what we don't need to see from Private Security firms

[Guest mustangdave]

got this video link from an email I was sent...some high caliber private security bubbas in my former home town of Sacramento, CA

YouTube - Security and Police are two different animals

[DavidCBaker]

I don't mean this to be disrespectful, but I really think these private folks in look-alike patrol cars who lead funerals through urban traffic need to be reigned in, too. It's like they're on some rambo drive, holding the horn/siren down, flashing lights, etc. They are NOT as important as ambulances and patrol cars and fire trucks, and the more they do that, the more people are going to wonder what sort of authority they really have.

[Smith]

Being in the industry (2nd job) there are a lot of folks you gotta watch out for. On the other hand a lot of the older guys are retired LEO, correctional, or military guys who do know what they are doing and sometimes come across as LE because that's their default training. The biggest problem is the industry is rapidly growing and demand is higher than ever. A lot of these companies will hire just about anyone and starting a salary at 9 hr isn't going to get the best of employees.

Think of it like Walmart employees working in security! (inside joke)

[Guest mustangdave]

Wasn't trying to disparage those that are PROFESSIONAL in their attitude and job performance. It's just a shame that this is how the public will perceive you for the most part after a "glowing" news report. the gent with his ball cap on backwards just ads to the stereo type too. Shame

[deerslayer]

The security guys who are hired to stop traffic when churches let out get on my nerves. One near my house once motioned for me to stop to let TWO cars out. I blew right by him.

[Smith]

The security guys who are hired to stop traffic when churches let out get on my nerves. One near my house once motioned for me to stop to let TWO cars out. I blew right by him.

Don't know about the ones you see, but here in Nashville they have to be LE and are hired off duty. Sad they have to hire them. Used to be people had more courtesy.

[deerslayer]

Don't know about the ones you see, but here in Nashville they have to be LE and are hired off duty. Sad they have to hire them. Used to be people had more courtesy.

They don't, IMO. It's a status symbol for some of the bigger churches.

[strickj]

I don't mean this to be disrespectful, but I really think these private folks in look-alike patrol cars who lead funerals through urban traffic need to be reigned in, too. It's like they're on some rambo drive, holding the horn/siren down, flashing lights, etc. They are NOT as important as ambulances and patrol cars and fire trucks, and the more they do that, the more people are going to wonder what sort of authority they really have.

Yeah that's real nice.

Lets remove officers from crime to direct traffic,and complain about having to sit 30 seconds to pay respect to the departed

[poak]

They don't, IMO. It's a status symbol for some of the bigger churches.

Hey, they've got to at least LOOK like they're putting the collection money back into the church

[DavidCBaker]

Yeah that's real nice.

Lets remove officers from crime to direct traffic,and complain about having to sit 30 seconds to pay respect to the departed

You might want to read what I said again. Like about respect, and nothing about real officers.

Edited July 17, 2009 by DavidCBaker

[Guest canynracer]

I don't mean this to be disrespectful, but I really think these private folks in look-alike patrol cars who lead funerals through urban traffic need to be reigned in, too. It's like they're on some rambo drive, holding the horn/siren down, flashing lights, etc. They are NOT as important as ambulances and patrol cars and fire trucks, and the more they do that, the more people are going to wonder what sort of authority they really have.

actually, they DO have authority over that funeral Procession... it is their job to make sure the intersections are safe so the folks can follow the hurst. I just attended a funeral, and I gotta say, to the outside folks looking in.. it doesnt look all that good...but when you are in the procession, it is very controlled, and they do a great job.

55-8-183. Funeral processions. —

(a) Funeral processions properly identified by a flashing amber light on the lead vehicle, or identified as a police escort, where the vehicle has visual signals and is equipped with or displays an amber light accompanied by a blue light visible from the front of the vehicle, or led by a properly identified escort, shall have the right-of-way on any street, highway, or road through which they may pass, subject to the following provisions:

(1) The operator of the leading vehicle in a funeral procession shall comply with stop signs and traffic-control signals, but when the leading vehicle has progressed across an intersection in accordance with that signal or after stopping as required by the stop sign, all vehicles of the procession may proceed without stopping regardless of the sign or signal when each of these vehicles has its headlights lighted;

(2) Vehicles in a funeral procession shall drive on the right-hand side of the roadway and shall follow the vehicle ahead as close as is practical and safe;

(3) Operators of vehicles in a funeral procession shall yield the right-of-way to an authorized emergency vehicle giving audible signal by siren and shall yield the right-of-way when directed to do so by a traffic officer;

(4) On public highways and interstates, vehicles in a funeral procession shall proceed at a minimum speed of forty-five miles per hour (45 mph); and otherwise, on streets and roads at a speed not to exceed five miles per hour (5 mph) below the posted speed;

(5) Vehicles following a funeral procession on a two-lane highway may not attempt to pass the procession; and

(6) No operator of a vehicle shall drive between vehicles in a properly identified funeral procession except when directed to do so by a traffic officer.

