DEPORT HER TO AMERICA

[Guest trigem]

......DEPORT HER TO AMERICA !

True? who knows, fun read anyway!

The Rambo Granny of Melbourne , Australia

Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down... And shot off their testicles.

The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -and, when she found them,

she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne police investigator Evan Delp.

Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk

and told him as calm as could be: 'Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.'

Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the hotel room where he and former prison cell mate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up..

The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. 'The one guy, Thomas, didn't lose his manhood,

'but the doctor I talked to said he won't be using it the way he used to,' Detective Delp told reporters. 'Both men are still in pretty bad shape, 'but I think they're just happy to be alive after what they've been through.'

The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of

town bordering on skid row.. 'When I saw the look on my Debbie's face that night in

the hospital, 'I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself ''cause I figured

the Law would go easy on them,' recalled the retired library worker.. 'And I wasn't scared of them, either - because I've got me a gun and I've been shootin' all my life. 'And I wasn't

dumb enough to turn it in when the law changed about owning one.'

So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's description of the sickos,

tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the

crime took place till she spotted the ill-fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel. 'I knew it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em anyway' and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them,' the oldster recalled...

'So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door, 'and the

minute the big one opened the door, I shot 'em right square between the legs,'right where it would really hurt 'em most, you know. 'Then I went in and shot the other one 'as he backed up pleading to me to spare him.' Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in..'

Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with the vigilante granny. 'What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, but it is difficult to throw an

81-year-old woman in prison,' Det. Delp said, 'especially when 3 million people in the

city want to nominate her for Mayor.'

DEPORT HER TO AMERICA - WE NEED HER!

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.......Australian Gun Law Update

Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....

From: Ed Chenel , A police officer in Australia

Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down Under.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to

surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government,

a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,

Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that

while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals

still possess their guns!)

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery

with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months,

since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while

the resident is at home.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such

monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns..'

You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members

of the State Assembly disseminating this information.

The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and

property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note Americans, before it's too late!

Will you be one of the sheep to turn yours in? WHY? You will need it.

DO YOU THINK THE CRIMINALS ARE GOING TO TURN IN THEIR GUNS???

THIS WILL HAPPEN IN AMERICA TOO, IF THEY TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS!!

IF YOU DO NOTHING, THIS WILL HAPPEN HERE!!

Edited December 30, 2009 by trigem

[jtluttrell]

Justice served ice cold.

[Guest ScottD]

Aparently made up, and old.

snopes.com: Grambo

[Smith]

While an awesome story Snopes says no. snopes.com: Grambo

Dang, too slow!

[Guest clownsdd]

Me too. Myth debunked!

[Mike.357]

Aparently made up, and old.

snopes.com: Grambo

While an awesome story Snopes says no. snopes.com: Grambo

Dang, too slow!

Killjoys

[Volzfan]

No reason to let the facts get in the way of a good story!

[Guest trigem]

AFA response to Snopes.com

An urban legends reporting website named www.Snopes.com has labeled as “False†the Action Alert sent by American Family Association on June 14, 2007 titled, “A bill in Congress makes it a crime for pastors and churches to speak against homosexuality.â€

American Family Association remains steadfast in our claim that if this bill passes, we are confident that liberal judges will rush to make it a federal crime to publicly criticize the homosexual lifestyle.

We remain adamantly opposed to this dangerous legislation that could lay the groundwork for persecution of Christians in America. But even more chilling is the fact that S. 1105 and H.R.1592 pave the way to religious persecution – with “hate crimes†laws inevitably leading to “hate speech†laws targeted specifically at Christians and other faith groups who hold traditional beliefs on homosexuality.

Can’t happen, you say? In Canada, one cannot legally criticize homosexuality in public. Because of a “hate crimes†law that includes sexual orientation, even the quoting of Scriptures that condemn homosexuality can be illegal.

Because of “hate crimes†legislation in Sweden, a pastor was sentenced to 30 days in jail for preaching a sermon in which he said homosexuality is wrong.

Snopes.com is reporting that the claims of AFA Action Alert, “as well as the Action Alert’s bulleted references to court cases, news items, and current legislation, are gross and misleading distortions of information.â€

AFA Action Alert bullet:

• A California lawsuit which is headed to the U.S. Supreme Court would make the use of the words “natural family,†“marriage†and “union of a man and a woman†a “hate speech†crime in government workplaces. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has already ruled in favor of the plaintiffs!
  

Snopes.com:

The lawsuit had nothing to do with classifying certain words or phrases as “hate speech†or establishing their usage as a “crime.â€

AFA response to Snopes:

AFA took this information directly from a Washington Times article dated June 11, 2007 titled, "

Suit to decide workplace 'hate speech'

." The first line of the article reads as follows, “The words ‘natural family,’ ‘marriage’ and ‘union of a man and a woman’ can be punished as ‘hate speech’ in government workplaces, according to a lawsuit that is being appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.â€

AFA Action Alert bullet:

• CNN and The Washington Post both reported that General Peter Pace, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was fired because he publicly expressed moral opposition to homosexual behavior.
  

