My Incident at Molly's Restaraunt in Midtown Memphis Last Night

[USMCJG]

Originally posted by me, USMCJG, in this thread: "Since HCP holders in other states have been carrying guns in restaurants for years now, perhaps you could cite the many examples of law-abiding citizens who have gone "Billy the Kid" in all of those states. I'm sure it must have happened dozens, if not hundreds, of times by now. I await the many examples that you will no doubt be able to find. But, be sure to give links to reputable sources, don't just come back with a lot of bs rhetoric and conjecture devoid of facts."

Wow-I believe what we have here is an impasse. Thankfully, I will never, ever agree with your far-right extremism. Much like Bush's decision to wage proactive warfare against Iraq which, shocker of all shockers, was based upon a mountain of lies, your 'proactive logic' is so outside of the bounds of considerate relations between fellow men and demonstrates, at its core, such utter hopelessness and resignation, that I cannot help but feel sorrow for you. I do not say that to be condescending, I mean it. By choosing to carry a gun to the park, or a restaurant, or the mall, or any other place that humans congregate, by choosing to strap a weapon to your hip, just what exactly are you telling YOURSELF? Sure, I sound idealistic, perhaps to the point of naivete, but I have developed an optimism about my fellow man and the potential to expand interpersonal relations that, while constantly tested, I remain very proud of. I seriously considered attaining a carry permit a couple of months ago, but something was holding me back. I now know what that is - I simply refuse to submit to the fear and dread that you have accepted.

Translation: USMCJG, I couldn't find a damned thing to support my argument, so I just thought I'd talk out of my ass some more.

[Currently]

Thank you for a most coherent and patient response.

[Chucktshoes]

There might be help for Mr. Sane believe it or not.

Once upon a time I was very much like him. Back during the run up to Desert Storm I has a bumper sticker that read "War Is Not An Energy Policy", and I was in the Navy at the time! I definitely had liberal tendencies in those days which got worse after I got out and lived in Seattle for a few years. Life experiences, and the ability to think clearly eventually lead me to realize what frauds the Liberals are, and how their vaunted "feel good" policies were always followed by the Law of Unintended Consequences.

I too spent some years slinging booze in a variety of establishments running the gamut of the socio-economic spectrum, and actually that is what indirectly caused me to decide to arm myself. Going to my g/f's house, who was also "in the biz", late at night after a shift I was confronted with one of the dregs of society pointing a gun in my face, in my g/f's driveway. The unique experience of knowing that my continuing to live was totally in the hands of a crackhead, and there was not a damned thing I could do about it changed me. Fortunately I survived. Since that day my eyes have been wide open.

Hopefully Mr. Sane will not be shorn of his wool the hard way, and will come to realize that the world, especially Memphis, is a dangerous place in time.

Yes, Mr. Sane appears to be the typical haughty libtard who knows what is best for us and society, but there may be hope for the lad yet.

BTW: My suspicion is that Mr. Sane either works at Molly's, or has some other connection to the place. I believe he found this thread by doing a search for Molly's for some other reason, otherwise why would he be posting only in this particular thread all of a sudden?

EDIT:

And by the way, I have since realized that yes, war IS an energy policy! I can't think of a much better reason to go to war than to safeguard the nation's access to a limited resource that just happens to be the lifeblood of our economy, and enables our population to be fed.

This sounds amazingly familiar. The details are a little different ( I was in the AF in the mid-late 90's) and have never been robbed at gunpoint. but the overall theme is quite similar to my own experiences.

[Guest (BH)]

I simply think that allowing every Billy the Kid to carry his/her weapon IN A RESTAURANT is another sign of social disintegration masked in 'self-defense'.

So what is it with you? I'm guessing that you are the type who would rather "hope it never happens to you" instead of admitting there is a problem.

Honestly, WTF do you care if we want to defend ourselves in the event of violence being inflicted upon us or a loved one outside of our home? Really it should not be your business if anyone CC's or not.

How many people do you know who have been shot by a HCP holder? And how many people do you know who have been victims of street criminals? I bet it's 0 to >0.

OPEN YOUR EYES!

[Guest (BH)]

THIS IS THE WIFE OF USER (BH).

[Motasyco]

THIS IS THE WIFE OF USER (BH).

Did you tie him up and put him in the closet so you can use his account?

