AR-15 10.5 in Barrel ?

[quesogrande]

Is a 10.5 in barrel illegal with out the class III stuff ? If the over all length is more than 26 in, I see them for sale.

[poak]

Yes.

The barrel must be at least 16" regardless of the overall length.

You don't need a class III anything, you just need to pay $200 for your NFA tax stamp.

[molonlabetn]

You can legally buy the uppers seperately... for instance if you were going to create an AR15 'pistol' (without a stock attached, on a registered pistol lower). But to buy a complete gun with <16" barrel, or to install a <16" upper on a rifle lower, you must apply for a tax stamp from the BATFE, to create a registered Short-Barreled Rifle.

If you have a registered machine-gun lower, you can install any length barrel you like.

[quesogrande]

How are the barrels measured?

[Westwindmike]

How are the barrels measured?

From the closed bolt face to the muzzle.

[quesogrande]

Counting the flash supressor?

[Capbyrd]

Counting the flash supressor?

If the flash suppressor is pinned/welded on, then yes. If it is removable, then no.

[~48_South~]

You will see a bunch of short barreled uppers that have lets say 5.5 inch flash suppressors fixed to them thus making the upper legal. As stated above

[quesogrande]

In the ATF book it's says 16in barrel or 26in in overall length, what is overall length all about? And how is that measured?

[poak]

Do you want the answer, or the answer you WANT to hear?

[quesogrande]

It that not same thing?

[poak]

It that not same thing?

Well, sounds like you WANT to hear that you can put a less than 16" barrel on your AR IF you maintain an overall length equal to or greater than 26".

Unfortunately, that's not the case.

To keep yourself legal, you'll need to maintain a barrel length of at least 16" (or a shorter barrel with a flash suppressor that is permanently attached that extends the barrel length to at least 16") AND maintain a 26" or greater overall length. It's not a "this or that" kind of thing.

[quesogrande]

Are you sure Thomas Jefferson said that Quote?

[poak]

Are you sure Thomas Jefferson said that Quote?

Are you sure the word "quote" is to be capitalized?

ETA: I've heard the quote attributed to a wide number of people. Most commonly Jefferson, but also Ford, Goldwater, and Carter. I have also heard it was not a quote, but a paraphrasing of something Jefferson had said once. I'm no historian, and don't claim to be, but I'm least concerned about the origin and most about the message.

Edited October 22, 2009 by poak

[Jasongar8]

Are you sure Thomas Jefferson said that Quote?

This has nothing to do with the your orginal question or has anything to do with NFA firearms or accessories. I WILL NOT put up with a troll in this forum. You have been warned!

[quesogrande]

Ok, well the best i can figure is that the 26in overall length thing keeps people from having a rifle with a 16 in barrel that is overall shorter that 26in. I guess the round would be right on your cheek,and the trigger would could be half way down the barrel.

[poak]

Ok, well the best i can figure is that the 26in overall length thing keeps people from having a rifle with a 16 in barrel that is overall shorter that 26in. I guess the round would be right on your cheek,and the trigger would could be half way down the barrel.

[quesogrande]

That is what i was thinking of.

If have a lower can i just buy a short upper and tax stamp or will i have to have my lower reclassified if you will ?

[fizik]

you'll have to serialize your lower and it is what is registered as the sbr. the upper is then just a part of the rifle, the registered lower 'is' the rifle in the ATF's eyes.

[Guest mac_05evo]

In the ATF book it's says 16in barrel or 26in in overall length, what is overall length all about? And how is that measured?

OAL is measured with the stock fully extended. A rifle has to meet BOTH of these requirements or it requires a $200 tax stamp.

[quesogrande]

Correct paper work complete,

If I buy a 10.5 in barrrel and exchange it with the 16 in I have now what issue would I run into?

[poak]

Correct paper work complete,

If I buy a 10.5 in barrrel and exchange it with the 16 in I have now what issue would I run into?

Complete as in mailed off, or complete as in they've mailed the tax stamp to you and it's in your possession?

If it's the first, I'd keep that barrel far away from your rifle until you get that stamp unless you have a pistol lower in your possession. If it's the second, and your engraving is done, you're good to go

[quesogrande]

I was more concern about functioning issue that I might have and suggestions to make the transaction smoother and things like that.

[Guest thorn]

I was more concern about functioning issue that I might have and suggestions to make the transaction smoother and things like that.

If you want different barrel lengths buy an MRP or 2 seperate uppers. If you want things smooth then follow the law.

Edited November 16, 2009 by thorn

[quesogrande]

Do I need to have a proof of citizenship form and a Form 1 to build an SBR?