For you NASCAR guys

[Guest mustangdave]

Well...it looks like DODGE is out of NASCAR next season...RPM(Richard Petty Motorsports) signed a letter of intent with Robert Yates Racing to run FORDS. Petty back in a FORD...WOW...seems like old times anyone remember the last time Petty drove a FORD car?

[Guest JHatmaker]

I figured it was coming. What is Penske going to do?

[timcalhoun]

Shoot, long gone are the days of "race it on Sunday and sell it on Monday". It doesn't matter what they are called since pretty much the only thing that really represents any of the manufacturers products are the stickers on the front of the cars. Hell, it might as well be IROC. I think they went the wrong way with the frames etc. I still watch but my heart is not nearly as in it as it was once before. How does the song go..........money changes everything.

[Guest mustangdave]

I figured it was coming. What is Penske going to do?

...LMAO...I heard a RUMOR that Penske was gonna throw $$$$ at SATURN...

[nightrunner]

This doesnt surprise me since chrysler was bought out recently. I bet Chevy is taken out within 2-3 years.

NASCAR died when Earnhardt Sr. died

[Guest JHatmaker]

While they own Saturn now (or whenever they finalize the deal), they still have a contract with Dodge in Nascar for the time being. I did hear they may bring the Saturn mark into Nascar.

[Guest mustangdave]

A V8 SATURN...imagine...or will it be that turbo'd 4 banger....with a TUNE

[Chucktshoes]

A V8 SATURN...imagine...or will it be that turbo'd 4 banger....with a TUNE

It'll be the same car everyone else is driving, just with a Saturn decal on the front.

Meh, Nascar just plain sucks these days.

[Guest JHatmaker]

Apparently Toyota is really pushing NASCAR to replace the old a$$ obsolete V8's they use for a direct injection set-up. With the possibility..wait for it..of switching to turbocharged V6's.

Since both Ford and Chevy are really starting to push their new Turbo V6's, this could happen sooner than later. Toyota technically had to reverse engineer an engine which has no road adaptable use whatsoever just for NASCAR, therefore wasting millions on development. By switching to direct injection, the manufacturers could then start testing racing equipment that could be applied tor real-work driving (similar to F1 = ABS, stability control, etc). The manufacturer's would then see somewhat of a return on investment.

While I'd prefer V8's to little V6's running around a track, it would make things more interesting, and better engines for the public to one day have in their own car. Then we'd truely be back to "Race on Sunday, sell on Monday"

Edited September 11, 2009 by JHatmaker

[nightrunner]

true. i really cant believe that NASCAR is still using the 1st gen carb'd smallblocks for engines. i really thought they would have kept up with technology and upgraded engine platforms by now. i mean gm production cars are now on a 4thgen small block, while nascar is still using a 1st gen. but if they did that and each manufacturer had to use their own brand of engine, ford would be screwed, and possibly toyota, because the GM LSx is waaayyy better than the ford mod engines and anykind of v8 toyota could make up. and the dodge new hemi engines are starting to get enough aftermarket support to run with GM.

another problem is though that there would be TONS of restrictions on the turbo, because they can be tuned almost indefinetely.

[Guest JHatmaker]

...another problem is though that there would be TONS of restrictions on the turbo, because they can be tuned almost indefinetely.

You nailed it. Absolutely, think what they're getting away with now. I'm sure that's several years off, but it is a lot more easy to monitor the engines now due to their simplicity.

[nightrunner]

probably so. with the LSx engines and the Hemi's having a pcm, you can do so much tuning on them its unreal compard to a carbd application. i can only imagine them trying to figure out the tune on one of those because they owned everybody else on the track.

[-boatman-]

anyone remember the last time Petty drove a FORD car?

1969 for one season. Ford Torino Talledaga. He got out of that and went back tp Plymouth when they came out with the Superbird in '70.

[poak]

It'll be the same car everyone else is driving, just with a Saturn decal on the front.

Except it'll have dent-resistant doors.

[VERO1]

As long as they don't go to Hybrids I'll be happy. Nothing like a bunch of Prius Cars of Tomorrow to put the final nail in NASCAR!

[Mr. Brooks]

Except it'll have dent-resistant doors.

Nice

[Guest kdpate]

NASCAR sucks today. No fights, everyone's a pretty boy politically correct doll, and the cars have no identity....

[Guest mustangdave]

NASCAR sucks today. No fights, everyone's a pretty boy politically correct doll, and the cars have no identity....

LMAO...wait until Danica comes over and that other Italian racer chick follows...can you say CHICK FIGHT in the PITS???

[Guest JHatmaker]

LMAO...wait until Danica comes over and that other Italian racer chick follows...can you say CHICK FIGHT in the PITS???

I can see Danica getting a ride, but not Milka. She's not bad, but at the same time not at the level Danica is at.

[Guest mustangdave]

I just want Milka there for the CAT FIGHT...I think she sucks driving...shheew...is that open ended or what?