[Guest (BH)]

THIS IS THE WIFE OF MEMBER (BH)

I am a very petite woman, 4'11" and 100 lbs to be exact. I was recently followed by two men in my car. We went from one side of town to the other. To make sure I wasn't just being paranoid I went back to the spot they originally starting following me from...and this was all after they had said some very crude things to me in the parking lot. Thank God I usually employ situational awareness and noticed them. We have a 9 month old daughter, who was in the back seat very hungry and very very mad that we were not home yet so she could eat. But what if I had not noticed these creepy scums? What if I would have drove home? We have an ADT system that has a hostile alarm code that will make an attacker think I turned off the noise but still alert someone. Having that is good, but do you think someone could really be there soon enough? We have guns hidden throughout our home. So to anyone out there who wants to take away my right to carry a gun as an American, as a mother, a wife, a small woman, well I say maybe you should find something better to focus on. Please don't try to take that basic human right away from me to defend myself from attackers.

Yes, this world is a tough and unforgiving place at times. I don't want to seem paranoid or presesnt myself as weak or vulnerable...I am not a delicate person but I have to be realistic and realize that I am TINY and I have to protect myself for my child. So Mr. Sane...please go find someone else to rant to because I really don't respect anything you are trying to say. I know nothing about you but I doubt you know what it is like as a woman to feel threatened, and more than once, while a baby is present. I am with her almost all of the time and I am responsible for her well-being. If I was attacked I do not even want to imagine what would happen to her. If I was killed...who would take care of her? My husband works everyday of the week. I understand you have a gun, but banning guns is an extreme idea. I just ask that anyone who is pushing a gun ban think about us that are a little less capable of fighting someone off. Thanks! - Mrs. H

Edited August 14, 2009 by (BH)

[Guest (BH)]

HAHA. Ya I was just reading what Mr. Sane said and felt strongly compelled to give him my 2 cents. But obviously I kind of messed up the first attempt

[Guest (BH)]

Please help.......

-BH

[TNTitan]

FREE BH!

[Motasyco]

THIS IS THE WIFE OF MEMBER (BH)

I am a very petite woman, 4'11" and 100 lbs to be exact. I was recently followed by two men in my car. We went from one side of town to the other. To make sure I wasn't just being paranoid I went back to the spot they originally starting following me from...and this was all after they had said some very crude things to me in the parking lot. Thank God I usually employ situational awareness and noticed them. We have a 9 month old daughter, who was in the back seat very hungry and very very mad that we were not home yet so she could eat. But what if I had not noticed these creepy scums? What if I would have drove home? We have an ADT system that has a hostile alarm code that will make an attacker think I turned off the noise but still alert someone. Having that is good, but do you think someone could really be there soon enough? We have a guns hidden throughout our home. So to anyone out there who wants to take away my right to carry a gun as an American, as a mother, a wife, a small woman, well I say maybe you should find something better to focus on. Please don't try to take that basic human right away from me to defend myself from attackers. Yes, this world is a tough and unforgiving place at times. I don't want to seem paranoid or presesnt myself as weak or vulnerable...I am not a delicate person but I have to be realistic and realize that I am TINY and I have to protect myself for my child. So Mr. Sane...please go find someone else to rant to because I really don't respect anything you are trying to say. I know nothing about you but I doubt you know what it is like as a woman to feel threatened, and more than once, while a baby is present. I am with her almost of the time and I am responsible for her well-being. If I was attacked I do not even want to imagine what would happen to her. If I was killed...who would take care of her? My husband works everyday of the week. I understand you have a gun, but banning guns is an extreme idea. I just ask that anyone who is pushing a gun ban think about us that are a little less capable of fighting someone off. Thanks! - Mrs. H

I think you deserve your own account. Sign up it's free. You can call yourself...hmmmmm.......MrsH! Welcome and keep standing up for yourself.

[Guest (BH)]

Motasyco: That's really funny. As you were typing that she was creating an account under the user name...

.... What else? Mrs.H!

I mean that's rich. She wanted to see if anyone had posted after her very first post and it was you suggesting that she created the user name she had in fact just created.

So I guess Mr. Sane isn't so bad after all. He got my wife on TGO. Awesome!

Edit: Just to clarify, this all happened after I was released from my captivity at the request of TNTitan

Edited August 14, 2009 by (BH)

[Currently]

Welcome ... Mrs.H

Mr. Sane can keep on shaking the rug, seems like his twisted logic is actually working against him. Must be nice living in a sheltered world ignoring news, events and incidents that scream; "Wake up!"