School Shooting

[pop pop]

Nashville News Media reporting a school shooting at Antioch High School. Reporting 3 people shot, one being the shooter who shot himself. Not reporting any deaths yet. Reported this school is the most violent of all schools in the Metro School System. More incidences of violence, in this school, last school year. 

Edited to add; I guess one could say Antioch is a suburb of Nashville located within Davidson County. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:30 PM by pop pop

[pop pop]

Reporting 1 dead, two injured. 

The news aired the sound recording of the incident. Sounded like 3 shots fired to me. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:00 PM by pop pop

[pop pop]

Police Spokesman just said a 17 YO male shot 2 females. Reporting on injured, 2 dead. 

[papa61]

Wife works at JFK middle a short distance down the road. They are on lockdown. Hobson pike closed at the Wilson CO line. Three shot, two dead. one other student injured not by gunfire. I was already stressed and tired when I got the wife's text. Media coverage is too much. get out of the way, let parents pick up their children in relative peace. We will not find anything out today. Very saddened and upset by this though not a surprised in the least. Also going to say that having that many LEO standing around after the threat is eliminated is unneeded in my opinion. Only hindering getting those kids out and CSI getting their job done.

I worry for my wife's safety and this did not give me any warm fuzzy feelings. I have resisted the urge to reply to someone calling for state Republicans to enact gun control. I mean, 17 year old in possession of a handgun on school property, not like that's against any current laws is it?

[Defender]

1 hour ago, papa61 said:

 I mean, 17 year old in possession of a handgun on school property, not like that's against any current laws is it?

Well, true but if we could just get a new law passed that said 17 year olds can’t shoot anyone on school property, that’d stop it.

 

I'm sorry, i shouldn't joke around, this isn’t a joking matter as two kids won’t be coming home today.

Edited Wednesday at 10:21 PM by Defender

[papa61]

2 hours ago, Defender said:

Well, true but if we could just get a new law passed that said 17 year olds can’t shoot anyone on school property, that’d stop it.

 

I'm sorry, i shouldn't joke around, this isn’t a joking matter as two kids won’t be coming home today.

It isn't funny but what you said is true. Some Nashville politician was on the news a few minutes ago and said she didn't want to politicize these deaths but the GOP needs to do something to stop this. Is that not politicizing it? They also said this is not the first time this student took a gun to school. I don't know what or when but where is zero tolerance? 

[Grayfox54]

Nothing official yet, but I don't think this is a school shooting per say. Teenage boy shoots teenage girl, bystander wounded. I'm thinking its likely a case of a murder/suicide. They just happened to be at a school. 

But I could be wrong and there's no telling how the media will spin it. 

 

[BigK]

5 hours ago, Grayfox54 said:

Nothing official yet, but I don't think this is a school shooting per say. Teenage boy shoots teenage girl, bystander wounded. I'm thinking its likely a case of a murder/suicide. They just happened to be at a school. 

But I could be wrong and there's no telling how the media will spin it. 

 

Based on what I've been hearing on the radio and reading, I think you nailed it. 

[pop pop]

The new common sense laws the antis are wanting to get passed will do nothing to stop this. Background checks and red flag laws, and on and on will do nothing to stop this from happening. I am not sure there is any law that could be passed that would stop attacks at schools. 

Edited to add; I just don't understand why a 17 Y O would want to kill himself!

Edited Thursday at 01:49 PM by pop pop

[Sleep profit]

No law will stop Evil or mentally deranged people who are determined In the end it will be the guns fault and people will move on till the next one Sad times where living in  Short of a return to God and love for your fellow man  I don’t have an answer 

[Hozzie]

1 hour ago, pop pop said:

I just don't understand why a 17 Y O would want to kill himself!

Because kids nowadays have zero coping skills.   This is what "everyone gets a trophy" gets you.

Edited Thursday at 03:21 PM by Hozzie

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WSM News just reported the school had a security system, developed through an AI backed system, and it was on when the shooter entered the cafeteria, but it did not detect the pistol nor alert anyone. The system was supposed to immediately alert Police and the office staff in the school. Total system failure.  

[Thearmededucator]

18 minutes ago, pop pop said:

WSM News just reported the school had a security system, developed through an AI backed system, and it was on when the shooter entered the cafeteria, but it did not detect the pistol nor alert anyone. The system was supposed to immediately alert Police and the office staff in the school. Total system failure.  

You cannot software or legislate this problem away. Once the attack begins, What you need is someone: 1) Armed 2) Present and 3) Willing to interdict if you want to save lives. 

[papa61]

3 hours ago, pop pop said:

WSM News just reported the school had a security system, developed through an AI backed system, and it was on when the shooter entered the cafeteria, but it did not detect the pistol nor alert anyone. The system was supposed to immediately alert Police and the office staff in the school. Total system failure.  

Not only the on site detection system failed. Somehow a very confused young man with murderous intent slipped through the human system undetected. Or ignored. I have to wonder who failed to follow through on prior knowledge?

[gregintenn]

Did this kid happen to have parents? I’ve not seen anything reported on that subject.

[Garufa]

32 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

Did this kid happen to have parents? I’ve not seen anything reported on that subject.

Does it matter anymore? This is 2025 and convincing the majority of Americans (and the entire planet) that it’s not the gun’s fault is futile.

