Resturaunt prohibited concealed handgun signs...?

[LA_357SIG]

Are those still legal to have posted in resturaunts? The ones in red letters on white background that says "knowingly possessing a concealed handgun where alcoholic beverages are served...blah, blah, blah... fines... imprisonment... under Tennessee code...

That resturaunt bill did pass already? Right?

What I am asking is if a resturaunt still has those signs up (before the bill passed) are they still lawfully enforceable?

[TMMT]

A restaurant can still ask you to leave if you are carrying. But under the states criminal trespass law you must be allowed to opportunity leave and refuse to do so, or return to the property after you were given a warning not to come back before you can be arrested.

[rstandley]

These owners do not know the current law and most likely don't care. Be warned if you get the law called on you, the officer may not know the law either. Just the hazzards of having 20,000 gun laws. Do as I do, don't ask don't tell or don't show.

Robert

[JayC]

Are those still legal to have posted in resturaunts? The ones in red letters on white background that says "knowingly possessing a concealed handgun where alcoholic beverages are served...blah, blah, blah... fines... imprisonment... under Tennessee code...

That resturaunt bill did pass already? Right?

What I am asking is if a resturaunt still has those signs up (before the bill passed) are they still lawfully enforceable?

Those signs are still required to be posted, they do not apply to HCP permit holders anymore.

The only sign in a restaurant that applies are properly worded signs under 39-17-1359.

[JayC]

These owners do not know the current law and most likely don't care. Be warned if you get the law called on you, the officer may not know the law either. Just the hazzards of having 20,000 gun laws. Do as I do, don't ask don't tell or don't show.

Robert

Those signs are still required under the law, they still bug you about having them posted when you get an inspection from the beer or abc folks. But they do not prohibit carry for HCP holders unless it's a properly worded sign under 39-17-1359.

I'd hate to see a restaurant get posted here as anti-2nd because they have one of these signs up, they're still required by law.

[Fallguy]

JayC is right...and this has been discussed before.

57-4-203(k) still requires this sing to be posted

MISDEMEANOR. STATE LAW PRESCRIBES A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF ELEVEN (11) MONTHS TWENTY-NINE (29) DAYS IMPRISONMENT AND A FINE NOT TO EXCEED TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($2,500) FOR CARRYING WEAPONS WHERE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ARE SOLD OR SERVED.

....and what that signs says is 100% correct if someone doesn't have a HCP. It describes the penalty in 39-17-1305

If someone has a HCP then there is an exception under 39-17-1305©(3)(A)

So in that case then only a 39-17-1359 sign prohibits a HCP holder from carry.

[Oh Shoot]

JayC is right...and this has been discussed before.

57-4-203(k) still requires this sing to be posted...

The redundancy is, though, that this is the same penalty for going armed in any public place, alcohol present or not.

- OS

[Fallguy]

The redundancy is, though, that this is the same penalty for going armed in any public place, alcohol present or not.

- OS

Except for schools....True.

Not sure why at one time they thought it was necessary to give special warnings at places that served/sold alcohol.

[Dropkick Murphy]

That Mexican food restaurant right infront of Hero Gear still has those old signs posted. I always chuckle to myself and wonder if they know how many armed people go there for lunch after the long drive to hero gear.

[LA_357SIG]

thanks for the replies fellas.

[Glock30Owner]

The redundancy is, though, that this is the same penalty for going armed in any public place, alcohol present or not.

- OS

A person could be charged with both, though. Doubtful if any of our judges would impose consecutive sentances rather than concurrent.

[Fallguy]

It was rescinded.

Handgun Carry Permits

I don't think he was talking about sign posted per 39-17-1359 but rather the ones required (and still required) under Title 57 of the T.C.A.