Mosque Prayer Session Including The Enlightened One

[Guest KarlS]

This is OUR President at a MOSQUE prayer session LAST WEEK AT THE WHITE HOUSE, on the site where the INAUGURATION is held every 4 years! He canceled OUR CHRISTIAN "NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER".

For Obama to continue as our president is an INSULT TO OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!

[Guest bkelm18]

I'm sorry, it's entirely possible that I missed it, but could you point me to the part of the constitution that says our President HAS to be Christian? Also, correct me if I'm mistaken, and many times I am, but wasn't our country partly founded on religious freedoms? I guess we only like freedoms when it's convenient to us. Am I right?

[Guest SUNTZU]

I'd hate to be a secret service agent that had to run through broken glass in just my socks.

[strickj]

I'm sorry, it's entirely possible that I missed it, but could you point me to the part of the constitution that says our President HAS to be Christian? Also, correct me if I'm mistaken, and many times I am, but wasn't our country partly founded on religious freedoms? I guess we only like freedoms when it's convenient to us. Am I right?

I agree.

If you ask me, this would make our founding fathers proud to know that we have a country where anyone may become POTUS.

Regardless of religious or racial affiliations.

It's only an insult to our founding fathers if the Presidency is reduced to one specific religion.

[Guest Muttling]

With all the Photoshopped stuff that is out there, do you have a link to a report that authenticates this photo? Something better than a photobucket link.

[brooksjr]

This is OUR President at a MOSQUE prayer session LAST WEEK AT THE WHITE HOUSE, on the site where the INAUGURATION is held every 4 years! He canceled OUR CHRISTIAN "NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER".

For Obama to continue as our president is an INSULT TO OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!

I completely agree with you. I could care less what religion our president is but to not take part in a Christian prayer day when he is supposedly Christian but he will take part in this is total BS. Like I've said before I could care less if he worships what he flushes down the toilet but at least be honest about it

Edit: even though this has been proven total bs by other members i stand by what i said.

Edited December 12, 2009 by brooksjr

[Guest clownsdd]

How 'bout posting some credible documentation. I don't see anything that resembles the White House in the background, nor have I seen anything about canceling the national day of prayer. Why would it have to be a christian day of prayer?

[Guest KarlS]

With all the Photoshopped stuff that is out there, do you have a link to a report that authenticates this photo? Something better than a photobucket link.

SodaHead.com - Oh, yes, Obama prays all right:

Sorry I forgot the link to begin with.

No Nobody missed that part of the constitution. We just missed the complete part of our sitting Prersident's life from birth until inauguration. Look if this guy had been honest and up front with the citizens about his past, present, who he associated with and whatever else we're missing maybe he wouldn't be in office! If you have anything you'd like to be proud of Obama for then so be it. I don't.

[E4 No More]

I'm sorry, it's entirely possible that I missed it, but could you point me to the part of the constitution that says our President HAS to be Christian? Also, correct me if I'm mistaken, and many times I am, but wasn't our country partly founded on religious freedoms? I guess we only like freedoms when it's convenient to us. Am I right?

I mostly agree: however, I don't think that there were satanists back then.

[Guest clownsdd]

Not trying to antagonize, but the problem with Satanists aside from the fact that their views are different from yours? Anything detrimental to or in conflict with the Constitution?

[E4 No More]

The point that I was trying to make was that there was no way for our founding fathers to anticipate what was to come along 200 years later. The argument back then was how one worshipped the Christian God or not at all; not freedom to worship Satan. I way I read The Constitution is that the government was not to establish/mandate a religion like the Catholic Church or the Church of England. I think that if they envisioned people worshipping Satan in this country - or the attacks on the 2A because of “militia” for that matter - they would have worded the applicable amendments differently.

[Guest SUNTZU]

I like the Constitution the way it is. Its in English, I don't need an interpretation. My two cents.

[Oh Shoot]

This is OUR President at a MOSQUE prayer session LAST WEEK AT THE WHITE HOUSE, on the site where the INAUGURATION is held every 4 years! He canceled OUR CHRISTIAN "NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER".

For Obama to continue as our president is an INSULT TO OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!

For C'Sakes, man.

This is from April of this year in freaking Istanbul, where O visited a mosque with the Turkish prime minister.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30115213/displaymode/1168/rstry/30111857/rpage/1/

It's going to be difficult to take any of your posts very seriously after this one.

The National Day of Prayer is the first Thursday in May, and has not been canceled (or much observed either).

Due to controversy and lawsuits, there was no public proclamation of it this year, but neither was it "canceled".

Of course, I know it's difficult for some to actually discount information from a source as esteemed as SodaHead.com, which seems to have "broken" this "story".

- OS

Edited December 12, 2009 by OhShoot
add'l info re Nat'l Day of Prayer

[E4 No More]

I like the Constitution the way it is. Its in English, I don't need an interpretation. My two cents.

I don't. I don't like rags such as Hustler and The National Enquirer treated as if they were newspapers, or constantly fighting to protect my 2A rights.

[Guest clownsdd]

The point that I was trying to make was that there was no way for our founding fathers to anticipate what was to come along 200 years later. The argument back then was how one worshipped the Christian God or not at all; not freedom to worship Satan. I way I read The Constitution is that the government was not to establish/mandate a religion like the Catholic Church or the Church of England. I think that if they envisioned people worshipping Satan in this country - or the attacks on the 2A because of “militia†for that matter - they would have worded the applicable amendments differently.

They did not differentiate religious affiliations simply because they realized that the freedom to worship as one believed is a right, not to be tramped on. Remember, the founding fathers had the Salem Witch Trials (1692) to look back upon and nothing was mentioned about witches beliefs specifically. They truly meant that, the right to worship (and believe) is up to the individual, not the government regardless if they worship a pig, individual, dog, star, cat, etc.

