Governor Phil Bredesen Vetoes HB0962 (Restaurant Carry Bill)

[Guest TargetShooter84]

Fincher Is The Man-

Cant Wait to vote for him-

Mailed him askin for the override and got this back...

Dear Mr. ****,

Thanks for contacting me, and thanks for the kind words! I plan on voting to override the veto. As both a HCP holder and state certified HCP course instructor, I don't think we need to ban law abiding HCP holders who arent drinking from carrying in restaurants that serve alcohol. Drawing these imaginary lines around certain places only prohibits good citizens from carrying, because the crooks will carry whenever and wherever they please.

Thanks for your support - it is really appreciated!! If I can ever be of service to you or your family, please do not hesitate to call on me.

Sincerely yours,

Rep. Henry Fincher

Great response.....

Don't think I've seen anybody whose name was Mr.****?

[VolunteerGuns]

Great response.....

Don't think I've seen anybody whose name was Mr.****?

Hunter. Mr Hunter. I ain't ashamed!

[Fallguy]

I have found the AG OP which makes it illegal for one to do so off-duty (99-024: AG 99-024), but I don't see anything about on-duty carry. Is there another opinion? What am I missing?

I think the law has changed since that opinion.

I admit I was once one that that in the "actual performance of their duties" meant more than simply being on the clock. But others were able to make some pretty good arguments (in another thread a while back) and have me at least convinced enough that even if they are eating lunch, there is enough gray area that no one would charge them.

But if you makes you feel better, I saw a committee meeting last year where Serpas and a Representative debated this and each had opposite ideas and weren't fully sure.

Anyway....here is the law on officer carry.... 39-17-1350

[Guest dusty]

Hey Guys,

I've been a lurker here for some time. Figured I didn't really jhave anything great to add.

I contacted my legisltors regarding the veto.

I got a good reply from Senator Ramsey:

From: Ron Ramsey [mailto:lt.gov.ron.ramsey@capitol.tn.gov]

Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:00 PM

To: Dusty Parsons

Subject: RE: HB 962

Dear Dusty,

Thank you for contacting me! I will do all I can to override this veto

and I am confident we have the votes to do so.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,

Ron Ramsey

Haven't heard anything from Lundberg yet.

I hope everyone is writing thier reps.

[mcurrier]

huh, now I feel much better and safer after that bill has been vetoed...now I know that crazy armed nutcases wont come in the bars to kill people because it is against the law.... huh, what a relief... now we need to outlaw CCW carry period, in the whole country and that will take care of all the shootings and killings and crime will vanished forever... how comforting...

Db

Let's outlaw war while we're at it! Why didn't we think of this before?!?! That will solve everything. No one will ever be killed again because there will be a law against it saying so.

[GKar]

I'd actually spoken with Lt. Gov. Ramsey after church two weeks ago concerning the status of this bill, as well as parks carry. At the time, he felt everything was in good shape with both....and I can certainly vouch for the fact that he is an ardent supporter of this legislation!

Emailed Rep. Mumpower, haven't heard back yet, but pretty certain all is well there.

[Guest 3pugguy]

Bredesen is the consummate politician to the bitter end. Douchebaggery at it's finest!

A new word for my vocabulary box - I love it! And how well it captures good old Phil.

[Guest 3pugguy]

I'd actually spoken with Lt. Gov. Ramsey after church two weeks ago concerning the status of this bill, as well as parks carry. At the time, he felt everything was in good shape with both....and I can certainly vouch for the fact that he is an ardent supporter of this legislation!

Emailed Rep. Mumpower, haven't heard back yet, but pretty certain all is well there.

There is life in the bill, but I guess we should all know by now politicans shift with the winds.

I emailed and have now heard back from Representative Curtis Johnson ®, who stated he will support an override effort.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

guys this one's getting overidden next week. What scares me is if he will veto other gun legislation and the Legislature will be out... that will mean overidden in Jan or come back in for a special session.

Not trying to be negative but thats what were looking at so when contacting your legislature please ask them to stay in for a few more days until all the gun bills pass.

[analog_kidd]

So does anyone have a tally of Rep's and Sen's that have verbally said they will support the veto override?

[Guest Doc44]

There is life in the bill, but I guess we should all know by now politicans shift with the winds.

