Delaware lawmakers pass historic gun legislation, including ban on sale of assault weapons

[The Legion]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/delaware-lawmakers-pass-historic-gun-legislation-including-ban-on-sale-of-assault-weapons/ar-AAYzF8T?li=BBnb7Kz

Delaware lawmakers passed a series of bills late Thursday culminating in one of the most significant days for gun reform in recent Delaware history.

This package of bills – which included strengthening background checks, banning the sale of assault weapons and limiting high-capacity magazines – was introduced by Democrats earlier this month after a series of mass shootings including the one in Uvalde, Texas, in which a gunman shot and killed 19 elementary schoolchildren and two teachers.

Republicans have been against much of this legislation, often citing Second Amendment rights, the impact on small businesses and the need to improve school security. Republican leadership has also alluded to a possible legal fight if this legislation passed.

DELAWARE POLITICS: House Democrats fail to override governor’s weed veto, killing chances of legalization

The Senate voted on six pieces of gun reform legislation Thursday night, three of which now head to the governor, who has said he supports these bills. The votes came after prolonged debate from Senate Republicans, which stretched for several hours.

The Senate didn't recess until 12:13 a.m. Friday.

Two gun-related bills received overwhelming bipartisan support, including one to bring back state background checks for guns. Lawmakers say this legislation will reduce straw purchases and better identify those who are not allowed to own a gun. The federal background check, which is what is used now, can miss those with outstanding warrants or those convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence offenses.

All lawmakers in both the House and the Senate voted for this bill.

The rest of the Democratic-backed bills voted on in the Senate on Thursday night passed with a vote of 13-8. Sen. Bruce Ennis, D-Smyrna, was the only Democrat to vote against the bills.

For House Bill 450, the debate lasted for two hours and 20 minutes, significantly longer than the typical debate for most bills. The legislation would make it illegal to make, sell, purchase or possess assault-style weapons, including AK-47s and AR-15s.

This bill, which now heads to the governor’s desk, grandfathers currently owned weapons and protects owners from being misidentified as those breaking the law, and grants certain exceptions for law enforcement and military members.

Sen. Dave Lawson, R-Marydel, who is a former gun shop owner and police officer, engaged in an extended debate over the ban on the sale of assault weapons.

He asked pointed and technical questions of Democrats’ experts and criticized various aspects of the bill.

“The road to hell is paved by good intentions,” Lawson said at one point.

“The road was paved,” Sen. Nicole Poore, the bill’s co-sponsor, immediately responded, “when that young man … killed 19 kids and left them unidentifiable.”

The General Assembly also passed legislation that would define and ban "large-capacity magazines" as a firearm with a capacity to hold more than 17 rounds of ammunition.

This bill has gone back and forth between the Senate and House in the past year. When the House passed the Senate bill in 2021, representatives added amendments that would have allowed for the ownership of large-capacity magazines but include a stricter punishment if used in a crime. It also changed the definition of what the legislation defined as a “large-capacity magazine."

It then languished in the Senate due to many senators being frustrated with the House changes. The bill, Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 6, that passed in both chambers on Thursday is similar to the original Senate version, with some revisions.

It’s now expected to be signed by the governor.

One concern raised by Republicans was how this legislation could affect a Georgetown business that manufacturers magazines. Republican Sen. Brian Pettyjohn, who represents the area, introduced a bill this week that would allow a Delaware magazine manufacturer to sell and transport magazines as long as it is sold to people outside of the state.

Rep. Ruth Briggs King, R-Georgetown, previously introduced this as an amendment in a former version of the bill. This bill had overwhelming bipartisan support.

The Senate also passed two bills that will ban the use of devices that convert handguns into fully automatic weapons and hold manufacturers liable for negligent actions that lead to gun violence.

The latter of these two bills is named after Keshall “KeKe” Anderson, who at 19 was an innocent bystander in a 2016 shooting that resulted in her death. The gun involved in the shooting was purchased through a straw purchase. Both bills now head to the House.  

The Senate tabled HB 451, which would increase the purchasing age for most firearms to 21 years old. It’s expected to be voted on before the session ends June 30.

