Shooting at Trump rally?

[papa61]

2 hours ago, BigK said:

I read about others claiming it was staged too. How nuts do you have to be to think anyone would allow someone to shoot your ear from 130 yds away? Shows how illogical and blinded by hate some people can be.

a reputedly bad shot without optics at that

[BigK]

50 minutes ago, ianb said:

The claim of Devine intervention is a causal logical fallacy. The bullet missing Trump and killing an innocent very well may have been God's plan but there's no evidence to support that conclusion. There are other causes that could also have the same result. 

An evil man with murderous intent accurately fired a bullet that was headed right for another man's head, but at the last possible second the victim turned his head and the killshot became a flesh wound. I'd say that chain of events is all the evidence many of us need to believe that God saved him. God doesn't owe you any proof and neither do I.

[btq96r]

52 minutes ago, TGO David said:

That's a weird way of saying he survived an assassination attempt.

He'll know how to turn the assassination attempt to his advantage.  Was already starting when he realized the shooter missed by the images we saw.  He's very attuned to image presentation.  The timing of it with the convention is something I think he'll make use of as well.

[gregintenn]

2 minutes ago, btq96r said:

He'll know how to turn the assassination attempt to his advantage.  Was already starting when he realized the shooter missed by the images we saw.  He's very attuned to image presentation.  The timing of it with the convention is something I think he'll make use of as well.

I can’t see why he shouldn’t.

[BigK]

2 minutes ago, btq96r said:

He'll know how to turn the assassination attempt to his advantage.  Was already starting when he realized the shooter missed by the images we saw.  He's very attuned to image presentation.  The timing of it with the convention is something I think he'll make use of as well.

I hope they have that image on a tshirt soon for his campaign, so I can buy 4 or 5 of them.

[gregintenn]

1 hour ago, Alleycat72 said:

He was on stage a told the crowd to not miss next time.

I reckon I missed that.

[papa61]

2 hours ago, btq96r said:

Are we talking about the same Donald Trump?  Subdued isn't in his style...especially after he experiences some kind of massive and turbulent event and comes out in a better position.

Near death experiences change the way one thinks, and very quickly. Not saying it will change him in that respect but he is changed.

[NoBanStan]

4 minutes ago, papa61 said:

Near death experiences change the way one thinks, and very quickly. Not saying it will change him in that respect but he is changed.

This. Trumps knee jerk to Vegas was to ban bump stocks. The republican party has recently ditched 2A as part of their proposed platform and now their lead candidate nearly took one of the dome.

It ain't looking good for us peaceful folk who happen to have firearms.

[papa61]

7 minutes ago, btq96r said:

He'll know how to turn the assassination attempt to his advantage.  Was already starting when he realized the shooter missed by the images we saw.  He's very attuned to image presentation.  The timing of it with the convention is something I think he'll make use of as well.

Sadly, we live in a time when people regard image above qualifications. Therefore, even the best of people must be highly conscious of their image. I'd be pretty pumped too had I just missed death by a fraction.

[papa61]

4 minutes ago, NoBanStan said:

This. Trumps knee jerk to Vegas was to ban bump stocks. The republican party has recently ditched 2A as part of their proposed platform and now their lead candidate nearly took one of the dome.

It ain't looking good for us peaceful folk who happen to have firearms.

Unless dems get control of both legislative bodies the current SCOTUS has turned that tide. 

[btq96r]

7 minutes ago, papa61 said:

Sadly, we live in a time when people regard image above qualifications. Therefore, even the best of people must be highly conscious of their image. I'd be pretty pumped too had I just missed death by a fraction.

Some folks might see me making comments on this as knocking on Trump, it's not.  I admittedly think he's nowhere near someone I want to be President, but that's not relevant to any of what happened here.  He's a politician, image matters as you say.

Two things came to mind when I saw the images of him with the blood smears. 

1)  He has a political advantage from it.  Even if it's going to make Democrats less aggressive in how they go after him and his policies, that's something.  I think it'll bring his supporters out even more than anything else, which is the opposite of how Biden is losing enthusiasm in his base.

2)  The response he had was very human and indicative of his character.  He has always been a defiant type, and with the adrenaline flooding his system, he wanted to stand up and be seen as such.  Part of that is maybe it's hard to get a 6'3" guy who I assume can't bend over that well to keep his head down, but he very clearly saw the moment, even if it was a spontaneous reflex.

Edited July 15 by btq96r

[deerslayer]

17 minutes ago, NoBanStan said:

This. Trumps knee jerk to Vegas was to ban bump stocks. The republican party has recently ditched 2A as part of their proposed platform and now their lead candidate nearly took one of the dome.

It ain't looking good for us peaceful folk who happen to have firearms.

