Memphis #1 again.

[Grayfox54]

Local news ran a story last night where the anti-gun group Everytown claims that according to FBI data Memphis is the #1 city for thefts of guns from vehicles. I'm not surprised. Memphis is notorious for vehicle break-ins anyway.  I've been preaching for years to never leave a gun in a vehicle. This report confirms that. 

https://wreg.com/news/local/memphis-leading-nation-in-guns-stolen-from-cars-report/

[Chucktshoes]

Your. 

Car.

Is.

Not.

A.

Holster!

[Omega]

26 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

Your. 

Car.

Is.

Not.

A.

Holster!

Which is why the "No Guns" signs having the force of law needs to be abolished.

[Alleycat72]

Blame 

The

Victim 

For

The 

Crime 

[Chucktshoes]

4 minutes ago, Alleycat72 said:

Blame 

The

Victim 

For

The 

Crime 

This is a BS excuse and always has been. A criminal who breaks into a car and steals a gun is 100% responsible for their actions. 
That doesn’t absolve the person who engages in a behavior with a predictable outcome for their poor decision making.

A woman should also be able to go get blackout drunk without the fear of being assaulted. That said, I’m going to educate my daughter on why she should never engage in that sort of behavior because a bad outcome is entirely predictable. 
 

[Alleycat72]

2 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

This is a BS excuse and always has been. A criminal who breaks into a car and steals a gun is 100% responsible for their actions. 
That doesn’t absolve the person who engages in a behavior with a predictable outcome for their poor decision making.

A woman should also be able to go get blackout drunk without the fear of being assaulted. That said, I’m going to educate my daughter on why she should never engage in that sort of behavior because a bad outcome is entirely predictable. 
 

I should be able to lay a gun on the hood of my car in downtown Nashville for 3 weeks. The guy that takes it is the criminal. My car/truck should not be required to be locked. My house should not be required to be locked. A woman should not be required to dress a sertain way to prevent rape. The person that rapes, murders, or steals shouldn't be suffered.

[Alleycat72]

You need to change your life because someone may be able to exploit it. 

[Alleycat72]

1984 anyone.

[Alleycat72]

The tornado victims in my home town are at fault for living in a town a tornado touched down in.

 

[Smith]

58 minutes ago, Alleycat72 said:

Blame 

The

Victim 

For

The 

Crime 

Well, follow the logic. The gun is the problem and it inherently corrupts and causes people not naturally prone to violence towards violent action. Humanity is inherently good and only corrupted by ignorance and the tools of ignorance (Communist Manifesto/Marxism). The gun is the corruptor. If you eliminate the corruptor, you will eliminate the problem of violence. Thus, people who have guns are guilty of association by bringing violence (via the gun) to society.

[Chucktshoes]

Thats all nice and fine, but here in the real world, risk mitigation is a part of life.
 

Failing to take reasonable measures to operate in the world in which we actually live only makes one an attractive target for the criminal element. At some point, it’s just acting as an accessory to the criminals by enabling them. 
 

Reminds me of the meme about the guy talking to his neighbor who says “the coyotes keep eating our cats.”

”Where do you get the cats?”

”The animal shelter.”

”Sounds to me like you’re just feeding the coyotes.”

Then the guys kid just runs away crying  

 

[papa61]

a. You should be able to do/not do a lot of things but the bleeding hearts have allowed the ne'er do wells free reign.

b. I have a lock box in my car for the offhand case of having to enter a building where firearms are not allowed.

c. I try hard to avoid entering said buildings. Most I won't enter without a subpoena.

d. With freedom comes responsibility.

[Alleycat72]

1 hour ago, Smith said:

Well, follow the logic. The gun is the problem and it inherently corrupts and causes people not naturally prone to violence towards violent action. Humanity is inherently good and only corrupted by ignorance and the tools of ignorance (Communist Manifesto/Marxism). The gun is the corruptor. If you eliminate the corruptor, you will eliminate the problem of violence. Thus, people who have guns are guilty of association by bringing violence (via the gun) to society.

Make a law that women have to cover their entire body because males cannot control themselves. If a woman gets raped after that it's her fault.  LOL

Now replace women with gun.

[Smith]

7 minutes ago, Alleycat72 said:

Make a law that women have to cover their entire body because males cannot control themselves. If a woman gets raped after that it's her fault.  LOL

Now replace women with gun.

I was agreeing with you by posting "their"  ideological thought with heavy sarcasm. 

[gregintenn]

2 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

This is a BS excuse and always has been. A criminal who breaks into a car and steals a gun is 100% responsible for their actions. 
That doesn’t absolve the person who engages in a behavior with a predictable outcome for their poor decision making.

A woman should also be able to go get blackout drunk without the fear of being assaulted. That said, I’m going to educate my daughter on why she should never engage in that sort of behavior because a bad outcome is entirely predictable. 
 

I’ve got to disagree with you here, boss. I know a girl who went to a New Year’s Eve party in Memphis, stayed the night in a hotel there, and woke up the next morning without a car. Should she have walked from Macon County to Memphis to have prevented that?

[Alleycat72]

31 minutes ago, Smith said:

I was agreeing with you by posting "their"  ideological thought with heavy sarcasm. 