Snopes.com:

The Washington Post’s front-page coverage of the announcement that Marine Gen. Peter Pace would be stepping down as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff when his term expired in September did not claim that Pace was “fired because of his publicly expressed moral opposition to homosexual behavior.†The Post’s 9 June 2007 article on the subject mentioned in passing, in its 18th paragraph, that some congressional staffers ‘said Pace’s recent comments to reporters at the Chicago Tribune about the military’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy, in which he said homosexuality was immoral, would also be a distracting issue at his confirmation hearing.†(The primary reason expressed in the article for Pace’s dismissal was “concern from both parties that Pace’s confirmation hearing could evoke bitter debate about Iraq war policy.â€)

AFA response to Snopes:

The Washington Post and CNN did both cite sources inside their respective reports that Pace’s comments about homosexuality did play – to what degree is unknown -- a role in his not being rehired as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Although AFA believes that this was the case (that his views were held against him),

we stated it as a matter of fact when it should have been stated as a matter of opinion.

However, our opinion is based on what we have seen happen in the past to high profile individuals who criticize homosexual behavior.

AFA Action Alert bullet:

• A bill now before Congress (H.R.1592 / S.1105) would criminalize negative comments concerning homosexuality, such as calling the practice of homosexuality a sin from the pulpit, a "hate crime" punishable by a hefty fine and time in prison. This dangerous legislation would take away our freedom of speech and our freedom of religion.
  

Snopes.com:

The text of the bill [s.1105 and H.R. 1592] specifically addresses “willfully caus[ing] bodily injury to any person†(as well as attempts to cause bodily injury to any personâ€) because of “actual or perceived … gender, sexual orientation, [or] gender identity.†The bill does

not

“criminalize negative comments concerning homosexuality,†nor would it make “calling the practice of homosexuality a sin from the pulpit a ‘hate crime’.†The bill has nothing to do with the issue of speech; it only prescribes criminal penalties for the willful infliction of

bodily injury

on others.

AFA response to Snopes:

American Family Association became concerned about the imminent threat to free speech during the Judiciary Committee hearings about H.R.1592. During the hearings Representative Gohmert directed the following question to Representative Davis (the sponsor of Section 8 – H.R.1592): “If a minister preaches that sexual relations outside of marriage of a man and woman is wrong, and somebody within that congregation goes out and does an act of violence, and that person says that that minister counseled or induced him through the sermon to commit the act, are you saying under your amendment that in no way could that ever be introduced against the minister?†Representative Davis answered, “No.†In other words, it could be introduced in action against the minister.

Click here

to read this section of the Judiciary Committee hearing.

For a legal analysis of Section 8 – H.R.1592 from the Alliance Defense Fund, click here. For the Alliance Defense Fund’s summary of the bill, click here.

Obviously, we have many concerns with a bill like this – including the fact that it is constitutionally suspect, unfair, dangerous, indefinable, unnecessary and un-American.

Laws in civilized nations have always been designed to punish conduct, not thought. The “hate crimes†bill is not designed to aid in crime fighting. Wrong thoughts are the sole aim of this dangerous legislation.

.American Family Association – Tupelo, MS 38803

www.afa.net

[Guest Buzz87]

k.I get it.You hate snopes.Really,I don't use it.

[Guest goomba]

I mentioned this story to Oleg Volk a few months back, he told that it has pretty much been confirmed as a false story. I'll take his word that it is fake. however, I must say that it is a good story.

[Guest clownsdd]

No offense to anyone, but just what do gays have to do with a fake granny posting?

[Guest Buzz87]

No offense to anyone, but just what do gays have to do with a fake granny posting?

[Smith]

No offense to anyone, but just what do gays have to do with a fake granny posting?

It shows they have a pretty strong bias on certain issues. When you claim to be only about factual info yet spin certain info towards a particular POV it undermines your credibility on every topic. The point was not about the topics but the reliability of the info.

[Guest Buzz87]

I have said it twice, third time is a charm. I do not and never have used Snopes.

[Smith]

I have said it twice, third time is a charm. I do not and never have used Snopes.

I do but like everything on the internet I take it with a grain, or bag, or salt.

[Volzfan]

I do use Snopes but not exclusively. Try some of these too. I try to use these and if there are others that you use please post them.

www.factcheck.org

www.urbanlegends.about.com

www.scambusters.org

www.library.jhu.edu/researchhelp/general/evaluating/

Is there a Sticky here on TGO for research sites. If not maybe there should be.

[Guest clownsdd]

It shows they have a pretty strong bias on certain issues. When you claim to be only about factual info yet spin certain info towards a particular POV it undermines your credibility on every topic. The point was not about the topics but the reliability of the info.

You can say that about Republikan and Demokrats, and just about any other organization you want to name.

[TNblues]

Didn't know about the gun ban in Aus. Dang Sux to live Down Under.