( Motorcycle escorts of properly identified funeral processions may:

(1) Notwithstanding § 55-8-182© or any other law to the contrary, operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles;

(2) Notwithstanding § 55-9-201 or any other provision of law to the contrary, install a bell, siren, or exhaust whistle of a type approved by the sheriff of the county in which the motorcycle is to be operated; provided, that the system is deactivated at all times the motorcycle is not escorting a properly identified funeral procession; and

(3) Notwithstanding § 55-9-402 or any other law to the contrary, install a green strobe flashing light system of a type approved by the sheriff of the county in which the motorcycle is to be operated; provided, that the system is deactivated at all times the motorcycle is not escorting a properly identified funeral procession.

© (1) Unless complying with the specific order of a law enforcement officer, no operator of a motor vehicle shall knowingly:

(A) Fail to yield the right-of-way to a properly identified funeral procession progressing across an intersection in accordance with the provisions of subdivision (a)(1);

( While following a properly identified funeral procession along a two-lane street, road or highway, pass or attempt to pass a properly identified funeral procession; or

© Drive or attempt to drive between the vehicles within a properly identified funeral procession.

(2) Each violation of subdivision ©(1) is punishable by a civil penalty not to exceed fifty dollars ($50.00).

(3) For purposes of this subsection ©, to be a “properly identified” funeral procession, the procession must be indicated by a flashing amber light and a auditory signaling device mounted on the lead vehicle or by other properly identified escort, and a flag or other appropriate marking device on each vehicle in the procession indicating that the vehicle is part of the funeral procession.

(4) Any county or municipality may adopt the provisions of this subsection © for properly identified funeral processions within its jurisdiction by a two-thirds (2/3) vote of the legislative body of that county or municipality. If a county or municipality adopts this subsection ©, the presiding officer of that legislative body shall proclaim and certify its adoption to the secretary of state.

[Acts 1978, ch. 498, § 1; T.C.A., § 59-884; Acts 1999, ch. 450, § 3; 2000, ch. 691, § 1; 2001, ch. 50, § 1; 2002, ch. 509, §§ 1, 2; 2003, ch. 72, § 1; 2006, ch. 581, § 1.]

[DavidCBaker]

For some reason we seem to have a lot go by in our part of town. Maybe we're on a convenient route, since I've seen so many going east on OHB and north on Nolensville Pike.

I don't have any problem with keeping the procession together, but I've seen them do unsafe things, including violating 55.-8-183.a.1, entering an intersection while the light is red.

[Guest SUNTZU]

I'm not as old as some of you guys, but I remember and was taught to stop for funeral processions as a sign of respect. I've always done that. And take your damn hat off as well.

[leroy]

I'm not as old as some of you guys, but I remember and was taught to stop for funeral processions as a sign of respect. I've always done that. And take your damn hat off as well.

I was too. RE: Take your had off--- I tell my 20 year old that all the time.

Keep up the good work.

LEROY

[DavidCBaker]

I'm not as old as some of you guys, but I remember and was taught to stop for funeral processions as a sign of respect. I've always done that. And take your damn hat off as well.

Absolutely. I do that (though I don't wear a hat).

[Guest crystalm]

I was in the front of a 3.5 mile, 4 cop car processional about 2 months ago and they ran red lights just to keep everyone moving. It took over an hour to get about 20 miles. Nearly every car pulled over for it.

[Guest 2HOW]

I'm not as old as some of you guys, but I remember and was taught to stop for funeral processions as a sign of respect. I've always done that. And take your damn hat off as well.

I understand your point, but it is illegal to stop for a funeral procession going the opposite way. FWIW

[mcurrier]

I'm not as old as some of you guys, but I remember and was taught to stop for funeral processions as a sign of respect. I've always done that. And take your damn hat off as well.

While I respectfully agree, the problem is that we soon will have more people dying than being born. Life can't come to a standstill while we all sit on the side of the road.

[mcurrier]

I understand your point, but it is illegal to stop for a funeral procession going the opposite way. FWIW

Yup, and I've been stuck behind many a doofus who does so, right in the middle of the road on a four lane divided highway no less.

[Smith]

While I respectfully agree, the problem is that we soon will have more people dying than being born. Life can't come to a standstill while we all sit on the side of the road.

Yup, and I've been stuck behind many a doofus who does so, right in the middle of the road on a four lane divided highway no less.

Wow. That a way Mr. public servant. I think you proved the point of the above post.

[deerslayer]

I guess I'm just an a-hole. I'll gladly yield the right of way to a funeral procession, pull over if I'm in they way, etc. I won't pull over if it's going the opposite way though; for crying out loud, the guy's dead! It's a waste of time and probably a safety issue too.