "It would also require a new store that would like to sell ammunition to store it in a safe place, and to certify and clear its staff for criminal records."

Read About It: KCBS (San Francisco, Calif.)

Councilmember Jean Quan

City of Oakland

The Peoples Republic of California

jquan@oaklandnet.com

Councelmember Quan,

It never fails to amaze me how ignorant the typical liberal politician is about guns and ammunition. The ignorance that leads to the idea that there is some difference between a bullet fired from a simple bolt action rifle and one fired from a so called "assault rifle". The ignorance that leads to a fear of guns and not the people who use them illegally. The ignorance that leads to a belief that despite all of the poorly conceived laws that have failed to stem drug trade violence and criminal behavior, just one more anti gun law will make the utopia that never has and never will exist.

Ms. Quan, Your ancestors have never successfully fought off a foreign occupier in order to establish a democracy so I can't expect you to be able to embrace the deeply held American value of firearm ownership. Before you call me a racist, answer this question. How racist is a law that deprives the poorest, least mobile, and most vulnerable segment of our society the right to defend itself? The gangs will buy ammo out of state and the wealthy and educated will import reloading equipment and supplies on the internet. Your transparent attempt to put gun stores out of business with absurd legislation is out of phase with an internet connected world.

Passing this law means that you are pandering to the stupid people who elected you, or you are completely void of any knowledge concerning guns and ammunition. In either case you are a threat to democratic ideals and unfit to lead in any public capacity. Oakland, California is a sewer and you are it's Queen. You deserve each other.

Cxxxxxxxxx Cxxxxxxx

Chattanooga, Tennessee

[mikegideon]

Well put. Short read... F...ing idiots

[Guest HexHead]

It's going to be a state law come next February. They're just jumping the gun a bit.

[G27]

We have our own issues to deal with here in TN - no state is perfect. But we're a heck of a lot closer to a 'free state' than many and I can't ever see leaving for that reason alone...

[Alpha7]

That and their 10 day waiting periods. Almost like living in a communist state huh?

[SHbicycle]

Cxxxxxxxxx Cxxxxxxx

Chattanooga, Tennessee

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Man I wish I would have stayed in skool!<o></o><o>

Oh by the way I have to go to Oakland on the 12th anyone need ammo.

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Edited February 5, 2010 by SHbicycle

[Guest TurboniumOxide]

Mr. Cxxxxxxxxx Cxxxxxxx is obviously from some eastern bloc country. Like he knows anything.

[Guest jackdm3]

I thought it was Greek.

[Guest mustangdave]

Don't be fooled...these "liberals" know EXACTLY what they're doing...before you know it...the entire San Francisco Bay Area will be a GUN FREE zone

[Alpha7]

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Man I wish I would have stayed in skool!<O></O><O>

Oh by the way I have to go to Oakland on the 12th anyone need ammo.

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You say it just like it is spelled.

Jean (gene) quan (kwan)

Quan would be asian

As far as the

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I reckon that is italian

[Alpha7]

Also,

Why does someone in chattanooga the land of the free care about what is happening in communist oakland?

[G27]

Why does someone in chattanooga the land of the free care about what is happening in communist oakland?

While I initially shared your sentiment, with the over-reaching federal powers we see nowadays, what happens in other states can affect us at some point down the road.

IOW, if we ignore what happens in a majority of other states, we may wake up to see a federal law / ruling that makes life very difficult for us

[Alpha7]

While I initially shared your sentiment, with the over-reaching federal powers we see nowadays, what happens in other states can affect us at some point down the road.

IOW, if we ignore what happens in a majority of other states, we may wake up to see a federal law / ruling that makes life very difficult for us

I do agree with that statement some what. However, do I think TN will ever have a 10 day waiting period for guns? No, do I think they will ever finger print for ammo purchases? No, for the same reason they no longer require the thumb print for a firearm here. Because 98% of the prints used with the ink and cards were illegible.

[Guest jackdm3]

Yeah, but then they'll require FFLs to use a thumb scanner and AWWWW $hI+ !!!

[Alpha7]

Yeah, but then they'll require FFLs to use a thumb scanner and AWWWW $hI+ !!!

I hope not.

I asked the dude when I bought my springfield why they no longer did the thumb prints and he told me about the illegibility issue.

[Guest jackdm3]

Knowing that, on my next purchase I'll have to make it as ugly as when I cash other's checks.