Question about private in state sales.

[lowbud]

If both parties are TN residents can one person ship a firearm to the other without using a FFL?

I'm sure it's done.. but anyone know the fine print or legality of such..

[Smith]

Yes, but getting the carriers to do it is the trick. None will without a little cleaver maneuvering and an employee who actually knows their own policies. Transfers only have to happen when crossing state lines.

[Guest jos2f]

Yes, but getting the carriers to do it is the trick. None will without a little cleaver maneuvering and an employee who actually knows their own policies. Transfers only have to happen when crossing state lines.

Would a carrier HAVE to know what is being shipped? Heck, I'm paranoid if I ship jewelry or something similar and they know whats inside. Wondering rules in regards to an unloaded or even disassembled firearm

[Guest m&pc9]

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/long-guns/19958-legal-question-shipping-transfer.html

This might help

[Smith]

Would a carrier HAVE to know what is being shipped? Heck, I'm paranoid if I ship jewelry or something similar and they know whats inside. Wondering rules in regards to an unloaded or even disassembled firearm

Technically? Yes per BATF. However some have used cleaver alternative names for firearms to try and play the fringe. Don't know how legal or illegal that would be, but thats how it is. Now if it does not contain the serialized part then technically it is not a firearm, so that would not have to be declared. Some have even tried shipping a firearm "inoperable" by removing the firing pin etc. Again not saying what to do just letting you know what others have interepreted the laws to be. Do a search and you will find many threads on this subject and how others have managed shipping.

[pitt2magic]

I just tried to purchase a handgun from a TGO member near Memphis, he contacted UPS and they would only ship to an FFL.

Edited May 5, 2009 by pitt2magic

[Smith]

I just tried to purchase a handgun from a TGO member near Memphis, he contacted UPS and they would only ship to an FFL.

and that's the problem. Their policy says they will as long as it conforms with the Fed regs, but most reps will disagree at the counter. I gone even so far to talk to their legal department and they acknowledge their policy but hold up the counters choice in what they will ship and what they won't.

[gtssilver]

It is fine to ship a long gun in state by my mail/other carrier with out an FFL but a pistol requires an FFL no matter what.

[Guest bkelm18]

It is fine to ship a long gun in state by my mail/other carrier with out an FFL but a pistol requires an FFL no matter what.

Incorrect. You may ship a handgun directly to another person as long as it does not cross state lines and you are both residents of the same state.

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Edited May 5, 2009 by bkelm18

[Guest bkelm18]

Would a carrier HAVE to know what is being shipped? Heck, I'm paranoid if I ship jewelry or something similar and they know whats inside. Wondering rules in regards to an unloaded or even disassembled firearm

Yes it is federal law that you must notify the carrier that a firearm is contained in the package. There's no way around that, there aren't any cute catch phrases you could use instead of "firearm". Keep in mind that only the receiver/frame is considered the firearm, everything else is just parts.

Edited May 5, 2009 by bkelm18