[Guest jackdm3]

I'm late to the party, but the CLOWNMAN said it.

[BigPoppa]

For C'Sakes, man.

This is from April of this year in freaking Istanbul, where O visited a mosque with the Turkish prime minister.

Image: US President Obama visits the Blue Mosque - Photos, Pictures, Images - msnbc.com

It's going to be difficult to take any of your posts very seriously after this one.

The National Day of Prayer is the first Thursday in May, and has not been canceled (or much observed either).

Due to controversy and lawsuits, there was no public proclamation of it this year, but neither was it "canceled".

Of course, I know it's difficult for some to actually discount information from a source as esteemed as SodaHead.com, which seems to have "broken" this "story".

- OS

Ok.....thanks OS for some clarity.

Now that the OP, photo, and source have been cleared up as misinformation, hyperbole, and perhaps even fiction, the question now seems to be "Can a Muslim be President of the United States ?"

We can even expand that to substitute "Satanist", "Atheist", "Agnostic", "Druid", "Pagan", et al. etc. In 1960, "Catholic" was the label applied with much hand wringing in some circles.

The answer, clearly, is yes. Would I, personally, vote for an admitted, practicing Muslim for President ? I would struggle with it, and I am man enough to admit that.

But that would be my personal religious views and political ideology (prejudice maybe even) and not anything on Constitutional grounds.

Here's the oath of office that the POTUS takes:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The man or woman taking this oath swears allegiance to the Office and to the Constitution, not a faith, religion, region, or political party.

[Guest clownsdd]

+10 BP well put

[E4 No More]

They did not differentiate religious affiliations simply because they realized that the freedom to worship as one believed is a right, not to be tramped on. Remember, the founding fathers had the Salem Witch Trials (1692) to look back upon and nothing was mentioned about witches beliefs specifically. They truly meant that, the right to worship (and believe) is up to the individual, not the government regardless if they worship a pig, individual, dog, star, cat, etc.

I disagree. Too many other examples exist that the salem witch trials.

[E4 No More]

I'm late to the party, but the CLOWNMAN said it.

Consider the treatment of Catholics when they came over.

[Guest clownsdd]

Irish, Jews, Catholics, Blacks etc, you can put all the examples you want, but the original intent was Freedom from Religous Persecution regardless of how you look at it. Like on another post, the gun laws stem from a desire to keep the guns out of the hands of blacks, right no, overturned, yes, but still haunting us.

The great thing about this country is that any person willing to work for it can be and do anything lawfully they want to as long as they are will to work and put the effort into it.

Downside is that they also have the right to have stupid written on their forehead and there are more out there like that than of the previous.

[Guest Muttling]

SodaHead.com - Oh, yes, Obama prays all right:

Sorry I forgot the link to begin with.

Sodahead.com???????

Your original post claims that this happened last week, but your link provides an October report from a tabloid as verification. Did this happen last week or have you lied to us????

What exact DAY did it happen on???

Why hasn't Rush or Fox or any other non-tabloid media jumped on it? Rush and Fox would have a field day with this if it were true, yet you claim it happened back in October...or was it last week??? It's so hard to figure out from your postings of the "truth".

[Oh Shoot]

Sodahead.com???????

Your original post claims that this happened last week, but your link provides an October report from a tabloid as verification. Did this happen last week or have you lied to us????

What exact DAY did it happen on???

Why hasn't Rush or Fox or any other non-tabloid media jumped on it? Rush and Fox would have a field day with this if it were true, yet you claim it happened back in October...or was it last week??? It's so hard to figure out from your postings of the "truth".

Nothing happened when or as reported, by either KarlS or that bastion of the free press, SodaHead.

See my earlier post.

- OS

[Mike.357]

It's only an insult to our founding fathers if the Presidency is reduced to one specific religion.

that day is coming unless something is done to stop it. Muslims will not stop until the entire world is under Shariah law.

[tntnixon]

Ok.....thanks OS for some clarity.

Now that the OP, photo, and source have been cleared up as misinformation, hyperbole, and perhaps even fiction, the question now seems to be "Can a Muslim be President of the United States ?"

We can even expand that to substitute "Satanist", "Atheist", "Agnostic", "Druid", "Pagan", et al. etc. In 1960, "Catholic" was the label applied with much hand wringing in some circles.

The answer, clearly, is yes. Would I, personally, vote for an admitted, practicing Muslim for President ? I would struggle with it, and I am man enough to admit that.

But that would be my personal religious views and political ideology (prejudice maybe even) and not anything on Constitutional grounds.

Here's the oath of office that the POTUS takes:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The man or woman taking this oath swears allegiance to the Office and to the Constitution, not a faith, religion, region, or political party.

The problem we face is this: Most people vote for a presidential candidate based on a feeling of whether or not this man/woman represents his/her values and ideals. Since most Americans are either Christian or Jew, they will more than likely vote for a Christian or Jew to represent them at our highest rung on the leadership ladder. There is nothing wrong with that. As a matter of fact, that is the basis of a republic.

Now to Mr. Obama. His situation is far more precarious and potentially malevolent. He ran for president as one man and has behaved, before and after election, quite differently than was portrayed by him and the media. Americans can take most anything if it is "given to them straight". Americans become PO'd big time when they feel they've been lied to or decieved.

That's the situation we face now. Not whether or not a black, a communist, a Muslim, or even a satanist is Constitutionally qualified to be POTUS. They clearly are. The the question most people have is: Are you the man who you and the media told me you are or some sort of Manchurian Candidate?