Restaurant Carry

[Guest vandutton]

Just pass the bill already

Something is wrong in a world where a person could carry at 11:00pm but turns into a law-breaker if they do the exact same thing at 11:01pm

Then again, as someone has pointed out, what are the odds of a person being at a restaurant at 11pm and not drinking? Has rarely, if ever, happened in my personal experience

Actually, I've done just that on occcasion. When I was in college, dinner came anywhere between 4pm and 2am, depending on the day of the week. I would run to Applebee's or something like that for a burger that doesn't taste awful. And I rarely drank at that point, since I had class the next day (Weird... responsible 22 year old kid...).

[G27]

if the two that were not present would have shown up and voted NO on the nonconcur then it would have all be good and would have been sent to the Gov's desk - I think.

Actually, they were present, just abstained from voting.

I can't wait to see who those were.

[waynesan]

I posted the OP when I realized this bill was on the schedule for today and could not find where anyone else had already done so.

Since I worked nights last night I had to go to bed right after I posted the OP. A few minutes ago I got up and logged on and read this thread from start to finish without knowing the outcome first. This was a fun way to learn what happened today. Following the play-by-play really got my adrenaline going. Before the final vote I halfway expected Jack Bauer to come running into the Chamber and take Nafieh hostage and force everyone to vote the right way. Too bad that was not the case.

If this goes to the conference committee, does anyone know how the members are selected to be a part of that? You would think, at the very least, the sponsor of the bill would have the sayso in who goes to work on his bill.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

guys, this is really for the best. This is what I thought would happen all alone. It will get to the committee and they will put the age restriction in it and it will be good to go.

We didn't have enough votes to override a veto... we will with the age restriction.

[Guest jos2f]

Actually, I've done just that on occcasion. When I was in college, dinner came anywhere between 4pm and 2am, depending on the day of the week. I would run to Applebee's or something like that for a burger that doesn't taste awful. And I rarely drank at that point, since I had class the next day (Weird... responsible 22 year old kid...).

You do have a point. I didn't realize many places served real food that late into the night.

Then again, I wasn't old enough to own a pistol by the time I graduated college so those midnight dinner runs are behind me

[Guest db99wj]

Damn, had to go to lunch, missed all of it. Well hopefully committee will take care of it. Any idea on when that takes place?

[Guest db99wj]

You do have a point. I didn't realize many places served real food that late into the night.

Then again, I wasn't old enough to own a pistol by the time I graduated college so those midnight dinner runs are behind me

Don't forget there are a lot of people that work 2nd and 3rd shifts that would like to go out to lunch/dinner/breakfast .

[Volzfan]

guys, this is really for the best. This is what I thought would happen all alone. It will get to the committee and they will put the age restriction in it and it will be good to go.

We didn't have enough votes to override a veto... we will with the age restriction.

I hope that you are right!

Edited April 23, 2009 by GLOCKMEISTER

[Guest truthsayer]

Don't forget there are a lot of people that work 2nd and 3rd shifts that would like to go out to lunch/dinner/breakfast .

There are a few of us that that make our living in bars, get paid in cash, and have to work from 10p-2a.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

I hope that you are right!

everything will be fine you will see....

[Guest SomeGuy]

We didn't have enough votes to override a veto...

In Tennessee we only need a majority to over-ride the veto. In other words, 50 Reps.

This shows us one thing - who our friends really are. In the past we had 65-66 Reps signing on for CLEAN bills. We now know about 20 of our so called supporters most definitely are not.

That said, this was NOT in our best interests, contrary to the opinion of another poster, however we can recover. I just hope we don't get screwed in the Conference. The Senate will likely be on our side, it is the House I wonder about.

[GLOCKMEISTER]

ooops, yea you are right, but the thing is we didnt have the votes in the house to pass the bill the way it was. And if you barely had enough to pass it then you cant have the majority to overide the veto, the Gov. will usually pull a few votes back.

Im just happy getting a Restaurant carry bill with an age restriction... the curfew will be dropped.

Edited April 24, 2009 by GLOCKMEISTER

[Guest HexHead]

I sure hope we're not going to get screwed for not insisting the Senate just accept the House bill.

Once it goes to committee to be "worked out", does the House or Senate have to vote to accept it again?

[Guest nraforlife]

Just pass the darn thing. Work to get it changed next session when everyone see's that there have been no issues.

[Fallguy]

I sure hope we're not going to get screwed for not insisting the Senate just accept the House bill.

Once it goes to committee to be "worked out", does the House or Senate have to vote to accept it again?

Yes, both chambers would have to vote on whatever the conference committee comes up with.

