Thinking of buying a Mosin

[Retired Navy GMC]

I am looking at buying a (new) mosin 7.62X54. There are so many out there that I am a little confused on what to look for to get a good one. I have heard that I should look for one with a tight bolt, loose bolt, lighter colored stock, darker stock, Hex nut on the barrel, no hex nut. There is so much info and opinions out there that I not sure what is a good one to buy.

I am not very familiar with Mosins so you can see my dilema.

Any suggestions?

[molonlabetn]

Here's a wealth of info: 7.62x54r.net

The only Mosin I ever owned was Polish, and it was put together better than most I had seen... Russian Mosins are supposed to be good as well. That's as far as my personal knowledge goes (except that my shoulder started hurting when I saw the title of this thread)

[Garufa]

The M91/30's are what you can find in the $100+ dollar range. (after shipping, TICS, etc).

Look for one with all matching numbers (bolt & receiver). The hexagonal shaped receivers were manufacutured up until sometime in the '30's, I forget the exact year. They are a little less common than the round receivers of which all WWII manufacture are. Worth an extra $10? That's all up to you.

There are also M38's (not very common) and M44's (common but hard to get now at a decent price).

There are also Finnish Mosins which cost several times more than Russians.

I'd say get one of the latest batches of M91/30's - that's the most common - and pay no more that $150 after tax, tics, etc. Make sure it comes with the bayonet. You'll need that for proper shooting.

They were all rearsenaled after WWII and are like new. Tons of fun.

[JeffL]

Guns & Leather in Greenbrier had a crate of them, I think they said they've got more on order. Head over there and pick you one out!

[Guest HvyMtl]

Hmm, I too am looking at buying a Mosin Nagant.

First thing I think is deciding what model to buy... 1891 /30, M44, or Finnish models...

The 1981 / 30 seems to be a great bang for buck right now. And readily available.

The rough comparison for a 1891 / 30 is a Springfield or M1 Garand - the Springfield and M1 Garand are superior, but the 30.06 caliber (and its performance) is comparable to the 7.62x54r caliber... and you would pay top dollar for either of the American rifles.

Guns and Leather - I highly recommend (not affiliated) as they know what they sell and are easy to deal with - reasonable prices to boot...

Um - I just called Guns and Leather - they have a case of matching number 1891 /30 with the bayonet, and complete accessory group (even the oil can) for $129 + tax and background ($10) still in the cosmoline... They have not found any rifle stock damage, over the average use wear and tear...

Not a bad price.

Price perspective - you may find a 1891 /30 online for $79.99-89.99 plus shipping ($25ish) plus FFL charge ($30-45) plus the $10 background. Which equals at the lowest price $145... And if you go to the gun shop you can look the rifle over.

The Finish M38 would be a great one to get too, but expect to pay way more.

Edited October 7, 2009 by HvyMtl

[mousegunner]

Get one without a sticky bolt.

Honestly, it's hard to go wrong with any Mosin. I have had three, and they were all excellent rifles.

[extremescene]

for tngunowners members Guns and Leather posted that the 91/30s are $109... less than $130 total out the door.

[Moped]

Dang! I wished I lived in Nashville... Wait a minute! What am I saying! No I don't! That's just crazy talk!

But I sure like that price!!! Don't think there are any at that price here.

[Garufa]

Dang! I wished I lived in Nashville... Wait a minute! What am I saying! No I don't! That's just crazy talk!

But I sure like that price!!! Don't think there are any at that price here.

At the gun show last month (Knoxville) there was a guy with two full crates of them. $120 OTD. Maybe he'll be back in a couple of weeks.

[Guest Spuds]

The Finish M38 would be a great one to get too, but expect to pay way more.

No such thing, I suspect you mean Finnish M39? If so, that would be like buying a Dillon 550 press instead of the basic Lee press, buying the top of the line to start with. I agree.

[Angus]

Just got word from mamma.....one of those G&L Mosin's will be under the tree on 12/25/09.....yeah baby!!

