Holsters

[deafdogdief]

Is there one type of leather over another to use when making a holster? I know some have a lot of salt in them to preserve the leather and can potentially make the gun rot.

[JeffL]

I'm no expert by any means, but horsehide is an excellent material for making holsters.

[DWARREN123]

Horsehide seems to be the best general use and is just a little more than cowhide.

[Guest TnDeerHunter]

What they said

[Oh Shoot]

Horsehide may indeed be more durable over time, but most leather holsters are still cowhide.

I've seen the term "vegetable tanned" mentioned from time to time when makers tout their leather.

I know Bullard says he uses only Herman Oak leather, so if you do some research there, maybe will be informative.

HighNoon's discussion of cowhide vs. horsehide:

Questions - Cowhide Horsehide

Milt Sparks' take on same question:

"One of the more notable properties of horsehide is its natural ability to repel moisture. This is due to the dense cell structure of the hide thus limiting its porosity. This natural ability to repel moisture makes it very useful for certain applications, particularly for use inside the waistband. Unlike with cowhide, horsehides non-porous nature reduces its ability to fully absorb the casing solution during the forming process, making it much more difficult to get good crisp detail of the weapon when molding around the gun. Also for the same reason horsehide tends not to absorb the dye and finishing materials as evenly making it in my opinion, somewhat inferior in that respect to good cowhide.

Horsehide is also somewhat rustic in appearance in comparison to cowhide. Cowhide is graded at the tannery in direct relation to the percentage of scar, range marks and other surface imperfections on the hide. Grade (A) being the best, is what we order from the tannery and a true Grade (A) will generally, but not always, be devoid of any surface imperfections. Horsehide on the other hand, basically only comes from the tannery one way, un-graded and usually with plenty of the above imperfections. On the bright side, much of the scaring, stretch and range marks common on much of the horsehide we get today, is present in unique patterns much like figured wood. We actually set aside some of the more distinct pieces to be used in conjunction with exotic trim where exotic trim is an option on some of our holsters. Since horsehide is unpredictable in its grading, you must accept the fact that any horsehide product you order from us may exhibit some of the above characteristics and is not considered by us to be a defective product. Any horsehide we use in our products is guaranteed to be structurally sound, regardless of any natural markings that may be present on the surface. I guess the bottom line is if you expect from us a clean holster, devoid as much as possible of any natural markings, order cowhide.

On the durability issue there has been much BS circulating on the mythical wear characteristics of horsehide. I will not argue that a well made horsehide holster will give you many years and possibly a lifetime of good service, but with proper care a good cowhide holster will last just as long.

Some of our holsters combine the use of both horsehide and cowhide, taking into advantage the desirable attributes of each material. So which material is better?? That is a personal preference issue. Where horsehide is available as an option, the choice is yours."

- OS

[deafdogdief]

Horsehide may indeed be more durable over time, but most leather holsters are still cowhide.

I've seen the term "vegetable tanned" mentioned from time to time when makers tout their leather.

I know Bullard says he uses only Herman Oak leather, so if you do some research there, maybe will be informative.

HighNoon's discussion of cowhide vs. horsehide:

Questions - Cowhide Horsehide

Milt Sparks' take on same question:

"One of the more notable properties of horsehide is its natural ability to repel moisture. This is due to the dense cell structure of the hide thus limiting its porosity. This natural ability to repel moisture makes it very useful for certain applications, particularly for use inside the waistband. Unlike with cowhide, horsehides non-porous nature reduces its ability to fully absorb the casing solution during the forming process, making it much more difficult to get good crisp detail of the weapon when molding around the gun. Also for the same reason horsehide tends not to absorb the dye and finishing materials as evenly making it in my opinion, somewhat inferior in that respect to good cowhide.

Horsehide is also somewhat rustic in appearance in comparison to cowhide. Cowhide is graded at the tannery in direct relation to the percentage of scar, range marks and other surface imperfections on the hide. Grade (A) being the best, is what we order from the tannery and a true Grade (A) will generally, but not always, be devoid of any surface imperfections. Horsehide on the other hand, basically only comes from the tannery one way, un-graded and usually with plenty of the above imperfections. On the bright side, much of the scaring, stretch and range marks common on much of the horsehide we get today, is present in unique patterns much like figured wood. We actually set aside some of the more distinct pieces to be used in conjunction with exotic trim where exotic trim is an option on some of our holsters. Since horsehide is unpredictable in its grading, you must accept the fact that any horsehide product you order from us may exhibit some of the above characteristics and is not considered by us to be a defective product. Any horsehide we use in our products is guaranteed to be structurally sound, regardless of any natural markings that may be present on the surface. I guess the bottom line is if you expect from us a clean holster, devoid as much as possible of any natural markings, order cowhide.

On the durability issue there has been much BS circulating on the mythical wear characteristics of horsehide. I will not argue that a well made horsehide holster will give you many years and possibly a lifetime of good service, but with proper care a good cowhide holster will last just as long.

Some of our holsters combine the use of both horsehide and cowhide, taking into advantage the desirable attributes of each material. So which material is better?? That is a personal preference issue. Where horsehide is available as an option, the choice is yours."

- OS

Thanks for this qoute. I do remember a few of my friends have some holsters from Sparks and they take a while to get, but they are worth it!

Just read the linnk, too. Great info.

Edited October 31, 2009 by deafdogdief

[willis68]

Thanks for this qoute. I do remember a few of my friends have some holsters from Sparks and they take a while to get, but they are worth it!

Just read the linnk, too. Great info.

They certainly are worth it, I will be waiting around 6 months for the Versa Max 2 that I ordered for my Sig P220, but it will be well worth it just like my others have been