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I just saw another video of a P320 going off in a holster.   I have a P320, but I don’t carry it daily, although was considering it.

 

Thoughts?  If you have one, or had one, would you carry it daily, or regulate it to range shooting, or just say “F It” and sell it?

 

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A bit large for me to carry.  Would have no problems trusting mine though.

Have shot mine from holster for idpa and casual competition.  Still have all my body parts.

I wonder if any of the alleged discharges involved weapons with reworked triggers?  The original P320's had nice triggers the latter ones like mine, no so much. 

Installed a Grayguns trigger in mine, it has a much nicer feel and no over-travel.  But, if it did go off in my holster it would be hard to blame Sig as it is a user modified weapon.  People like changing out springs to try and get striker firarms to feel like hammer fired 1911's and such.  Have seen at least one very experienced gunsmith rework a Glock 19 trigger until it was light smooth and unreliable.  It was my G19 and the gunsmith was an old friend educated in the days of wheel guns.  I quietly took it to another smith who put things right.  Another friend had a person who specializes in engraving firearms modify his Sig carry gun.  Not sure I would trust it though it felt nice.

So which of these videos show that the Sig P320 in question was unmodified?

 

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I would have no issues carrying a 320 just because another goober had an ND. The fact that it was caught on video alone is suspect to me. Are there any facts yet that prove that the 320 has some dangerous design flaw? 

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I currently own a P320 compact, and it was purchased in 2019. Sig had a recall to correct the drop problem. I sent mine in and have never had a problem. I also started my USPCS competition with a full-size P320. Again, no issues even when accidently dropped (once in gravel). I moved on to the 226 Legion, but still shoot the 320s. 

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Thanks for all of the feedback.   I haven't really figured out what I want to do yet.  I spoke with my wife about it last night as she really likes the gun.  She is now concerned.   Guess we need to buy more guns.  🙂

 

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You might want to bear in mind that some people still resent that Sig received the military for the M17 (with manual safety)

More than a little politicking going on. As well as cover my ass ND jerks

 

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8 hours ago, DraxTheDad said:

Thanks for all of the feedback.   I haven't really figured out what I want to do yet.  I spoke with my wife about it last night as she really likes the gun.  She is now concerned.   Guess we need to buy more guns.  🙂

 

Very few problems in life that "buying more guns" won't solve.....😜

I think Socrates or Plato said that.....

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I wouldn't sell because of any unconfirmed problems with the P320 platform.  I am skeptical about the validity of the claims and have yet to see a video that clearly showed the gun going off in such a way that couldn't be explained by human error or a sloppy holster.

Gun shops are still selling P320s.  People are still buying P320s.  Negligent discharges seem to be rare and seem to be... negligent.  Until those things change, I don't see a reason to dump the platform unless you just want to do something different.

For what it's worth, people still have negligent discharges with Glocks and other platforms too.  You just don't hear about them because it doesn't feed into the drama.

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I have one that's M18 variant that I messed around with, wilson combat grip, DPM recoil, philster holster, I probably will end up selling it. Just sits in the safe and I'll need the cash.

It's fun to shoot, just not something I would carry.

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There have been multiple videos of uncommanded discharges of P320s where the owner was doing nothing at all except wearing a holstered P320.  It seems to be increasingly clear that there is some design or manufacturing flaw in play here; leading theories are that there is tolerance stack of the striker and sear in some guns, and also an ineffective firing pin block as well. 

SIG's position of doubling down that nothing is wrong with the P320 is going to make or break them on this, but with mounting evidence and no replicable-upon-demand cause, I wouldn't put my money on them at this point. 

Personally, I have an older P320 I use for carry and I have worked it over from multiple angles with a rubber mallet to satisfy myself that the sear will hold the striker.   Out of an abundance of caution, I would advise my friends to carry something else for a while until this issue is tracked all the way down.

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I remember in the 90’s when many police departments didn’t allow Glocks because they were thought to be dangerous.  No one around here carried them.  Memphis was S&W and then Sig.  Shelby County was Beretta and then Sig.  Bartlett was Sig.  Germantown was H&K.  
I say that all of that to point out that the same rhetoric was being said about Glock back then.  The ND’s kept coming back to a bad holster or a finger on the trigger. 
As a former police officer, I can tell you that a negligent discharge would be very detrimental to your career.  I strongly believe that this is a factor in the police ND’s.  Amazing that the largest military in the world doesn’t seem to have trouble with the 320. 

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On 4/16/2025 at 7:02 PM, TGO David said:

I wouldn't sell because of any unconfirmed problems with the P320 platform.  I am skeptical about the validity of the claims and have yet to see a video that clearly showed the gun going off in such a way that couldn't be explained by human error or a sloppy holster.

Gun shops are still selling P320s.  People are still buying P320s.  Negligent discharges seem to be rare and seem to be... negligent.  Until those things change, I don't see a reason to dump the platform unless you just want to do something different.

For what it's worth, people still have negligent discharges with Glocks and other platforms too.  You just don't hear about them because it doesn't feed into the drama.

Yep. If there is a problem, it should be duplicatable. 

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3 hours ago, JustEd said:

Yep. If there is a problem, it should be duplicatable. 

