HB70 Castle Doctrine Bill

[wjh2657]

Have sturdy storm doors. Lock storm doors. When you unlock storm door you make decision right then how the scenario is going to play out. You don't have to admit anybody but authorities with a warrant into your house, unless you want to admit them. Once you let them in, they are no longer an intruder, they are a guest. Guest rules apply, there is no presumption of threat allowed. Regular SD rules of engagement are in effect, regardless of whether you are in your own house or not.

Too many are interpreting "Castle Doctrine" to mean a free fire zone in your house. Only with forcible entry. If you want to be protected by Castle Doctrine, then you have to lock your doors! I do.

Edited June 1, 2009 by wjh2657

[Guest Ggun]

Have sturdy storm doors. Lock storm doors. When you unlock storm door you make decision right then how the scenario is going to play out. You don't have to admit anybody but authorities with a warrant into your house, unless you want to admit them. Once you let them in, they are no longer an intruder, they are a guest. Guest rules apply, there is no presumption of threat allowed. Regular SD rules of engagement are in effect, regardless of whether you are in your own house or not.

Too many are interpreting "Castle Doctrine" to mean a free fire zone in your house. Only with forcible entry. If you want to be protected by Castle Doctrine, then you have to lock your doors! I do.

Tents and attached porches don't always have doors to lock...

[wjh2657]

#1 reason I always carry at home, you have to go outside sometimes. Garages don't have storm doors either, again EDC. The question was about inside a home not at a barbeque or party outside. Home should be hardened for security. When you are outside you are pretty much back into a "street" situation and act accordingly. If you zip the flap and they unzip it to get in, it is may still be forcible entry. In your yard has always been and still is a testy area. Leaves a lot for the other side's attorneys to play with. You can force them to leave, but again I am not all that sure that deadly force would hold up in court. You can always get up and go in house. We will have to wait and see how Castle Doctrine in the yard (Yes, it is included) holds up in court. The word "forcible" is open to interpretation by their lawyers in court so it has to be pretty rock sound. There really haven't been enough "Castle Doctrine" cases tried in court yet in any of the states to show a solid case law guidance. We are all just speculating.

Meanwhile, I lock doors!

[Guest SUNTZU]

Keep your doors locked. If someone needs to leave your property, be the first on record with the police department. I don't think I would be inviting anyone to my place that I even suspected I would have a problem with, especially a shooting. I kinda like to get to know someone before they ever come to my home. If someone I know gets out of line it can usually be straightened out with conversation. Situational awareness applies to people you allow into your home, IMO.

If its a stranger either crashing a BBQ or sports party, they'll be firmly told to leave and escorted off the premises. Of course, my friends and family consist of several people who are ready to play Whack a Mole on someone endangering their friends and family.

[Guest Ggun]

#1 reason I always carry at home, you have to go outside sometimes. Garages don't have storm doors either, again EDC. The question was about inside a home not at a barbeque or party outside. Home should be hardened for security. When you are outside you are pretty much back into a "street" situation and act accordingly. If you zip the flap and they unzip it to get in, it is may still be forcible entry. In your yard has always been and still is a testy area. Leaves a lot for the other side's attorneys to play with. You can force them to leave, but again I am not all that sure that deadly force would hold up in court. You can always get up and go in house. We will have to wait and see how Castle Doctrine in the yard (Yes, it is included) holds up in court. The word "forcible" is open to interpretation by their lawyers in court so it has to be pretty rock sound. There really haven't been enough "Castle Doctrine" cases tried in court yet in any of the states to show a solid case law guidance. We are all just speculating.

Meanwhile, I lock doors!

Castle Doctrine in the Yard fits nicely with No Duty to Retreat.