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[Guest oldfella]

Baucus Health Care Draft to Fine Reluctant Gun Owners up to $3,800

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert

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Thursday, September 10, 2009

By now, members of Gun Owners of America should have received pre-written postcards opposing the anti-gun health care bills that are floating around on Capitol Hill.

Please send in those postcards -- as it's very important for legislative offices to see mounds of gun owners' mail being dumped on their desks!

Now that Congress is back in session -- and the President has given his televised push on health care -- it is time for us to redouble our efforts.

To review the bidding:

Every major health care bill being considered in Congress would require many (if not most) Americans to be covered by insurance policies written by the Obama administration -- so-called ObamaCare.

Among other things, ObamaCare will almost certainly require, by regulation, that all gun-related medical data be fed into a federal health database -- pursuant to a $20 billion program Obama insisted be included in the $787 billion stimulus bill.

So, as a gun owner who doesn't want this data to be trolled by the BATFE from a federal database, you might say:

* "I'm not going to buy an ObamaCare policy."

or

* "I'm going to buy the type of insurance that I want to buy."

Well, anti-gun Democrat Max Baucus (D-MT) has a question for you: "How would you like to pay a $3,800 a year fine?"

That's right. In a legislative draft released this week, Baucus would fine you up to $3,800 for not buying precisely the insurance policy which Barack Obama orders you to buy.

So, what's going to be required under ObamaCare? And how much is it going to cost?

Baucus isn't going to tell you that until after the bill is passed. We do know that, under the Baucus draft, a lower middle income family could be forced to pay up to 13% of its income to buy an ObamaCare policy. And, presumably, a middle income family would be required to spend much, much more.

Take into consideration that the Baucus draft -- with its $3,800 per year fines and its ObamaCare -related gun databases -- is the so-called "conservative" bill. This is the one that they're trying to get Republicans to sign onto because it's so "conservative." The final Pelosi-written conference report will be much, much worse.

Incidentally, Obama opposed forcing Americans to purchase government-approved insurance during the campaign, but guess what? He lied.

ACTION:

1. Write your Senators. Ask them to oppose the anti-gun Baucus draft, with its requirement that Americans purchase an Obama-approved insurance policy or pay a $3,800 annual fine. This legislative draft has not yet been publicly released; however, several news agencies have reported on its key features -- and these reviews are widely available on the Internet.

You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your legislators the pre-written e-mail message below.

2. Distribute this email far and wide. There are people that you know who should be involved in the fight against socialized health care who are just sitting on the sidelines. Please forward this email to them and get them involved in the fight!

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

Please oppose the open-ended anti-gun mandates contained in the Baucus health draft. Among other things, Baucus-mandated policies, which would have to be approved by the Obama administration, will almost certainly require, by regulation, that all gun-related medical data be fed into a federal health database -- pursuant to a $20 billion program Obama insisted be included in the $787 billion stimulus bill.

So, what if a gun owner insists on buying the type of insurance he wants to buy? Sen. Baucus would fine him up to $3,800 a year.

That's right. In a recently released draft, Baucus would fine gun owners up to $3,800 for not buying precisely the insurance policy which Barack Obama orders them to buy. So, what's going to be required by this Baucus-mandated policy? And how much is it going to cost?

Baucus isn't going to tell us that until after the bill is passed. We do know that, under the Baucus draft, a lower middle income family could be forced to pay up to 13% of its income to buy an ObamaCare policy. And, presumably, a middle income family would be required to spend much, much more.

Incidentally, Obama opposed forcing Americans to purchase government-approved insurance during the campaign.

In short, please oppose the anti-gun, anti-freedom Baucus "compromise" and please let me know exactly where you stand on this issue.

Sincerely,

[Guest H0TSH0T]

regardless of what is passed or not in regards to health-care reform or under the guise of..... no administration, bureaucrat, representative governmental entity or the likes of will get a dime from me by passing something that forces every person in America to pay to live.

last-night i listened to the presidents speech. i carefully listened to what he said and didn't, i agreed with 2/3rds of it, how ever from the point that he was heckled, (some yelled out that he was a liar, when he said no illegal alien will receive or benefit form this health care bill) and his famous double talk he compared that our nations health care should be like car insurance, everyone must pay to make it work or fines will be imposed. let me make my point on this so it is crystal clear.

first off, Driving a car is a privilege not a right in most if not all states in the union. you are required to pass a test, prove your ability to obey the law and operate the vehicle in a safe manner or not drive. abuses of this privilege will revoke this privilege.

last i checked, Being born is not a privilege nor is it regulated or is any of the governments business other than the +1 on the census every 10 years. Being American is not revocable, you simply are or are not by deciding to reside and become a citizen elsewhere.

Now even though it is not popular to say this i am, we are free people, Despite what our government wants you to believe our Original government was designed to not work (they would be so busy arguing over some silliness that nobody cared about while we enjoyed these freedoms) so YOU and ME can have all the freedoms and liberties a human can possibly have, as long as we don't hurt others in doing so.

now fast forward to the times of today,,,

most of our citizens have been sold a bill of goods from generations past to this exact moment, that has slowly eroded our freedoms, our rights, and has slowly and surly changed to a point of instead of us WE THE PEOPLE having the power to the elite self serving arrogant politicians of today do. That they see it as a job instead of a service. This is a great disservice! They don't care about what you have lost as long as they gain or continue to gain the opportunity to bargain away these freedoms, and liberties and make a profit in doing so, We the people pay those bills, not them, us. The luxury they live in is yours, or was until you gave that up over some silliness that you thought or didn't think you gave up to gain some benefit like welfare, or social security, and yes our parents and their parents were lied to, and over time, lied to again and again, until people started to notice that hey,....this is not working,,,,,hey where is all the money we invested into this program.....hey why am i paying more now for less benefit......hey how come i have to wait longer to get the same benefit as my dad......and to this day we have citizens that have been asleep at the wheel and still don't know that there is a problem here.

and to answer that question I know you were thinking it is YES our government knows exactly how stupid you/we are, they educated us, have instilled our greed, our beliefs that we can have the American dream..... but you missed the small print that you have to work hard for it, you have to tirelessly chase that dream........Not that you can sit on your ass, popping out kids and having all the other hardworking people pay for you. Just cause you watch TV and see supper star entertainers and music figures live the life means you are equally entitled to the same,-what you don't see (WORK) is how they got there. getting you to buy into a lie is their work. are you entertained?

now back to the point, this is another chance for you to give up your freedom and have to pay to be alive, to be an American, till the day you die, so you can fund a government to keep you enslaved in the bondage of debt. No way in hell i am gonna finance this i am done, i work for me and my family, and i will do as i wish with the monies i earn, i am self employed so fat chance getting my money or forcing me to pay some fine through my wages. I am not a wage slave! and i do feel sorry for anyone who doesn't realize the price they pay for inferior waste but that is a choice you will have to face, what is to much for you. I just hit my limit. form here on out the only stupidity i will finance is my own. I work to live, not live to work, and i sure as hell am not going to live to pay to pay to live. F@#k that, they can come try to kill me, i will be waiting....

our country needs citizen reform!

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What does "gun-related medical data" mean?

[Guest PapaB]

What does "gun-related medical data" mean?

It could include questions about whether you use a gun and how. Example: Do you target practice, shoot skeet or trap? Possible eye injuries and hearing damage. Concerns about damage to finger, wrist, elbow and shoulder.

It's hogwash, but they'll claim it's needed info for their coverage.