Transporting

[aquaman67]

I'm gonna ask this here because I don't see a better place.

I'm new to guns and I'm wondering what are the rules for transporting fire arms?

I'm talking about WITHOUT a permit.

Do I have to keep the gun locked in the trunk? What if I don't have a trunk?

What about ammo? Just keep it seperate?

Is it ever ok to keep a loaded gun in a car?

Thanks in advance....

[Oh Shoot]

I'm gonna ask this here because I don't see a better place.

I'm new to guns and I'm wondering what are the rules for transporting fire arms?

I'm talking about WITHOUT a permit.

Do I have to keep the gun locked in the trunk? What if I don't have a trunk?

What about ammo? Just keep it seperate?

Is it ever ok to keep a loaded gun in a car?

Thanks in advance....

Handgun Carry/Self Defense probably get more views.

But it's pretty simple.

Without permit, handgun and long gun same rules.

Must not be "readily available" for use to avoid possible charge of going armed.

Not exactly defined, but obviously,

- UNLOADED

- Gun and ammo separated as far as possible. Best if gun in trunk, ammo somewhere in passenger section.

- If no trunk, separate far as possible, certainly in that case a VERY GOOD idea to put gun(s) in locked case(s) of some sort. Alternately, could lock up ammo but not guns, as would also show "not readily available for use" but the locking up the guns makes situation less scary looking (legal term).

It is of course totally up to LEO who they might charge with going armed, but procedure above will certainly almost negate that happening unless you've done something to really piss off the LEO.

This pretty much applies nationally, as it is legal by federal law to transport your weapons from one place where legal to possess to another place likewise.

Only way to have loaded handgun or long gun in car legally in TN is to have HCP.

SOME states allow loaded guns in cars without permit in various ways.

- OS

[Guest H0TSH0T]

Tennessee

Traveler's checklist:

*Firearms ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license required

*Assault weapon ownership: unrestricted, no permit or license required

*Machine Gun Ownership: no state restrictions, compliance with federal law only

*Firearm law uniformity: preemption law, cities prohibited from creating new laws

*Right of Self-Defense: castle doctrine, right protected by statute

*Open carry: prohibited unless one possesses a permit to carry a handgun

*Concealed carry: licenses granted on a "shall issue" basis; automatic reciprocity for

non-residents with carry permits from any other state

*Vehicle carry and transportation: firearms must be unloaded and in plain view

or secured in commercial gun cases anywhere in the vehicle

Tennessee is slightly more restrictive in its treatment of firearms than some

of its neighbors. The state requires a license to carry a handgun either openly or

concealed. Such permits are issued through the Department of Public Safety to

qualified residents 21 years or older. Tennessee recognizes any valid, out-of-state

permit for carrying a handgun as long as the person possessing the permit does not

reside in Tennessee. In-state residence requires a Tennessee permit. Nonresidents

are not issued permits unless they are regularly employed in the state. Such persons

are then required to obtain Tennessee permits even if they have home state permits

unless their home state has entered into a reciprocity agreement with Tennessee.

Travelers without valid permits are prohibited from carrying handguns with

the "intent to go armed." The actions of the individual and the state of the firearms

which he has in his possession define this condition. If the weapons are loaded and

carried on his person, he is in violation of the law. Thus, vehicle carry of all handguns

should be limited to unloaded firearms which are in plain view or secured in commercial

gun cases. Glove compartment or console box carry is not permitted. "Unloaded"

refers to handguns that are void of any ammunition in the magazines or chambers and

have no loaded magazines nearby. Such weapons may be situated anywhere in the

vehicle except concealed on or about one's person.

Rifles and shotguns carried in a vehicle must remain unloaded and separate

from ammunition regardless of whether a person has a carry permit. Tennessee

only allows handguns to be carried under the authority of a permit. Long guns are

treated the same regardless of a person's permit status.

Tennessee's preemption statute prevents localities from enacting new laws

regulating the possession, ownership or transportation of firearms and ammunition.

Local ordinances passed before 1986 are grandfathered by the law. But most

aspects of licensed handgun carry are regulated exclusively by the state.

[Oh Shoot]

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*Vehicle carry and transportation:firearms must be unloaded and in plain view

or secured in commercial gun cases anywhere in the vehicle

Don't know where that's from, but that is NOT specified in TN statutes, and indeed is a VERY bad idea. (the "plain view" part).

- OS

[Guest H0TSH0T]

Don't know where that's from, but that is NOT specified in TN statutes, and indeed is a VERY bad idea. (the "plain view" part).

- OS

it is in regards to gun racks in trucks still they must be unloaded

[Oh Shoot]

it is in regards to gun racks in trucks still they must be unloaded

I STILL don't know where you got it.

It's wrong.

There is no mention of "plain sight" in the TN weapons statutes.

Indeed, I repeat, it is a VERY BAD IDEA, without a permit, and a pretty bad idea WITH one.

AFAIK, closest TN statues come to mentioning how a weapon may be carried in a vehicle without a permit is:

"39-17-1308. Defenses to unlawful possession or carrying of a weapon. —

(a) It is a defense to the application of § 39-17-1307 if the possession or carrying was:

(1) Of an unloaded rifle, shotgun or handgun not concealed on or about the person and the ammunition for the weapon was not in the immediate vicinity of the person or weapon;"

Another statue addresses carry long gun in car WITH a permit, but again there is no "plain sight" mention.

edit: Mods, might want to move this to the appropriate forum if it turns out to be much of a thread.

- OS

Edited November 16, 2009 by OhShoot

[Guest ArmyVeteran37214]

SOME states allow loaded guns in cars without permit in various ways. - OS

Kentucky is one such state.

[TMMT]

Tennessee is slightly more restrictive in its treatment of firearms than some

of its neighbors.

Thats an understatement...

This state is far from gun friendly.

[aquaman67]

Thanks for the replies.

If you think Tennessee is not gun friendly, I have a friend in California you might want to talk to....LOL!

[Guest H0TSH0T]

i moved here from ca 9 years ago, there is a difference between degrees of gun friendly and just anti gun.

[Dropkick Murphy]

I guess it's cause I moved from California to Tennessee, but saying Tennessee is not gun friendly is crazy talk to this here yankee.

[Guest H0TSH0T]

sure, sure, i can agree, TN, is way better than CA regarding guns, and better than some of the northern states but there is room for improvement, example being able to defend your self by carrying legally with a permit in city parks (SOME YOU CAN AND SOME YOU CANT), restaurants (SOME YOU CAN AND SOME YOU CANT), ect. Being able to shoot someone on your land committing a crime, like in Texas, and not having to have a permit to oc, like NC. Although we do have more rights than citizens of some states, we are not as free, as some of the other states. But if i had to give it a letter grade, as if i were a school or university, it would be a B/B+ and with some extra credit and some common sense it could eventually become an A-

Edited November 17, 2009 by H0TSH0T