The 2A does not exsist in California

[The Rabbi]

Judges are supposed to interpret the law... not societal norms.

The 'right to privacy' term may have been coined in the 70s... but the idea behind it even predates the 4th Amendment.

Yes, the interpret, based on societal norms among other things.

There is no "right to privacy" mentioned anywhere prior to Griswold.

[saintsfanbrian]

Sorry, Right to Privacy DOESN'T exist:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

This means that they can't just walk up and start searching you (though it is done) and they can't just walk in your home (though they do) with out cause.

Then again, I thought I had a right to free speech.

[Mike.357]

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Doesn't form 4473 make gun purchasing a priviledge?. It does make it so.

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No. Form 4473 insures that the transferee is not a prohibited person. That is different.

Whats the difference? One guy gets the gun one guy doesn't. Same result.

[The Rabbi]

Whats the difference? One guy gets the gun one guy doesn't. Same result.

Not at all.

In the one case (purchase) the gov't is merely insuring you are not prohibited. In the other (HCP) you have to demonstrate specific competency.

[Guest CrazyLincoln]

Well, my whole point was even though TN considers carry a privilege. We all law-abiding adults can purchase and possess firearms without a license. This guy didn't get busted for carrying, he got busted for buying without a license.

The HCP isn't ideal, but at least the TBI can't knock down your door and take your guns just because you didn't report to the state. That is why we have something of a 2A, even if it is not fully realized.