United Healthcare CEO Assassination

[Chucktshoes]

1 hour ago, Snaveba said:

It sounds crazy and unrealistic, but it also could be completely plausible if this was his entire plan. 
 

Which is more likely:

a. Dude is upset with the health care system, wants to do something, wants to make a statement, wants to be a martyr, and maybe (likely) has some mental illness.

 

It’s pretty wild that we’re back in the ‘20s and Italians are committing Propaganda of the Deed. 

[Sleep profit]

19 hours ago, deerslayer said:

It would have terrible if one of those shots had missed the evil CEO and accidently hit Alvin Bragg.  

Yes just terrible indeed 

[Sleep profit]

On 12/9/2024 at 4:14 PM, Chucktshoes said:

 

called it. 3D Printed. 

That gun makes more sense than a Station 6. I wonder whom came up with that gun seems odd just to make up. Most people minds go to black gun equals Glock 

[Whisper]

There's a difference between a 3-D printed gun and an 80% build.  This gun looks like a P80 to me.  And no one has explained how you can 3-D print a threaded steel barrel on a home 3-D printer.

No photo of silencer yet; I'm guessing because it, despite police claims, it wasn't 3-D printed.  It was just home-built, like the home-built silencers for which plans are available all over the internet.

But it's important to cops and anti-gunners to demonize 3-D printing of weapons, which is why the phony claims of 3-D printing in this case are so numerous.

 

Edited December 11 by Whisper

[Chucktshoes]

1 hour ago, Sleep profit said:

That gun makes more sense than a Station 6. I wonder whom came up with that gun seems odd just to make up. Most people minds go to black gun equals Glock 

Google. The answer is most likely Google. It’s the first result when you do a search. 
 

[Chucktshoes]

1 hour ago, Whisper said:

There's a difference between a 3-D printed gun and an 80% build.  This gun looks like a P80 to me.  And no one has explained how you can 3-D print a threaded steel barrel.

No photo of silencer yet; I'm guessing because it, despite police claims, it wasn't 3-D printed.  It was just home-built, like the home-built silencers for which plans are available all over the internet.

But it's important to cops and anti-gunners to demonize 3-D printing of weapons, which is why the phony claims of 3-D printing in this case are so numerous.

 

I’m not sure if you’re being intentionally facetious, or are just unfamiliar with 3DP in the 2A space. My following comments are written to assume the latter  

Most 3DP firearms will require some amount of unserialized parts. In most designs, barrels and for pistols, slides, are still required for building a working gun. For a Glock style gun it’s pretty much all just printing of the frame with almost everything else being 3rd gen OEM compatible parts. 

Even the FTN.3 pistol suppressor only uses some 3DP parts and some other parts that are purchased  though we don’t know what design was used as there are other can designs which are fully printed and usually only good for a few rounds.

One of the biggest leaps forward in the space was the FGC-9 which was the very first design useable design that required the purchase of zero gun parts. The barrel was steel tubing rifled using a process known as electro-chemical machining. 
 

 

[Whisper]

17 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

I’m not sure if you’re being intentionally facetious, or are just unfamiliar with 3DP in the 2A space. My following comments are written to assume the latter  

Most 3DP firearms will require some amount of unserialized parts. In most designs, barrels and for pistols, slides, are still required for building a working gun. For a Glock style gun it’s pretty much all just printing of the frame with almost everything else being 3rd gen OEM compatible parts. 

Even the FTN.3 pistol suppressor only uses some 3DP parts and some other parts that are purchased  though we don’t know what design was used as there are other can designs which are fully printed and usually only good for a few rounds.

One of the biggest leaps forward in the space was the FGC-9 which was the very first design useable design that required the purchase of zero gun parts. The barrel was steel tubing rifled using a process known as electro-chemical machining. 
 

 

Thanks; my comments weren't as precise as they should have been.  I realize that some 3-D printed guns use unregulated actual gun parts and 3-D printed receivers, but most cops and the news media use the term "3-D printed guns" to promote fear of untraceable guns being made in basements with this evil new technology that must be regulated.  To be fair, some media outlets are reporting the murder weapon as being homemade, which seems to be accurate, but that's not the same as a 3-D printed gun.  If you buy an 80% receiver that requires only a drill press and a Dremel tool to finish, and then you buy the unregulated gun parts that are traditionally manufactured, you have a homemade gun, but not a 3-D printed gun.  This assassin appears to have used a P80, which would not have required any 3-D printed parts.   We'll learn more when someone who is actually knowledgeable about guns gets a chance to look at the murder weapon.  Still no photos available of the silencer yet, so we don't know much about it (although Bloomberg did report this morning that it is made of metal).

I did not know about the FGC-9; thanks for that info.

Cheers,

Whisper

[Chucktshoes]

18 minutes ago, Whisper said:

Thanks; my comments weren't as precise as they should have been.  I realize that some 3-D printed guns use unregulated actual gun parts and 3-D printed receivers, but most cops and the news media use the term "3-D printed guns" to promote fear of untraceable guns being made in basements with this evil new technology that must be regulated.  To be fair, some media outlets are reporting the murder weapon as being homemade, which seems to be accurate, but that's not the same as a 3-D printed gun.  If you buy an 80% receiver that requires only a drill press and a Dremel tool to finish, and then you buy the unregulated gun parts that are traditionally manufactured, you have a homemade gun, but not a 3-D printed gun.  This assassin appears to have used a P80, which would not have required any 3-D printed parts.   We'll learn more when someone who is actually knowledgeable about guns gets a chance to look at the murder weapon.  Still no photos available of the silencer yet, so we don't know much about it (although Bloomberg did report this morning that it is made of metal).

I did not know about the FGC-9; thanks for that info.

Cheers,

Whisper

I don’t disagree about the hyperventilating from the government and media types over it all. 
 

I do still think this was a 3DP frame though. There’s a few spots where you can see what appear to be print lines. But otherwise, yeah. All that you said is on point. 

[Alleycat72]

There are several 3D printed suppressors on the market now. They do require the cost prohibitive 3D printers that can print in steel and titanium. 

[Handsome Rob]

[Whisper]

4 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

I do still think this was a 3DP frame though. There’s a few spots where you can see what appear to be print lines. But otherwise, yeah. All that you said is on point. 

Sure looks like a P80 to me, but I've not seen a high-quality image, so you could be right.   I'll look online for better photos.  And we'll likely learn much more in the coming days.  

EDITED TO ADD:  A guy on a DIY forum who has built 3-D guns is saying that the gun in question is a Chairman Won printed clone of a Glock 19.  So, you appear to be correct that it's a 3-D printed frame and not a P80.

Cheers,
Whisper

Edited December 11 by Whisper

[OldIronFan]

Looks like a P80 to me as well.