Ever Traded Out Of State

[krunchnik]

Like the question mark asks,have any of you fellas ever traded a firearm with someone from a different state,like even trades,no cash involved,if so how was the paperwork involved,was it complicated and how would a person make sure they werent getting ripped off.Any opinions or facts are appreciated.

[56FordGuy]

Transfers of a firearm, regardless of how it's paid or traded for, must go through an FFL in the receiving party's state if you are not both residents of the same state.

For example, if you traded guns with a Kentucky resident, the gun you give him would have to be transferred to him by an FFL holder in Kentucky. Likewise, the gun he gives you will have to be transferred to you by an FFL holder in Tennessee.

As an afterthought, I'm assuming you're talking about a face to face type of deal. If you're trading with someone you won't be meeting, you'll have to ship the gun to his FFL.

Edited December 21, 2009 by 56FordGuy

[SavageSig]

Yes, I have traded via internet. We were both wary, but after enough communication we felt comfortable enough to do the trade.

Of course, I insisted that he sent first. When I went to pick it up, I took the pistol I was trading with me. I did a visual inspection of what he sent me and then I sent him his half of the bargain. All in all, worked out fine. Phil at Bellshire Hardware only charged me 1 background check fee to send and receive, so I saved a little doing that. He was also very helpful with the legalities of the situation.

[mdmoseley]

I didnt trade but I did buy one FTF from a guy in Michigan. If it's a private sale you just have to see what the local laws are for the transaction. Michigan requires a record of the sale so we had to fill that out. I would say a trade would be the same as a sale. Also going through an FFL is not required for private sale FTF.

[Oh Shoot]

... Also going through an FFL is not required for private sale FTF.

It is, if you are not residents of the same state.

Not sure if technically it's legal if you ARE residents of the same state but transaction occurs OUTSIDE of that state.

- OS

[1gewehr]

ALL transfers that cross a state line are subject to Federal Law, and MUST be received by a licensee.

You do not need to have a dealer ship it, but the person who receives the firearm when it crosses a state line MUST have a license.

That said, C&R holders routinely trade via internet. Sometimes money is involved, sometimes not. This is where reputation matters. If they have a good reputation on the board, or can point to other references, like eBay, then I usually don't worry about it. This is one of those times where you trust your instincts. If you feel uncomfortable, don't do it.

[Guest bkelm18]

I have traded out of state. Went smoothly. As has been said, it if crosses state lines, it MUST go through an FFL.

[Guest HexHead]

I almost traded a 1911 with a buddy of mine in VA for his HK45. I was going to ship it to his FFL and he was going to ship to mine. Easy peasy.

Ended up trading it locally for a Python instead.

[MadMarx]

I was under the impression I could buy a long gun from some out of state and not go through an FFL, but a pistol had to. I live in Chattanooga, and I thought I could go to a gun show in Dalton and buy a rifle or shotgun from an individual. That is not the case? I have not done it, but I have seen some things I wanted to buy at shows out of state.

Possibly found an answer. It appears I can buy a rifle from a ffl out of state, but not a pistol unless it is shipped to a ffl in my state and I get it there. That is pretty stupid.

Edited December 21, 2009 by MadMarx
Further research on my part

[Guest HexHead]

Possibly found an answer. It appears I can buy a rifle from a ffl out of state, but not a pistol unless it is shipped to a ffl in my state and I get it there. That is pretty stupid.

The reason for that is to accommodate hunters and sport shooters that may need to buy a replacement firearm to continue their event.

You have to remember why long guns were even included in the NICS in the first place. It was a compromise agreement to do away with the waiting periods for handguns.

Some states apparently didn't get the memo.

[DaveTN]

As everyone has already stated it has to go through an FFL. With the fees and shipping I have never needed to trade anything I couldn’t trade right here and skip the extra charges. Transfer fees and shipping can be $100. Unless you are dealing in collectables; I can’t see where you couldn’t make the deal locally.

You have no protection from getting ripped off, other than what the person tells you and what other people say about that person. You pay your dealer the transfer fees and whatever is in the box is what you get.

[krunchnik]

Yeh,a person on another forum saw a picture of my Kimber TLE/RL II and made me an offer,I of coarse said nay to the trade.I really dont want to go thru all the red tape to possibly receive something in terrible shape,thats a good point,that you get whats in the box.Not a good idea to trade for something a person cant inspect close up and personal.