"Can't be duplicated from gun to gun" implies faulty parts or tolerances, as opposed to faulty design.  It is highly concerning that the striker safety is not always catching the striker in the video Ken posted.  

Back in the 90s, Glock was chastised as being unsafe, but Glock simply produced a mechanically sound gun whose design exacerbated lousy gun handling habits.  I don't think the 320 issues can be compared to the Glock issues of yesteryear.  

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The real issue here is not the actual trigger, (although that didn’t help) it’s this:

 

If you tear down a bunch of these guns and look at what’s going on in there, you will find in the case of a P320 is that there is one and only one thing preventing the striker from traveling under loaded spring pressure, and that one thing is holding on by approximately the thickness of your finger nail. The amount of engagement is less than the sum of the stacked tolerances of play between parts from itself to the frame.
 

Which means I don’t believe it is true that all of these guns going off were simply dropped. Which means the updated trigger didn’t, and cannot, fix the issue. The gun needs a total redesign. There’s no one or two parts you can change in that pistol that can fix it.

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I stopped into a shop tonight and was looking at other potential carry guns, and the gun showed me a P365 and I laughed and said I’m replacing my P320.  His immediate comment was “I wouldn’t carry that thing near my balls.”   I agreed.

Fun to shoot at the range, but am too worried about it to carry it daily.

So that really is my question.  What’s a reasonably priced gun for daily carry.   

I was thinking about this, as being a GOA member I get $50 off.  But damn is it ugly.

https://www.classicfirearms.com/canik-mete-mc9-goa-limited-edition-micro-compact-9mm-pistol-black-15-1-capacity-3-18-barrel-optic-ready-holster-2-mags-hard-case-full-accessory-pkg-hg7620goa-n/

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I think the Canik is a solid choice. So are a Glock, a Walther, a CZ, a FN and a S&W M&P. Point being, there are a lot of well built, successful pistols out there, that are equal to or better than the 320. Why futz around and take a chance?

Also, someone asked why you don’t hear about the Military having issues with the M17/18. I’d remind everyone that the M18 has a manual safety, which soldiers are trained to leave on until told to take it off in training. As far as combat, I doubt there have been many that have seen actual service in a war zone. Just too new. So who really knows if there are issues or not.

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MC9 is g2g. I carry mine and I've got lots of range time with it. Only malfunctions I've had so far was due to hard primers and a couple limp wrists. Love that thing. It is a bit small though if you've got monster hands. The MC9LS or MC9L utilize a substantially larger grip about the size of a G17. 17+1 capacity for those models, 12+1 for the OG.

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19 hours ago, deerslayer said:

"Can't be duplicated from gun to gun" implies faulty parts or tolerances, as opposed to faulty design.  It is highly concerning that the striker safety is not always catching the striker in the video Ken posted.  

Back in the 90s, Glock was chastised as being unsafe, but Glock simply produced a mechanically sound gun whose design exacerbated lousy gun handling habits.  I don't think the 320 issues can be compared to the Glock issues of yesteryear.  

Yeah, I pretty much discarded the validity of that video when he was poking parts in a partially disassembled gun

If the design or manufacture is a problem it should be duplicated with the SAME gun in which the un-commanded  discharge happened   Then we can see what is wrong and Why it is wrong

Until then, am believing it is cya or an altered weapon (trigger job).

 

 

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4 hours ago, JustEd said:

Yeah, I pretty much discarded the validity of that video when he was poking parts in a partially disassembled gun

I get it, but his experiment created more questions than it answered.  The repeated failure of the firing pin safety especially can’t be ignored.  Either it works or it doesn’t, and his didn’t.  SIG needs to explain why. 

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Think this thread has pretty much polarized opinions

What I was saying is that if you can not duplicate the problem with a unaltered gun then there is nothing for Sig to address

Then again, reputations good or bad are often based in opinion   Still feel there is an element of Sig bashing going on

I still feel safer carrying my P320 in a Blackhawk holster than my 1911 cocked and locked in a similar holster

jmo

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14 hours ago, Moped said:

I think the Canik is a solid choice. So are a Glock, a Walther, a CZ, a FN and a S&W M&P. Point being, there are a lot of well built, successful pistols out there, that are equal to or better than the 320.

I have a 320’s that I’m not concerned about, but if one does not want one for any reason, 100% agree with this. Competition and manufacturing standards give so many great options in that size class.

The one mention that immediately jumped out to me and I would recommend to anyone passing on A 320 is the S&W M&P. Specifically in 3.6” compact. It’s a bit of a misnomer in that it’s got a full purchase grip (hair more than a G19) with good ergo’s.  standard 15 round mags or can run the full size’s 17’s. They are great shooters, reliable, and perfect size imo. Very similar to a 320 xcompact but a bit more concealable. And of course, a good deal of aftermarket fiddly bits if you are so inclined.

 

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Since you asked for opinions, here's mine: SELL IT

If it ever did 'accidentally' go off and hurt you or your wife, you'd never forgive yourself because the P320 just going off is a 'thing' and you knew about it. It's not worth the risk when there are so many other great options out there that aren't just going off in holsters for no apparent reason.

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