Snakes and boots?

[Guest adamoxtwo]

That's impossible Dave because they aren't here remember

[Guest adamoxtwo]

http://news.yahoo.com/american-mountain-lions-may-staging-comeback-140123969.html

Weird....you mean these things travel? But don't worry I have been told many times they are not in TN.

[Guest nowheretobefound]

I don't worry about boots, I usually pick 'um up and take 'em back for a tasty dinner!

And seriously with all the hot weather and little rain (at least at my place) I've seen allot more snakes out searching for a source of moisture/water.

I grabbed this guy just a couple days ago.

[DaveS]

Man, that is one big a** Rat Snake!! I hope he wasn't in your house!!!

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

If that was a rat snake... why did you kill it? they are more beneficial that schmoosched

If it is a poisonous snake.. what kind is that?

I accidently ran over a snake in my driveway.. G said it was a Copperhead and fat one at that.I dont like killing snakes.. I allmost cry when I kill those gartersnakes on accident.

I dont get why people feel the need to kill non-venoumous snakes on purpose or even swerve to hit one or a turtle on the road.

.Makes me ill...

[Motasyco]

I didn't learn much about woodland footwear in this thread but I thoroughly enjoyed reading through it.

[Guest Lester Weevils]

If that was a rat snake... why did you kill it? they are more beneficial that schmoosched

If it is a poisonous snake.. what kind is that?

I accidently ran over a snake in my driveway.. G said it was a Copperhead and fat one at that.I dont like killing snakes.. I allmost cry when I kill those gartersnakes on accident.

I dont get why people feel the need to kill non-venoumous snakes on purpose or even swerve to hit one or a turtle on the road.

.Makes me ill...

Well here is one justification-- I'm just taking a devils advocate position and also don't see haphazardly killing random beneficial snakes. Folks who take their dogs backpacking in some parts of the country lose the dogs to rattler bites because the dog sees the snake and the owner can't control the "hunting instinct" and keep the dog away from the rattler. I read about training programs offered to teach dogs to leave snakes alone but it is definitely working against instinct.

Luckily we don't get many snakes on my lilttle woods. Maybe there are naturally not many snakes, and then the presence of the dogs sniffing every square foot of the place every day tends to "chase off" whatever snakes might want to hang out? But my hounds will kill and eat whatever they catch. If they had got accustomed to offing and eating non-poisonous snakes, then it would make it even more dangerous for em if a copperhead or rattler travels thru. I don't go out there and supervise the dogs every day while they are out there sniffing every twig.

So possibly under that logic, you wouldn't want any snakes at all on the property, because you don't want fido to get accustomed to killing them?

Maybe that is flawed logic. I'm expert with flawed logic.

[Clod Stomper]

Well here is one justification-- I'm just taking a devils advocate position and also don't see haphazardly killing random beneficial snakes. Folks who take their dogs backpacking in some parts of the country lose the dogs to rattler bites because the dog sees the snake and the owner can't control the "hunting instinct" and keep the dog away from the rattler. I read about training programs offered to teach dogs to leave snakes alone but it is definitely working against instinct.

Luckily we don't get many snakes on my lilttle woods. Maybe there are naturally not many snakes, and then the presence of the dogs sniffing every square foot of the place every day tends to "chase off" whatever snakes might want to hang out? But my hounds will kill and eat whatever they catch. If they had got accustomed to offing and eating non-poisonous snakes, then it would make it even more dangerous for em if a copperhead or rattler travels thru. I don't go out there and supervise the dogs every day while they are out there sniffing every twig.

So possibly under that logic, you wouldn't want any snakes at all on the property, because you don't want fido to get accustomed to killing them?

Maybe that is flawed logic. I'm expert with flawed logic.

I agree. And here's another reason. I've seen snakes crawl into the house. I don't care what it is; mammal, reptile, arachnid or insect is not going to be welcome in my house if it isn't supposed to be there.

If I'm walking around in the woods, I'll leave a non-venomous snake alone. If it's crawling through my yard toward the house....

And, yes, we also have dogs that will get involved. Either the hunter instinct will kick in and they'll try to tangle with it, or they will be curious and go stick their nose on it. Venomous or not. I like the dogs more than snakes.

Will

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

Yep.. makes sense.... this wasnt meant as acusatory at all.. was just wondering why people want to off these things..