I emailed and have now heard back from Representative Curtis Johnson ®, who stated he will support an override effort.

Emailed Barnes.... twice, and have recieved nothing back.... called office and left message with a young lady there.... will try to catch him at "his" Subway food plot next week.

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[TGO David]

Great response.....

Don't think I've seen anybody whose name was Mr.****?

Hunter. Mr Hunter. I ain't ashamed!

I always thought it would be cool to have a last name that forum software would automatically censor like that.

You: Hello, my name is Mr. ****

Girl:

You:

[Guest Hornet Handler]

I always thought it would be cool to have a last name that forum software would automatically censor like that.

You: Hello, my name is Mr. ****

Girl:

You:

Riggs

Works here. And it's not cool.

[Guest SUNTZU]

Here's what I got from Stacey Campfield this morning.

You don't have to worry about me. I am with you 100% and will continue to be.

Yours in service,

Rep. Stacey Campfield

[Punisher84]

Riggs

Works here. And it's not cool.

Whatever man. Riggs and Murtaugh dude!

[alingo2001]

According to the TN AG it is just as illegal for an LEO to carry, on or off duty, in an establishment that serves alcohol unless it is in the execution of law enforcement duties. Having lunch or dinner is not an official duty.

I see Murfreesboro Police in Logan's all the time and they are carrying. The law must not apply to them.

[Tim Nunan]

I find it interesting (or disturbing?) that so many of the Representatives/Senators state they "plan" on voting to override the veto. I am more encouraged by those that state they will vote to override.

[Guest benchpresspower]

I find it interesting (or disturbing?) that so many of the Representatives/Senators state they "plan" on voting to override the veto. I am more encouraged by those that state they will vote to override.

Good point

[GKar]

From Rep. Mumpower:

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Thanks for your e-mail. As you requested, I will vote to override the Governor's veto of House Bill 962.

I appreciate your dedication to protecting our 2nd Amendment rights as Tennesseans and Americans.

Thanks,

Jason

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Gotta admit,the word "will" is comforting.

[Guest Doc44]

Good timing here... hope a few reps and senators see the article... and Bredesen looks at the pictures and maybe gets someone to read it to him.

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[Guest HexHead]

I find it interesting (or disturbing?) that so many of the Representatives/Senators state they "plan" on voting to override the veto. I am more encouraged by those that state they will vote to override.

Rep. Gary Moore told me "will vote to override the veto."

[TnEngineer]

These sudden, pressing issues have caused me to enroll also. Glad to be here and glad to be fighting the good fight.

Here are the responses from my state reps.:

Matlock---

RX,

Thanks for your note.I will be voting to overide'

Jimmy

And senator McNally---

R.X.:

Thank you for your recent communication regarding HB962. I appreciate you taking the time to contact me on this matter.

I originally voted for this bill and feel that, under the second amendment it is a right of the people. I am opposed to the Governor’s veto.

You have my assurance that your concerns and suggestions, as well as those of my other constituents, will be reflected in my decision making process as the Senate continues its work.

Randy

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I feel good about this one. It is going to be embarrasing to Phil but one thing is for sure....the veto override will not be on TV with speakers and a backline of police chiefs and district attorneys!

Glad to be here.

[Guest Ranger Rick]

Bredesen to veto guns-in-bars bill? | In Session: Tennessee Politics

He is holding a press conference at 3PM CT.

I'm out of town for a Caribbean cruise for one week... just one week... get back... and I find out that Bredesen sold us out!?!

Man... he can forget about ever getting support from this been-looking-forward-to-going-armed-to-protect-my-family guy!

"How do you tell if a politician is lying... his lips are moving."

Looks like things might be going good on the over ride. Keep up the good work.

[Guest db99wj]

I got a voice mail from Rep Curry Todd this evening and he said the Veto will be coming up for vote Wednesday morning. He also said there is a lot more support for overriding the veto than the opposition does, should be done Wednesday.

From other info I have posted, as soon as that is done, Sen Jackson I assume would bring it up on the Senate floor.

Edited June 1, 2009 by db99wj
Too tired to be post'n important stuff.

[Guest Doc44]

He also said there is a lot more support for the veto than the opposition does, should be done Wednesday.

???

Doc44