Question. for. collecting

[Sleep profit]

I have tried to look this up but couldn’t find a clear answer. In general with condition the same in revolvers are pre models or regular stamped models more valuable to collectors. or no difference at all    Or is it specific to the gun  

Edited November 13, 2022 by Sleep profit

[gregintenn]

I am going to assume you are referring to Smith and Wesson revolvers.

There isn’t a clear and concise answer to your question. I expect you already knew this. Often times, older means more valuable. Sometimes, a certain -number will be more desirable due to scarcity. Sometimes the newer, updated gun is the better quality firearm, and thus more desirable.

Quality, condition, desirability, and scarcity are what you’re looking for. Buy what you like and don’t sweat the small stuff.

Edited November 13, 2022 by gregintenn

[Grayfox54]

It depends a great deal on the gun and the collector. Collectors can specialize on a specific make or even a specific model. Some even break it down to certain years. Its all a matter of what you like. Believe it or not, there are people out there that collect Hi-Points and even RGs. 

In general the older the better and condition is everything. However, a hard to find gun in rough condition can be much more valuable than a brand new one. Another big consideration is originality. Modified or refinished guns lose a great deal of value over one in original condition. Even if that condition is rough as a cob. The exception being guns worked on by well known Master Gunsmiths. EX: an early Kings Gun Works full tilt target conversion can bring big bucks. 

I collect S&W revolvers. My own tastes are for early 1900s thru the 1980s. I have no interest in any that have MIM parts or that damned lock.  I simply will not own one. However, many S&W aficionados will happily grab the newest thing to hit the market. Especially Performance Center or Limited Edition guns. Again, its all about what interests you. 

OTOH, I tend to accumulate 1911s. Make, model or caliber doesn't really matter. If it strikes my fancy, I'll buy it. 

There is no pat answer. Its all about what you like. 

[Sleep profit]

7 minutes ago, Grayfox54 said:

It depends a great deal on the gun and the collector. Collectors can specialize on a specific make or even a specific model. Some even break it down to certain years. Its all a matter of what you like. Believe it or not, there are people out there that collect Hi-Points and even RGs. 

In general the older the better and condition is everything. However, a hard to find gun in rough condition can be much more valuable than a brand new one. Another big consideration is originality. Modified or refinished guns lose a great deal of value over one in original condition. Even if that condition is rough as a cob. The exception being guns worked on by well known Master Gunsmiths. EX: an early Kings Gun Works full tilt target conversion can bring big bucks. 

I collect S&W revolvers. My own tastes are for early 1900s thru the 1980s. I have no interest in any that have MIM parts or that damned lock.  I simply will not own one. However, many S&W aficionados will happily grab the newest thing to hit the market. Especially Performance Center or Limited Edition guns. Again, its all about what interests you. 

OTOH, I tend to accumulate 1911s. Make, model or caliber doesn't really matter. If it strikes my fancy, I'll buy it. 

There is no pat answer. Its all about what you like. 

Thanks.   I run into those hipoint and RG collectors a lot here in east Tn   LOL 

[Sleep profit]

59 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

I am going to assume you are referring to Smith and Wesson revolvers.

There isn’t a clear and concise answer to your question. I expect you already knew this. Often times, older means more valuable. Sometimes, a certain -number will be more desirable due to scarcity. Sometimes the newer, updated gun is the better quality firearm, and thus more desirable.

Quality, condition, desirability, and scarcity are what you’re looking for. Buy what you like and don’t sweat the small stuff.

Thanks   Again 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Sleep profit

[gregintenn]

1 hour ago, Sleep profit said:

Thanks.   I run into those hipoint and RG collectors a lot here in east Tn   LOL 

Not something I’d likely pursue, but I’d probably surprise you at what I’d pay for a set of every model and variation of Hi Point pistol manufactured to date. That would be a very unique collection in the future, and pay homage to an American company with the ability to manufacture inexpensive yet reliable weapons.

I had a great uncle who collected clocks. Not Glocks…clocks! Made no sense to me, but he was very proud of his large garage packed full of rare, expensive, and downright odd timepieces of yore.

Edited November 13, 2022 by gregintenn

[Sleep profit]

I count 7 different HI point pistols to date with variations  as many as they are at shows now the time to collect if you think they will gain value I would be a. little interested in the 10 mm carbine.for coyotes.   I do like the Black Forest clocks and Railroad timepieces tho 

[DocHawk]

I would have been impressed with Hi Point if they cost $10 more for a design that doesn't require a hammer and punch to break the gun down for basic cleaning. That's an unacceptable design and the resulting propensity for dirty Hipoints in the wild has led to many range failures of what would otherwise be a reliable, "can't argue with it if it works" gun. Using a hammer and punch for routine maintenance is beyond the average gun owner's skill and motivation.

[10-Ring]

On 11/13/2022 at 2:32 PM, Grayfox54 said:

Believe it or not, there are people out there that collect Hi-Points and even RGs. 

I'm on a Heritage Rough Rider Facebook page.  There are people on that page with a dozen+ Rough Riders.  One is plenty for me.  It's fine for throwing in the truck or on the 4 wheeler and not worrying about it, mine functions fine, but the accuracy leaves something to be desired.  I'm not bothering to got any of the black Friday sales where they will be available for $80 out the door.  I'd rather have a Ruger or a Smith than 10 Rough Riders, but to each his own. 

[gregintenn]

4 minutes ago, 10-Ring said:

I'm on a Heritage Rough Rider Facebook page.  There are people on that page with a dozen+ Rough Riders.  One is plenty for me.  It's fine for throwing in the truck or on the 4 wheeler and not worrying about it, mine functions fine, but the accuracy leaves something to be desired.  I'm not bothering to got any of the black Friday sales where they will be available for $80 out the door.  I'd rather have a Ruger or a Smith than 10 Rough Riders, but to each his own. 

I had one that was unbelievably accurate. You t was still made from ugly pot metal and looked like a kid’s cap gun, but for some reason it always hit precisely where it was pointed.