Authorities Want to Track Your Guns and Ammo Purchase

[i1afli]

This is why the Government wants to get rid of cash…so they’ll have a paper trail of all your purchases. 
https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/new-york-city-officials-urge-credit-card-companies-track-gun-ammo-sales-flag-suspicious-sales

[Rob112o]

35 minutes ago, i1afli said:

This is why the Government wants to get rid of cash…so they’ll have a paper trail of all your purchases. 
https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/new-york-city-officials-urge-credit-card-companies-track-gun-ammo-sales-flag-suspicious-sales

Cash is king

[bersaguy]

The Feds want to know about everything. Guns and ammo is just at the top of the list......JMHO

[James B]

Bump. FYI the big 3 payment processors agreed to this, and they're working to implement methods to tag and track firearms-related purchases. 

"For your safety" and so forth as per the usual uniparty line.

[Erich]

Pretty ridiculous stuff. 

 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/in-a-win-for-gun-control-advocates-visa-mastercard-and-american-express-plan-to-start-separately-categorizing-sales-at-gun-stores/ar-AA11GYRQ?cvid=466eb4eb47084a829dcd6b903b0e75c2

To save time, the nonsense  rhetoric:

influenced by gun control advocates, including US Senator Elizabeth Warren, who urged the CEOs of Mastercard, American Express, and Visa to make the change.

"Mass shooters have repeatedly financed deadly massacres using credit cards, and bank CEOs need to step up to save lives," Warren said.

In a statement to Insider, Mastercard said: "We understand and appreciate the significant policy imperative in reducing gun violence and see the recent bipartisan action in Congress as a positive step. We believe it is that type of effort that will meaningfully address the tragic gun violence facing the country."

[Moped]

This is all so stupid.  IF one purchases a firearm through a dealer, then one has to be fill out a 4473.  Of course, in most sane states, ammunition purchases are not tracked. Personally, I haven't used a credit card to buy my firearms and ammunition for a several years now.  Cash is king.  And I never order off the internet. Yes, it costs more, but there's also not much of a record to follow.  The only way they have to track me is though my internet searches.

[Snaveba]

24 minutes ago, Moped said:

 And I never order off the internet. Yes, it costs more, but there's also not much of a record to follow.  The only way they have to track me is though my internet searches.

And of course the TGO.

[Erich]

They are shameless in using any end-arounds as they chip away at the long term goal. 

But there are a couple delicious ironies in this one with their contradiction of liberal ideology.

It disproportionately effects the disadvantaged groups who liberals profess to love as they do not have surplus cash on hand and have to buy items on credit. 

Secondarily, it promotes more non trackable private party sales among the group they most detest, us law abiding conservative gun enthusiasts who clearly have to much money. While they would prefer to ‘redistribute’ that wealth to the group they are most effecting, they are simply having us pass it along amongst ourselves.

They didn’t think this one thru, not that one could ever accuse them of thinking versus over-reacting.

 

 

 

[Moped]

Don't got that we are likely to see the House and Senate go Blue in November.  If that happens, this really won't matter much...

[m16ty]

7 hours ago, Moped said:

Don't got that we are likely to see the House and Senate go Blue in November.  If that happens, this really won't matter much...

Do you mean go red? They are already blue.

[Moped]

On 9/15/2022 at 11:14 PM, m16ty said:

Do you mean go red? They are already blue.

Not blue enough yet.  Let them pick up one more senate seat and they can force an expansion of the SC. Right now, that's really the only thing protecting our gun rights as we know them today.

[piercedan]

Here is a link to a good video on this topic. 

 

[Grayfox54]

I saw a quick story on the local news tonight saying the TN AG is one of many state AGs across the country who have sent letters to the credit card companies protesting this new code. They seem to be concerned that it may violate Consumer Protection laws. 

 

[Grayfox54]

I got this in the Guns America e-mail this morning. Interesting read.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/tennessee-montana-lead-state-coalition-against-banks-credit-card-companies-tracking-and-monitoring-firearm-purchases/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20220923_FridayDigest_401&utm_campaign=/digest/tennessee-montana-lead-state-coalition-against-banks-credit-card-companies-tracking-and-monitoring-firearm-purchases/

[AuEagle]

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