An open letter to the folks on this board....

[Guest HexHead]

Now that the "clean" bill has passed, and will become law effective July 14th, I want to take this opportunity to apologize to many members here.

I won't name names, because I can't remember all the feathers I may have ruffled, but you know who you are.

Yeah, I was willing to compromise and accept half a loaf to ensure we got a restaurant carry bill. I questioned the wisdom of those of you that insisted on a clean bill, saying it was a "bill too far" and that we could just as easily end up with nothing.

Nothing makes me happier than to admit I was wrong and to thank you guys for standing up for your principles. Especially since I'll get to benefit from your actions. Well, except for those nights I'm in bed at 10pm.

Thanks again guys and I hope you'll all accept my apology for doubting you.

Hex

[Fallguy]

LOL...no need to apologize Hex, but thanks for the gesture.

It has definitely been a long path to this day for all of us!!!

[GLOCKMEISTER]

Dude Im right there with ya so no worries Hex... btw you werent wrong. In so many years past ANYONE involved in this process for any length of time would have been happy with a half a loaf.

[Guest Bronker]

This is a victory for all of us today. Let's keep that in perspective, that the end justified the means.

[Guest SomeGuy]

Hex,

I was one of those who was pretty strident in criticizing you, but I will be the first to congratulate you. You said you would do this, and you followed your word, secondly, few people can publicly admit to being wrong.

I don't drink, so I can't take you out for one, but if you are in my neck of the woods we can hit the range together bud.

Looking forward, what happened in the past is the past. From here on in we should always push the limit and go for broke. We have the votes, we just need to use our will to push them!

[cadillacdude1975]

ruffling feathers is always needed at some time or another. that is what fires up debates, and that is why internet forums were created. you can get as mad as you want but in the end, we all go to bed at home.

this law has been coming for many many years, and i hope that Naifeh and Bredesen are haunted by this for years to come. i could tell by watching Naifeh yesterday he was mad as hell he was no longer in a position to kill this bill again.

the HCP holders of Tennessee will prove those 2 cock clowns wrong, just as we always have each and every day.

[Guest jmac]

Classy post Hex. I was fine with the curfew and age-restricted venue, but the principled folks on this board aimed higher. +1 to them, and the majority of our legislators as well.

[Guest Arko]

Now that the "clean" bill has passed, and will become law effective July 14th, I want to take this opportunity to apologize to many members here.

I won't name names, because I can't remember all the feathers I may have ruffled, but you know who you are.

Yeah, I was willing to compromise and accept half a loaf to ensure we got a restaurant carry bill. I questioned the wisdom of those of you that insisted on a clean bill, saying it was a "bill too far" and that we could just as easily end up with nothing.

Nothing makes me happier than to admit I was wrong and to thank you guys for standing up for your principles. Especially since I'll get to benefit from your actions. Well, except for those nights I'm in bed at 10pm.

Thanks again guys and I hope you'll all accept my apology for doubting you.

Hex

Classy man. Nicely done. We're all on the same team.

[TGO David]

It takes a big man to do that.

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

Hex - stop delaying and just get on with telling us how you feel man!

[Motasyco]

I certainly respect your post and never felt you ruffled my feathers although I will admit I did enjoy watching the jousting.

[Guest kdpate]

I certainly respect your post and never felt you ruffled my feathers although I will admit I did enjoy watching the jousting.

x2...

[Guest db99wj]

Delayed response on my part here. It's the selenium.

Anyway, classy post, and no ill wills on my part. I mentioned in a post somewhere in the interweb TGO world that you are keeping us from being overconfident. That's a good thing. I think you kept a lot people in the game instead of walking away thinking it was a done deal. Because in life, it ain't done until the fat lady is singing! Can you hear her! Glorious singing!

[Oh Shoot]

Hate to be the downer, but I don't see it as a "clean" win, when biz can post to prevent it.

I don't think most other states that allow "bar carry" have that provision?

But still a great win, don't get me wrong. Just not a "total win" as some claim.

- OS

[Mike.357]

no need to apologize Hex, you took as good as you gave.

Besides that a clean bill would have allowed drinking and carrying just like drinking and driving.

[Guest gunslinger707]

Now that the "clean" bill has passed, and will become law effective July 14th, I want to take this opportunity to apologize to many members here.

I won't name names, because I can't remember all the feathers I may have ruffled, but you know who you are.

Yeah, I was willing to compromise and accept half a loaf to ensure we got a restaurant carry bill. I questioned the wisdom of those of you that insisted on a clean bill, saying it was a "bill too far" and that we could just as easily end up with nothing.

Nothing makes me happier than to admit I was wrong and to thank you guys for standing up for your principles. Especially since I'll get to benefit from your actions. Well, except for those nights I'm in bed at 10pm.

Thanks again guys and I hope you'll all accept my apology for doubting you.

Hex

Well done Hex "you da man" !!!

[Fallguy]

Hate to be the downer, but I don't see it as a "clean" win, when biz can post to prevent it.

I don't think most other states that allow "bar carry" have that provision?

But still a great win, don't get me wrong. Just not a "total win" as some claim.

- OS

I get what you are saying, but is just as "clean" as any other place in the state.

Remember all property owner's (including cities and counties) can post property under their control. So this no different.

I know there are states were a sign does not carry the weight of law, but I'm not aware of any state that allows posting, but prohibits and certain group of private property owners from being able to post.

[Oh Shoot]

I get what you are saying, but is just as "clean" as any other place in the state.

Remember all property owner's (including cities and counties) can post property under their control. So this no different....

Good point...of course you're right in that. It was too much to hope that the posting option would be removed like in some other states, where posting has no legal meaning.

- OS

[Guest db99wj]

Good point...of course you're right in that. It was too much to hope that the posting option would be removed like in some other states, where posting has no legal meaning.

- OS

Taking away the sign thing would be a complete rewrite of the way the original HCP laws are written.

That would be great though.

[Fallguy]

Good point...of course you're right in that. It was too much to hope that the posting option would be removed like in some other states, where posting has no legal meaning.

- OS

Maybe some day.......

At least I feel there is hope for almost anything after today....

[TGO David]

Hate to be the downer, but I don't see it as a "clean" win, when biz can post to prevent it.

I don't think most other states that allow "bar carry" have that provision?

But still a great win, don't get me wrong. Just not a "total win" as some claim.

- OS

Kentucky doesn't allow anyone to post a prohibited carry sign and restaurant carry has been legal since CCW permits started being issued.

It sucks to admit it, but Kentucky's way ahead of Tenenssee in terms of firearms law.

[Punisher84]

Hex,

Thanks for taking it all in stride

[Guest truthsayer]

I can always honor an apology.

[E4 No More]

Now that the "clean" bill has passed, and will become law effective July 14th, I want to take this opportunity to apologize to many members here.

I won't name names, because I can't remember all the feathers I may have ruffled, but you know who you are.

Yeah, I was willing to compromise and accept half a loaf to ensure we got a restaurant carry bill. I questioned the wisdom of those of you that insisted on a clean bill, saying it was a "bill too far" and that we could just as easily end up with nothing.

Nothing makes me happier than to admit I was wrong and to thank you guys for standing up for your principles. Especially since I'll get to benefit from your actions. Well, except for those nights I'm in bed at 10pm.

Thanks again guys and I hope you'll all accept my apology for doubting you.

Hex

Classy, Hex. You must be a former Marine.

[Trekbike]

Hey, no apology needed. I enjoyed reading everyone's viewpoints.

Anyone up for a group hug?