Edited Friday at 12:43 AM by Garufa

[gregintenn]

6 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Does it matter anymore? This is 2025 and convincing the majority of Americans (and the entire planet) that it’s not the gun’s fault is futile.

It matters to me.

[pop pop]

IMHO, good and willing teachers need to step up and arm themselves to protect the kids. I know this is totally unpopular, but I just may help these situations. 

My kids, when in our local school, had a coach who carried every day. He was a former Vietnam Vet and Marine. This was back before everyone went ballistic over concealed carry and school and guns. He was the assistant principal, and I am sure the principal knew about it. His room was the very first room away from the office and he was on guard every day and they also had an SRO every day. One was in the lunchroom for the whole feeding time. The other was in the hall, close by the students, and next to the library where students congregated. This was shortly after the Columbine tragedy.  

If 10 or 15 well trained, and a well supervised safety team, then carriers could be in all the congregation (cafeteria, library, ETC) areas and there when bad things happen. It is working in Ohio and several other states. The Ohio school system says it is a great deterrent. These teachers have constant training paid for by the system and the individuals themselves. Could work here if the antis and bleeding hearts could bend a little, IMO. The state of TN already had money available and the law to back this program. It is the local districts that are not going along.  

I have to ask, how is their decisions working out for them now? I just can't understand these kids of today. Totally no coping skills. 

Edited to add; What is making a few these kids think this way now? Just so sad. 

Edited Friday at 01:55 PM by pop pop

[BigK]

The AP is reporting the shooter is a neo-Nazi white supremist?!

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-4ace11dd9a2897d93e901fdad2730b18

[gregintenn]

31 minutes ago, BigK said:

The AP is reporting the shooter is a neo-Nazi white supremist?!

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-4ace11dd9a2897d93e901fdad2730b18

And you are surprised?

[Garufa]

1 hour ago, BigK said:

The AP is reporting the shooter is a neo-Nazi white supremist?!

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-4ace11dd9a2897d93e901fdad2730b18

Sounds like something from The Dave Chappelle Show.

[BigK]

9 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Sounds like something from The Dave Chappelle Show.

I was thinking Clayton Bigsby too, but this kid wasn't blind, LOL

[threeshot]

1 hour ago, BigK said:

The AP is reporting the shooter is a neo-Nazi white supremist?!

https://apnews.com/article/nashville-school-shooting-4ace11dd9a2897d93e901fdad2730b18

I noticed that the Associated Press left out Candance Owens as an influence on the shooter.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14318197/nashville-school-shooter-manifesto-hitler-candace-owens-solomon-henderson.html

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14315485/solomon-henderson-antioch-high-school-shooting-motive-revealed-manifesto.html

[pop pop]

Turns out this kid was "well know" to Police in Nashville and within that school system as a problem child and has a history of run-ins with authority including the Police removing 2 handguns from his home in 2023. He actually published he was going to do this act, at that school, on a social platform, and live streamed the video of part of his shooting on that media as he did it. WSM just ran the facts and their findings on their news outlet this morning. 

Should we be surprised??? 

[papa61]

5 hours ago, pop pop said:

IMHO, good and willing teachers need to step up and arm themselves to protect the kids. I know this is totally unpopular, but I just may help these situations. 

My kids, when in our local school, had a coach who carried every day. He was a former Vietnam Vet and Marine. This was back before everyone went ballistic over concealed carry and school and guns. He was the assistant principal, and I am sure the principal knew about it. His room was the very first room away from the office and he was on guard every day and they also had an SRO every day. One was in the lunchroom for the whole feeding time. The other was in the hall, close by the students, and next to the library where students congregated. This was shortly after the Columbine tragedy.  

If 10 or 15 well trained, and a well supervised safety team, then carriers could be in all the congregation (cafeteria, library, ETC) areas and there when bad things happen. It is working in Ohio and several other states. The Ohio school system says it is a great deterrent. These teachers have constant training paid for by the system and the individuals themselves. Could work here if the antis and bleeding hearts could bend a little, IMO. The state of TN already had money available and the law to back this program. It is the local districts that are not going along.  

I have to ask, how is their decisions working out for them now? I just can't understand these kids of today. Totally no coping skills. 

Edited to add; What is making a few these kids think this way now? Just so sad. 

I have read this several times over the last couple hours while working. I've tried to convince myself not to comment. But Being quiet for decades got us here. So if I offend anyone it is not my intention, only sharing what I believe.
Firstly, when it is said "the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" most see mothers rocking the cradle. I see the liberals in government who have pushed for federal benefits and oversight of our education system from day care to graduate degree. Our education system is overseen by local, state, and federal boards made up primarily of people who went through the highly liberal higher education system. they have naturally pushed the liberal mindset further and further down the ladder until what parents believe is no longer relevant. If you have liberal beliefs that is your choice, I do not fault you for that. So please don't dump on me for believing my children shouldn't have your beliefs push down their throats.

Our state legislators while trying to do something productive in preventing this tragedy lost their backbone. This is a state law and they should have set standards, passed the law, and let the school employees decide what to do with it. It should have been obvious that no school system overseen by those taught by a liberal minded system would ever allow faculty to carry those inexcusable tools on campus. Local systems should have had no choice. Which tends to go the opposite of what I think about local control of schools but I believe school boards should be elected and accountable. Single heads of school systems should be as aware of the people that hired them by proxy as head coaches.

I wouldn't push anyone of our school faculty to be an armed defender of our students but I would pray that many took their responsibility that seriously.