Or Trump may say, “Wow, guys with guns saved my life.”

And 2A is still part of the platform.  

 

 

[NoBanStan]

Someone took the time to sync up the various videos.
 

 

[NoBanStan]

4 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

Or Trump may say, “Wow, guys with guns saved my life.”

And 2A is still part of the platform.  

 

 

Here's to hoping

[GlockSpock]

29 minutes ago, NoBanStan said:

This. Trumps knee jerk to Vegas was to ban bump stocks. The republican party has recently ditched 2A as part of their proposed platform and now their lead candidate nearly took one of the dome.

It ain't looking good for us peaceful folk who happen to have firearms.

Careful. They'll down-vote you to oblivion!

[deerslayer]

2 minutes ago, NoBanStan said:

Here's to hoping

This theory is the latest attempt to discourage a few would-be Trump votes, like claiming that Trump was convicted of sexual assault - a known lie intended to plant some doubt.  Besides the rants of a few wackos, what evidence or indication is there that Trump suddenly became anti-2A?  It’s another idiotic conspiracy.  

[Grayfox54]

1 minute ago, deerslayer said:

 Besides the rants of a few wackos, what evidence or indication is there that Trump suddenly became anti-2A?  It’s another idiotic conspiracy.  

Oddly enough, other than MSM saying it was an AR-15, both sides have been uncommonly quiet about gun control. Usually after any shooting MSM goes right to gun control. Curious indeed? 

I seriously doubt Trump will go anti-gun. He knows very well who his base is and where they stand. 

[NoBanStan]

6 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

This theory is the latest attempt to discourage a few would-be Trump votes, like claiming that Trump was convicted of sexual assault - a known lie intended to plant some doubt.  Besides the rants of a few wackos, what evidence or indication is there that Trump suddenly became anti-2A?  It’s another idiotic conspiracy.  

I'm not sure how it would take away Trump votes though. The republicans MIGHT be less 2A friendly now. But we KNOW the democrats are.

[papa61]

40 minutes ago, btq96r said:

Some folks might see me making comments on this as knocking on Trump, it's not.  I admittedly think he's nowhere near someone I want to be President, but that's not relevant to any of what happened here.  He's a politician, image matters as you say.

Two things came to mind when I saw the images of him with the blood smears. 

1)  He has a political advantage from it.  Even if it's going to make Democrats less aggressive in how they go after him and his policies, that's something.  I think it'll bring his supporters out even more than anything else, which is the opposite of how Biden is losing enthusiasm in his base.

2)  The response he had was very human and indicative of his character.  He has always been a defiant type, and with the adrenaline flooding his system, he wanted to stand up and be seen as such.  Part of that is maybe it's hard to get a 6'3" guy who I assume can't bend over that well to keep his head down, but he very clearly saw the moment, even if it was a spontaneous reflex.

he has a big mouth and needs to leave the social media to a specialist. In other words, he and I would not be friends even if I like what he says. I would also not knock him for the things we disagree on. He would also not be my first GOP choice.

This attempt on his life can only help his campaign as JB has always appeared weak. Remember, appearance over substance.

[papa61]

18 minutes ago, Grayfox54 said:

Oddly enough, other than MSM saying it was an AR-15, both sides have been uncommonly quiet about gun control. Usually after any shooting MSM goes right to gun control. Curious indeed? 

one report compared the AR15 to an M4. Another stated the rifle was nothing special. I have heard comments about the young man living in a "gun culture". JB's handlers know better than to push his "assault rifle" ban in a time like this as even MSM has said LEO can't be everywhere always and you can't stop a lone wolf. The underlying tone is there but left unspoken. probably intentionally to keep GOP from bringing up the dems who said DJT would be the end of democracy and needed to be dealt with sic.

[TGO David]

1 hour ago, BigK said:

I hope they have that image on a tshirt soon for his campaign, so I can buy 4 or 5 of them.

Donald Trump - Missed Me - T-Shirt – Nine Line Apparel

[Darrell]

That didn't take long.  ^^^^^

[deerslayer]

32 minutes ago, NoBanStan said:

The republicans MIGHT be less 2A friendly now.

What specifically makes you think this?

[NoBanStan]

6 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

What specifically makes you think this?

Grabbed the first link on google about it. https://reason.com/2024/07/10/the-2024-gop-platform-offers-only-a-passing-reference-to-the-second-amendment/

I've seen this in a few places though, including on the forum. Working at present, so i'm not gonna track it down.

*edit* From my lens, if the GOP isn't bolstering support, they aren't doing enough. IMHO

Edited July 15 by NoBanStan

[BigK]

12 minutes ago, Darrell said:

That didn't take long.  ^^^^^

Speaking of "that didn't take long"^^^^^^^