Do y’all have any favorite FFL’s that fair offer trades on firearms ?

[Rob Gray]

Hello all! I hope it’s okay to post this here. I’m really not trying to spark a sale. With today’s crazy laws I’m a bit paranoid to sell in the private sector. With that, do you guys have any ‘go-to’ ffl’s that offer a fair price? I’m in the Middle Tennessee area. I’m starting to find my way around lol I do have Bullseye and Outpost Armory right around the corner and both said they will purchase or trade, I’m just not sure if one or the other is a thumbs up or down yet. Thanks in advance. 

[LangdoniousRex]

It's like trading in a car to the dealership. You're not going to the same money as private party because they've got overhead. Since prices fluctuate regularly, you have to go in and see what they will offer you at that time. 

[Grayfox54]

They can't offer fair value because they have to resell at a profit. As mentioned, they also have overhead to consider. Generally, a FFL might give half of what they gun is actually worth. 

No laws against sales between private citizens in Tennessee. People do it all the time. I would suggest that you and buyer fill out a bill of sale just in the rare case that questions might be asked. 

[gary_boom]

I’ve sold several guns here on the classifieds and a few at a local gun shop on consignment. I will admit to being paranoid and not wanting to deal with the calls and texts. 

[Gurn]

Outpost always seems to have a larger selection of used guns compared to other places. They also do consignments. I don’t know what the particulars are but I guess you could just about ask what you want. 

[Patriotsson]

Bill of sale and looking at a valid carry permit is how I usually do any sales.

I always look at number of post and any feedback. Most ppl on this forum have been amazing ppl! 

 

[deerslayer]

Trading in a gun = you will get hosed

If you don’t want to deal with selling, maybe try consignment at a local shop.  I have had good luck with consignment over the years.  Some stores have dumb consignment policies - their X% on top of what you want out of it is pretty high and sometimes makes the gun too expensive or your share of the sell too low.  Other shops are pretty reasonable with their share of the sale.  

[Snaveba]

I have bought and sold many firearms through this group. Actually, selling a pistol is what brought me here.  
 

Hang around a while, participate in discussions, become a benefactor, and post what you want to sell. 

You will likely find a buyer for whatever you are selling and you will get a lot more than selling to an FFL. If you are worried about the whole private sales thing, you can make a sale through an FFL. That will cost a little more (or take from the sales price) but still likely be better than selling outright to a gun shop. 

[Rockmup]

I'm new here too but most of these guys/gals have been decent about me selling stuff.

Put an ad up and see what happens 
 

[Rob Gray]

Thanks everyone, I appreciate all the thoughts and ideas.

[gregintenn]

What laws have you afraid to sell a firearm?

[LangdoniousRex]

35 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

What laws have you afraid to sell a firearm?

Probably ghost laws because they are scary like ghost guns

[Rob Gray]

On 6/26/2024 at 4:15 PM, gregintenn said:

What laws have you afraid to sell a firearm?

I’m not afraid of the laws, I just don’t want to break one. I have talked to two different local FFLs here locally and have received two different definitions of selling to a private party. I think probably meeting at a FFL and running a background check is the safest option. 

 

Edited June 28 by Rob Gray
Clarification

[Snaveba]

What exactly has an FFL told you to make you worry about a private firearm transfer? 
 

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/whom-may-unlicensed-person-transfer-firearms-under-gca

 

[Ronald_55]

Pretty simple. You meet another TN resident that you have reason to believe and professes that they are legal to own a firearm. You trade or sell them a gun. That is the law's requirement. 

Id viewing and bill of sales make some people feel better but are not required.

[DJTC45]

7 hours ago, Rob Gray said:

I’m not afraid of the laws, I just don’t want to break one. I have talked to two different local FFLs here locally and have received two different definitions of selling to a private party. I think probably meeting at a FFL and running a background check is the safest option. 

 

The ATF can only suggest a change, they have no authority to make a law that is up to Congresses to pass any laws. Selling to an individual here or anywhere in TN is legal, but you have the right to use an FFL to do the transaction if that is what you specify to sell your gun. I will say that I don't have a problem with doing that but if someone wants me meet then at the FFL then he's going to pay my part in the paperwork and transfer fee that the FFL Dealer charges.

[Snaveba]

5 hours ago, DJTC45 said:

The ATF can only suggest a change, they have no authority to make a law that is up to Congresses to pass any laws. Selling to an individual here or anywhere in TN is legal, but you have the right to use an FFL to do the transaction if that is what you specify to sell your gun. I will say that I don't have a problem with doing that but if someone wants me meet then at the FFL then he's going to pay my part in the paperwork and transfer fee that the FFL Dealer charges.

When I have sold rifles/shotguns out of state, I usually specify they the buyer is responsible for all FFL related fees.

However, if it was a local in-state transaction, and I was the buyer, I agree it would likely be the opposite (seller pays fees) unless the firearm was a really good deal, or I really wanted it.  
 

I also recognize that the first time you do a private transaction, it is a little odd feeling. I don’t typically worry with the “private bill of sale”  but I have no problem signing one.  I have used them for handgun and AR sales. 

[BigK]

13 hours ago, Rob Gray said:

I think probably meeting at a FFL and running a background check is the safest option. 

I may be wrong, but I doubt you'll get a lot of buyers willing to go to an FFL and submit to a background check to buy a used gun. The law doesn't require background checks or bills of sale for a private sale.

[NoBanStan]

13 hours ago, Rob Gray said:

I’m not afraid of the laws, I just don’t want to break one. I have talked to two different local FFLs here locally and have received two different definitions of selling to a private party. I think probably meeting at a FFL and running a background check is the safest option. 

 

Feels like you're overthinking this. First time? Are you offloading a truckload of firearms or something?

There's really not much to it. Meet the buyer in an open, public space during the daytime, ask them for ID to make sure they are a resident. You can even go so far as to ask them if they are legally allowed to own a firearm or say that a bill of sale is a requirement, though a lot of folks will frown at this.

Personally, I just meet up with TGO'ers that have good rep. So far so good.

[threeshot]

For in-same-state sellers that require FFL background checks, I doubt sellers will pay for the buyer's fee for the FFL background check since the buyer may get legitimately or by error rejected.

[NoBanStan]

3 hours ago, BigK said:

I may be wrong, but I doubt you'll get a lot of buyers willing to go to an FFL and submit to a background check to buy a used gun. The law doesn't require background checks or bills of sale for a private sale.

Dead on.

The ONLY reason I think anyone would volunteer for this is if the firearm was exceedingly rare and this was the toll gate to acquiring it. If it's like a glock or something, real unlikely.

[BigK]

4 minutes ago, NoBanStan said:

 If it's like a glock or something, real unlikely.

Maybe a CZ or a Sig, but definitely not a Glock. LOL 

[gregintenn]

Here is what is required to sell a firearm in Tennessee to another individual. If you do not have reason to believe the buyer is under age, a convicted felon, or otherwise legally unable to purchase a firearm, you can sell to them. That’s it! He hands you the money, you hand him the firearm. You then both go your separate ways. The end.

 

I’ve bought and sold enough firearms via private individuals to stock a good gun show. Never a single problem. Legal gun owners are as good a group of people to deal with as you will ever find.

There is NO legal requirement on you as a seller to do any research on the buyer. If you do not have knowledge of them being legally unable to purchase the firearm, the onus is on them; not you.

Edited June 30 by gregintenn