Saiga 12 question

[Guest mrl4ng]

hmmm. I went ahead and ordered the DIY trigger guard...

Anyone have one converted with a tapco FCG? There are a couple brands out there, and was kinda curious if anyone had any reviews to share.

How long did it take you to do the whole project smith?

[poak]

hmmm. I went ahead and ordered the DIY trigger guard...

Anyone have one converted with a tapco FCG? There are a couple brands out there, and was kinda curious if anyone had any reviews to share.

How long did it take you to do the whole project smith?

I believe it's sorted out now, but Tapco DID have a recall on their FCGs a while back.

[Seaslug]

hmmm. I went ahead and ordered the DIY trigger guard...

Anyone have one converted with a tapco FCG? There are a couple brands out there, and was kinda curious if anyone had any reviews to share.

How long did it take you to do the whole project smith?

Poak is right. There was a recall, but it's all been sorted out now. I have the Tapco G2 FCG in my conversion, and it does its job well. I think you'll find that this is the preferred setup for most who do conversions.

[Guest mrl4ng]

also, Seaslug...

What are your hindsight feelings on your cut-down barrel?

If you did it again, would you go with the same length?

Im mostly curious about felt recoil, reliability, and its effect on shot spread using 00 buck.

I was reading in a couple places that if you went too short, you couldnt get gas pressure high enough for it to reliably cycle.

I just purchased my first home, and as such, its not in the BEST area. Soo I decided that I needed a designated home-defense shotgun. For my situation, that means a build that is reliable, manuverable, and not going to break my girlfriend's shoulder if she NEEDS to use it when im not home.

Thanks again for all the responses.

[Seaslug]

also, Seaslug...

What are your hindsight feelings on your cut-down barrel?

If you did it again, would you go with the same length?

Im mostly curious about felt recoil, reliability, and its effect on shot spread using 00 buck.

I was reading in a couple places that if you went too short, you couldnt get gas pressure high enough for it to reliably cycle.

I just purchased my first home, and as such, its not in the BEST area. Soo I decided that I needed a designated home-defense shotgun. For my situation, that means a build that is reliable, manuverable, and not going to break my girlfriend's shoulder if she NEEDS to use it when im not home.

Thanks again for all the responses.

I like the 16" barrel with permanently-affixed brake, as it makes the gun much more suitable for maneuvering in tight quarters (and prettier ).

Gas pressure is not really an issue at that length. You'd have to cut down below 14" to really start to see that effect--or so I was told by the smith. The aftermarket gas plug also helps, although it's important to point out that these guns were never intended to reliably cycle the really cheap stuff.

Felt recoil is fairly stout, although less so than my Remington 870 pump. This also has as much to do with the skeletonized stock as anything. They make recoil pads for the stock I bought, and that might be a good solution for the girlfriend. A vertical foregrip of some sort is probably also a must.

I haven't checked the 00 buck spread, but I can't imagine you'd see a marked difference from the 19" guns at home-defense range. Hope this helps.

Oh, and congrats on the new home purchase!

[Guest mrl4ng]

wellll...Im excited. ha. Anyone have any of the conversion parts on hand before I order em online? I HATE ordering parts online. I dont know what it is, but it seems like I always end up having unexpected fitiment/quality control issues when I dont get to physically inspect a product before I buy it. Maybe im old fashioned, but waiting 3-5 buisness days (or longer) to recieve the wrong part KILLS me.

[Smith]

hmmm. I went ahead and ordered the DIY trigger guard...

Anyone have one converted with a tapco FCG? There are a couple brands out there, and was kinda curious if anyone had any reviews to share.

How long did it take you to do the whole project smith?

Maybe an hour. Most of that was being careful to not grind too much etc. If I were to do it again, which I will as soon as $ is more available, i think I could get the basic conversion done in 30 minutes or less.

[greenego]

I started conversion on my Sagia 12 last weekend. Got everything taken apart. Started to put it back together and dropped the spring for Bolt Hold. I was outside so only God knows where it went. Order two from Carolina Shooters. The bolt hold is a pain in the ass the get back in. I found a video on you tube that I am going to try. I purchased my parts from Mississippi Arms.

[Guest SUNTZU]

Anyone checked out K-Var's site?

http://www.k-var.com/shop/home.php?cat=353

[Seaslug]

Anyone checked out K-Var's site?

http://www.k-var.com/shop/home.php?cat=353

They don't have Saiga-12's on their site, dummy...

[Guest SUNTZU]

They don't have Saiga-12's on their site, dummy...

Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

[Guest mrl4ng]

Gah. Another question.

I have the diy trigger guard, Saw pistol grip, and the tromix FCG ordered...so I have two questions:

1. Am I right to assume I will also need a new screw build kit?

2. For now, I just want to convert it to a pistol grip/standard fixed buttstock. Do I also need to order the "saiga internal stock adapter?"

Im using this as a rough parts list:

Saiga 12 Pistol Grip Conversion Kit with MS Auto Arms Stock [s12CKPMAA] - $220.97 : Mississippi Auto Arms, Inc ::, Your Source for Saiga, AK47, AR15, Tromix, Glock, and SKS firearms and accessories

[Smith]

Gah. Another question.

I have the diy trigger guard, Saw pistol grip, and the tromix FCG ordered...so I have two questions:

1. Am I right to assume I will also need a new screw build kit?

2. For now, I just want to convert it to a pistol grip/standard fixed buttstock. Do I also need to order the "saiga internal stock adapter?"

Im using this as a rough parts list:

Saiga 12 Pistol Grip Conversion Kit with MS Auto Arms Stock [s12CKPMAA] - $220.97 : Mississippi Auto Arms, Inc ::, Your Source for Saiga, AK47, AR15, Tromix, Glock, and SKS firearms and accessories

No. the screw "build kit" is for a true from scratch build. Mainly for attaching the trunions. The DIY trigger guard has the needed hardware.

On the internal stock adapter, that is for attaching Tromix or ACE stocks. Most other stocks just slide in and use the existing tang for attachment.

[Guest SMZRU275]

GREAT THREAD. This is the next firearm I plan to purchase.

[042399tank]

i built this s-12 and love it but been thinking of trading it off lol.