And I understand that if you have dogs or other animals.. they come first. We had a cat bit by a snake.. his head looked like a football for a week.. suprised he didnt die from it

I have animals.. and we used to have chickens and guinea fowl and turkeys... they where free range during the day and they did attract a lot of snakes. poisonous and non-poisonous....I hated it because they would try to get into the coops.

we used to get quite a few rat and blacksnakes on our property... and we chuck those under the house here to get the mice and rats. We also used to have pleny green tree snakes and now you do not see any.. maybe one a year on the road.. dead. same with box turtles.

Iwould hate to see someoens dog or even kid get bit by one.So I get the kill on sight thing.. I would do the same thing.. I just think even the small gartersnakes or glas snakes and whatnot are to neat to just off..lol

[DaveS]

Proper identification is the key!

[Spots]

Yeah knowing if its a black snake or a cottonmouth is super important. In other states wete they are of course, cause the creek this weekend didnt look like a perfect breeding ground and I didnt kill on in a pond up home a few years back. Of course, identifying a snake can be hard when they are under a brush pike where your trying to get wood, etc. If a snake leaves me alone Ill leave it alone most of the time. But if I need something that he has taken resdience in, we are gonna have an issue.

[DaveS]

Yeah knowing if its a black snake or a cottonmouth is super important. In other states wete they are of course, cause the creek this weekend didnt look like a perfect breeding ground and I didnt kill on in a pond up home a few years back. Of course, identifying a snake can be hard when they are under a brush pike where your trying to get wood, etc. If a snake leaves me alone Ill leave it alone most of the time. But if I need something that he has taken resdience in, we are gonna have an issue.

Are we gonna get to see "a fight" buddy?

I feel the same way as you do. When I was at your place this weekend...I watched every single step I made.....just the way it is! lol

[Guest nowheretobefound]

Man, that is one big a** Rat Snake!! I hope he wasn't in your house!!!

Yea, he was good size (I’m 6-1). A couple days earlier I tried to relocate him down to one of our barns but the fool decided the front porch was going to be his new hooch regardless of my decision. The wife said that wasn’t gonna fly so the ole recondo days kicked in, I grabbed him once more and slit him with my tanto folder, skinned him down, marinated him for a hour, then enjoyed some brews with my neighbor while he was on the barbeque, the wife did not participate!

[DaveS]

Yea, he was good size (I’m 6-1). A couple days earlier I tried to relocate him down to one of our barns but the fool decided the front porch was going to be his new hooch regardless of my decision. The wife said that wasn’t gonna fly so the ole recondo days kicked in, I grabbed him once more and slit him with my tanto folder, skinned him down, marinated him for a hour, then enjoyed some brews with my neighbor while he was on the barbeque, the wife did not participate!

Good eats indeed...well with brews anyways! lol

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

you ate that thing? lol gross..

[Guest nowheretobefound]

you ate that thing? lol gross..

You've let too sheltered a life, and I can tell you with over 25 years in special forces I've eaten some bad tasting things but snake is not one of them. Snake meat contains protein like any other type of meat. Protein provides amino acids the body cannot obtain any other way, which do everything from building cell walls, to regulating hormones. Snake meat contains roughly 93 calories per 100g (3.5 oz) of raw meat, depending on the type of snake. This is roughly half the calories and one third the amount of fat of a similar amount of sirloin beef steak. Fewer calories and less fat content for the same weight of meat can aid dieters in controlling their weight.

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

Yeah.. sheltered I was not.. trust me..

I had Rattlesnake in New Mexico before.

And I think its gross. Same with Aligator meat.. and some other exotic meats.

Some people dont enjoy eating critters like that and I find eating them gross.

[Dolomite`s Breezy]

You've let too sheltered a life, and I can tell you with over 25 years in special forces I've eaten some bad tasting things but snake is not one of them. Snake meat contains protein like any other type of meat. Protein provides amino acids the body cannot obtain any other way, which do everything from building cell walls, to regulating hormones. Snake meat contains roughly 93 calories per 100g (3.5 oz) of raw meat, depending on the type of snake. This is roughly half the calories and one third the amount of fat of a similar amount of sirloin beef steak. Fewer calories and less fat content for the same weight of meat can aid dieters in controlling their weight.

And thanks for the dietary lesson...