[Guest HvyMtl]

Excellent, Angus.

Yeah I meant M39... not M38 - ain't typos grand?

[Guest 1817ak47]

At the gun show last month (Knoxville) there was a guy with two full crates of them. $120 OTD. Maybe he'll be back in a couple of weeks.

did they charge tax and background check???

[Garufa]

did they charge tax and background check???

My understanding at the time was that the price included all that. May be wrong but that is what the sign said. I know dealer had the yellow forms. We'll see tomorrow - if the same guy is back.

[Guest 1817ak47]

what time does it open??? might go there tomorrow. dam just remembered my id does not show my new addy will a power bill or mortgage statement work???

[Guest GunTroll]

OK, seems like a good place to ask.

Why would anyone want one of these. A Mosin that is. Is it for the charming looks? Cartridge capabilities? Design? Or history perhaps? I've seen a lot of people buying these lately. Maybe they always have but I never noticed. So please enlighten me......

[Mike.357]

OK, seems like a good place to ask.

Why would anyone want one of these. A Mosin that is. Is it for the charming looks? Cartridge capabilities? Design? Or history perhaps? I've seen a lot of people buying these lately. Maybe they always have but I never noticed. So please enlighten me......

Maybe this thread will help you with you confusion

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/curio-relics-black-powder/23616-more-mosin-fact.html

[bubbiesdad]

I am looking at buying a (new) mosin 7.62X54. There are so many out there that I am a little confused on what to look for to get a good one. I have heard that I should look for one with a tight bolt, loose bolt, lighter colored stock, darker stock, Hex nut on the barrel, no hex nut. There is so much info and opinions out there that I not sure what is a good one to buy.

I am not very familiar with Mosins so you can see my dilema.

Any suggestions?

I bought mine partly for the piece of history angle, the relative low cost(the gun and the ammo), and getting hooked after shooting one at one of the monthly meet-n-shoots.

Humorous Comparison of an AK47, an AR15 and a Mosin

[LA_357SIG]

The $89 M1891/30 Russian Hex reciever I got from AIM surplus is great. It was a safe bet (from what I hear). The wartime made ones 194?-ish ones are poorly made.

[Guest HvyMtl]

LA 357SIG - how much was shipping and FFL?

How long it take to get to you?

[deafdogdief]

Here's a wealth of info: 7.62x54r.net

The only Mosin I ever owned was Polish, and it was put together better than most I had seen... Russian Mosins are supposed to be good as well. That's as far as my personal knowledge goes (except that my shoulder started hurting when I saw the title of this thread)

+1:lol:

[Guest GunTroll]

Maybe this thread will help you with you confusion

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/curio-relics-black-powder/23616-more-mosin-fact.html

Well I guess it helped me with some info if I wanted to know about the rifle.

I was more curious with why the seemingly big desire to own one? I'm not going to bash on any men/women guns but I just don't get the "craze" to own one. I suspect the price drives the desire.

[Garufa]

I was more curious with why the seemingly big desire to own one? I'm not going to bash on any men/women guns but I just don't get the "craze" to own one. I suspect the price drives the desire.

The desire is they're cheap. Ridiculously cheap. Surplus ammo is still available - enough that you can buy it in sealed tins of 440 rounds for around $80-$100 depending on where you shop.

Also, IMHO everyone needs a mil-surp bolt action. Mosin is not my 1st choice for that but it's the easiest to get. You don't need to worry about cartouches and whatnot. It's just a WWII gun that won the "Great Patriot War". I prefer Mausers, Enfields and Springfields myself.

They're fun to shoot. The recoil will wear you out after a while but a Mosin will put holes in a steel plate at 100 yards. AR's and AK' will not.

[JeffL]

They're cheap to buy, cheap to shoot, and I always want more guns!

[Guest 1shot]

If you hand load them and use the correct diameter bullet for your bore and learn how to shim the action and put a piece of felt around the barrel up where the front handguard band is most of these M/N's will really shoot. They are also great to sport if you are handy with a drill press and welder.