Properly Posted or Not?

[Oh Shoot]

Concealment is important in this state with these signs. 500 bucks isn't a bad fine ...

Likely lose your carry permit, seems to me.

Violation of ANY of the weapons statutes is reason to pull it.

edit: not necessarily ANY, but SOME.

I have no idea if this would be done automatically or what, though.

- OS

Edited September 13, 2009 by OhShoot
factoid revision

[Fallguy]

Likely lose your carry permit, seems to me.

Violation of ANY of the weapons statutes is reason to pull it.

I have no idea if this would be done automatically or what, though.

- OS

I believe we have decided that based on the fine violation of 39-17-1359 is a Class B misdemeanor. That in-and-of-itself is not enough to get you HCP suspended.

However there are a few "catch alls" in the law that could be used.

But even a conviction of Class A misdemeanor only suspends your HCP for the duration of the sentence and you can apply to have reinstated after the sentence is complete.

[Oh Shoot]

oops...see following post.

Edited September 13, 2009 by OhShoot

[Oh Shoot]

I believe we have decided that based on the fine violation of 39-17-1359 is a Class B misdemeanor. That in-and-of-itself is not enough to get you HCP suspended.

However there are a few "catch alls" in the law that could be used.

But even a conviction of Class A misdemeanor only suspends your HCP for the duration of the sentence and you can apply to have reinstated after the sentence is complete.

FG, "we" may have decided that ..

However, there is a clear cut statement in:

39-17-1352. Suspension or revocation of license. —

(6) Has violated any other provision of §§ 39-17-1351 — 39-17-1360;

Obviously, a conviction for carrying where posted on private property would fall under that, yes?

additional irony: this would affect carrying in a restaurant or other private biz, but not in a park or other places (courts, etc), as those statutes are prior to 39-17-1351.

Then there's the catchall of :

(3) Poses a material likelihood of risk of harm to the public;

Which, I suppose could be enacted by whoever is in authority to do so if they had a hard on to get involved against you.

- OS

[Fallguy]

Does look like the intended for a violation of 39-17-1359 to be cause to suspened or revoke your HCP.

[Guest ab28]

And significantly similar means what exactly? If the purpose of the sign is to give notice that I dont want weapons on my property why does a sign that says No firearms on premises with or without an international slash good enough? Just because I don't tell you what will happen to you if you break the law?

My right to effective self defense supercedes your property rights. I do not carry at properly posted locations because of the law. My life is more important than property, sorry.