[Falcon1]

I sure hope we're not going to get screwed for not insisting the Senate just accept the House bill.

Once it goes to committee to be "worked out", does the House or Senate have to vote to accept it again?

Yes, both chambers would have to vote on whatever the conference committee comes up with.

Naifeh is working behind the scenes, I bet...he may just come up with a way to kill this thing. I certainly hope not, but I guarantee you he has been burning the midnight oil on coming up with creative ways to kill this.

Just pass the darn thing. Work to get it changed next session when everyone see's that there have been no issues.

I cannot disagree.

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

Nothing is certain of course, but I have it on fairly good authority that this bill will be passed next week. What we saw on Thursday in the house with the nonconcur vote was pretty much expected and more or less necessary to get this thing done. I would say that I will post more when I know more, but most likely there won't be a need because I am pretty sure its all over but the crying (Naifeh crying) at this point.

[G27]

*fingers crossed*

[Guest MediaBuster]

I used to be worried about petty things like this bill, until I saw that Obama was making his boldest move towards socializing our banks (and therefore our country) yesterday.. He's moving to have the "preferred stock" the government took from over 500 financial institutions in exchange for bailout money to "common" stock, which would give the Government Board Member style "Voting Powers" at all the banks, to the tune of about 50% of the vote. This means they will run the banks & influence their biggest decisions on almost everything, including who they lend to.

Phoenix Conservative Examiner: Obama's plan would socialize banking industry

So you see, if this keeps up, it won't matter if you're allowed to carry a shotgun in a bar to protect yourself 24/7, because the bigger threat to you will be the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT..

People in this country better wake up.. Be sure to confirm this story. It's not TIN HAT:tinfoil:, & if we don't stop it, this country's freedom is over with.

[Guest pws_smokeyjones]

MediaBuster

I agree with you, but isn't it possible that we have the ability to be concerned about/involved in both situations simultaneously?

[Guest MediaBuster]

MediaBuster

I agree with you, but isn't it possible that we have the ability to be concerned about/involved in both situations simultaneously?

I guess my point is, that once Obama has ignored the Constitution to the degree that he officially turns our country into a socialist nation, it will be time to ignore "Gun Laws" anyway. I mean we know for a fact that most of Obama's "Acorn" voters do..

[Guest SomeGuy]

Remember, the NAY vote was the PRO-gun vote. This was a motion to NOT agree with the Senate, and voting yes meant not accepting the clean bill. The PNV are fence-sitters. One was a Republican from a rather conservative district I may add.

Representatives voting aye were: Armstrong, Barker, Bass, Borchert, Brooks H, Brown, Casada, Coley, Curtiss, Eldridge, Favors, Ferguson, Fincher, Ford, Fraley, Hackworth, Hardaway, Harmon, Harrison, Haynes, Litz, Lollar, Maddox, Maggart, McCord, McCormick, McDaniel, McDonald, McManus, Montgomery, Mumpower, Odom, Pitts, Pruitt, Ramsey, Sargent, Shepard, Shipley, Sontany, Tidwell, Tindell, Turner M, Watson, Yokley, Mr. Speaker Williams -- 45.

Representatives voting no were: Bell, Bone, Brooks K, Camper, Campfield, Carr, Cobb C, Cobb T, Dean, DeBerry L, Dennis, Dunn, Evans, Faulkner, Fitzhugh, Floyd, Halford, Harwell, Hawk, Hensley, Hill, Johnson C, Johnson P, Jones S, Jones U, Kelsey, Kernell, Lundberg, Lynn, Matlock, Miller, Moore, Naifeh, Niceley, Rich, Richardson, Shaw, Stewart, Swafford, Towns, Turner L, Weaver, Windle, Winningham -- 44.

Representatives present and not voting were: Cobb J, Coleman -- 2

Note the underlined votes. It is not all inclusive, but those are votes I think that with enough pressure we might have had. Some, like McCormick and Mumpower, with more likelihood than others. How did you Rep vote, and did you expect it? I contacted mine, and he did the right thing. Edited April 24, 2009 by SomeGuy

[mac12]

:clap:Can you believe Naifeh voted pro-gun?

[Guest HexHead]

So you see, if this keeps up, it won't matter if you're allowed to carry a shotgun in a bar to protect yourself 24/7, because the bigger threat to you will be the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT..

People in this country better wake up.. Be sure to confirm this story. It's not TIN HAT:tinfoil:, & if we don't stop it, this country's freedom is over with.

Well, you don't want them to be able to come round you up when you're most vulnerable, eating at a restaurant do you?

[G27]

As I stated in the other thread, I've already ripped off an email to Lollar - I can't believe he voted to non-concur!

Grrrrr...