I understand that. You can't ban me from the forum though.....LOL

[Chucktshoes]

1 hour ago, gregintenn said:

I’ve got to disagree with you here, boss. I know a girl who went to a New Year’s Eve party in Memphis, stayed the night in a hotel there, and woke up the next morning without a car. Should she have walked from Macon County to Memphis to have prevented that?

I wouldn’t have made that trip to Memphis in the first place because I understand the high risk of waking up without the car. Thats the kind of risk assessment I’m talking about here.  Did she cause her car to get stolen? No, but I hope she wasn’t surprised that it happened. 
 

https://wreg.com/news/investigations/driving-crime-more-than-22000-vehicle-thefts-in-memphis-in-2-years/

In Memphis, the risk of vehicle break in is so high as to be nearly a guarantee. So leaving a firearm in the car is tantamount to intentionally arming a criminal. When I lived in Midtown in Memphis, I had my car broken into 5 times in little over a two year period. If I left a firearm in my vehicle and it got stolen, any reasonable person would say that it was an entirely predictable outcome. 

This is honestly a very weird surprising take from a group of folks whom mostly carry guns because of the possibility of encountering someone who means them harm. I mean, I shouldn’t have to carry a gun everywhere I go, but I do because I’ve made an assessment of the risks and act accordingly. It’s kinda amusing since the odds of me having to use my gun are waaaaaaay lower than the odds of my car getting broken into in the Memphis metro. 
 

Folks can live in the world they imagine exists inside their mind, or they can live in the one outside their front door. I choose the latter. 

[krunchnik]

I also have a Hornady lock box cabled to the post under the drivers seat-would have to remove the seat or cut the cable to get the box-

I had my car broken into about 7 or 8 years ago-was sitting in my drive way-and I live in Lakeland-

They pilfered a toolbox and my jump pack but I try not to keep anything of much value in our autos-

[Garufa]

I am not offering an opinion here so back off if you don’t like what I’m about to say.

Since the state basically removed all restrictions on keeping firearms in vehicles, car break-ins have skyrocketed, especially Memphis because they’ll steal the stink out of #### there, but don’t you Nashville area or anywhere else folks get too smug, it’s happening everywhere and getting worse.

Fact, not opinion.

Edited May 11 by Garufa

[Spots]

I do my absolute best to not leave a gun in a vehicle. That said I have a lock box hidden behind my passenger seat with a floor mat over it, bolted to floor in a 2 door car. It doesnt make it 100% fool-proof, but it makes a big difference. Its also the same reason I wont put anything gun or outdoors related stickers on my car to keep it from being a target becauze they think a guns inside

[FUJIMO]

35 minutes ago, Garufa said:

I am not offering an opinion here so back off if you don’t like what I’m about to say.

Since the state basically removed all restrictions on keeping firearms in vehicles, car break-ins have skyrocketed, especially Memphis because they’ll steal the stink out of #### there, but don’t you Nashville area or anywhere else folks get too smug, it’s happening everywhere and getting worse.

Fact, not opinion.

Knoxvilles been hit hard in the last month for it. Chief Noel has been interviewed multiple times on his plan to slow it down.  Only going to get worse. React accordingly. 

[ArmyBrat61]

4 hours ago, Alleycat72 said:

Make a law that women have to cover their entire body because males cannot control themselves. If a woman gets raped after that it's her fault.  LOL

Now replace women with gun.

That womans name is Sharia.....and she is on her way here thanks to the Idiot in Chief. 

[gregintenn]

2 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

I wouldn’t have made that trip to Memphis in the first place because I understand the high risk of waking up without the car. Thats the kind of risk assessment I’m talking about here.  Did she cause her car to get stolen? No, but I hope she wasn’t surprised that it happened. 
 

https://wreg.com/news/investigations/driving-crime-more-than-22000-vehicle-thefts-in-memphis-in-2-years/

In Memphis, the risk of vehicle break in is so high as to be nearly a guarantee. So leaving a firearm in the car is tantamount to intentionally arming a criminal. When I lived in Midtown in Memphis, I had my car broken into 5 times in little over a two year period. If I left a firearm in my vehicle and it got stolen, any reasonable person would say that it was an entirely predictable outcome. 

This is honestly a very weird surprising take from a group of folks whom mostly carry guns because of the possibility of encountering someone who means them harm. I mean, I shouldn’t have to carry a gun everywhere I go, but I do because I’ve made an assessment of the risks and act accordingly. It’s kinda amusing since the odds of me having to use my gun are waaaaaaay lower than the odds of my car getting broken into in the Memphis metro. 
 

Folks can live in the world they imagine exists inside their mind, or they can live in the one outside their front door. I choose the latter. 

It shouldn’t be this way. Preventing, or at least deterring this type thing IS a reason for having a government. Since that no longer seems to be happening, what good is a government?

[Chucktshoes]

52 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

It shouldn’t be this way. Preventing, or at least deterring this type thing IS a reason for having a government. Since that no longer seems to be happening, what good is a government?

Have you ever heard the name Lysander Spooner?

[deerslayer]

Getting away from punishing lawbreakers and becoming a more coddle-the-felons jurisdiction has made things worse in Shelby County.