 

 

[krunchnik]

Yup-let's make it hard for the normal citizen to have these but it won't impede a criminal in the least-

There just are people that do not get it-willing to let their rights go bye bye-

I wonder how much of these bills are going to be unconstitutional-I think the Supreme Court already ruled on AR15 saying that banning did not pass Constitutional muster-

This is what happens when idiots vote-you get idiots in office-

 

[billyblazes]

Amazing how an AR-15 in the hands of a regular citizen is an "assault rifle" but as soon as the same gun is placed in the hands of a police officer it becomes a "patrol carbine."

[Grayfox54]

On a positive note: when this fails to stop any crime, we'll have proof that we can point to. 

[Trekbike]

5 hours ago, Grayfox54 said:

On a positive note: when this fails to stop any crime, we'll have proof that we can point to. 

The negative side to that is, the legislators don't look at it like that and see the errors of their ways.    They double down and say they didn't go far enough and move to enact more laws.    

Edited June 20, 2022 by Trekbike

[Erik88]

20 hours ago, billyblazes said:

Amazing how an AR-15 in the hands of a regular citizen is an "assault rifle" but as soon as the same gun is placed in the hands of a police officer it becomes a "patrol carbine."

I also love how certain groups will claim cops are evil and in the next breath will say only law enforcement should have AR-15's...

[Cruel Hand Luke]

Another good reason to avoid Deleware....

[krunchnik]

5 hours ago, Trekbike said:

The negative side to that is, the legislators don't look at it like that and see the errors of their ways.    They double down and say they didn't go far enough and move to enact more laws.    

This is the truth-skulls made of cement-

[Moped]

6 hours ago, Trekbike said:

The negative side to that is, the legislators don't look at it like that and see the errors of their ways.    They double down and say they didn't go far enough and move to enact more laws.    

They will use this to eventually go after the rest of firearms, including revolvers, hunting rifles and shotguns.  It's just a matter of time, unless we hold the line here.

[Kentuckymason1]

On 6/18/2022 at 11:50 AM, The Legion said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/delaware-lawmakers-pass-historic-gun-legislation-including-ban-on-sale-of-assault-weapons/ar-AAYzF8T?li=BBnb7Kz

Delaware lawmakers passed a series of bills late Thursday culminating in one of the most significant days for gun reform in recent Delaware history.

This package of bills – which included strengthening background checks, banning the sale of assault weapons and limiting high-capacity magazines – was introduced by Democrats earlier this month after a series of mass shootings including the one in Uvalde, Texas, in which a gunman shot and killed 19 elementary schoolchildren and two teachers.

Republicans have been against much of this legislation, often citing Second Amendment rights, the impact on small businesses and the need to improve school security. Republican leadership has also alluded to a possible legal fight if this legislation passed.

DELAWARE POLITICS: House Democrats fail to override governor’s weed veto, killing chances of legalization

The Senate voted on six pieces of gun reform legislation Thursday night, three of which now head to the governor, who has said he supports these bills. The votes came after prolonged debate from Senate Republicans, which stretched for several hours.

The Senate didn't recess until 12:13 a.m. Friday.

Two gun-related bills received overwhelming bipartisan support, including one to bring back state background checks for guns. Lawmakers say this legislation will reduce straw purchases and better identify those who are not allowed to own a gun. The federal background check, which is what is used now, can miss those with outstanding warrants or those convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence offenses.

All lawmakers in both the House and the Senate voted for this bill.

The rest of the Democratic-backed bills voted on in the Senate on Thursday night passed with a vote of 13-8. Sen. Bruce Ennis, D-Smyrna, was the only Democrat to vote against the bills.

For House Bill 450, the debate lasted for two hours and 20 minutes, significantly longer than the typical debate for most bills. The legislation would make it illegal to make, sell, purchase or possess assault-style weapons, including AK-47s and AR-15s.

This bill, which now heads to the governor’s desk, grandfathers currently owned weapons and protects owners from being misidentified as those breaking the law, and grants certain exceptions for law enforcement and military members.

Sen. Dave Lawson, R-Marydel, who is a former gun shop owner and police officer, engaged in an extended debate over the ban on the sale of assault weapons.

He asked pointed and technical questions of Democrats’ experts and criticized various aspects of the bill.

“The road to hell is paved by good intentions,” Lawson said at one point.

“The road was paved,” Sen. Nicole Poore, the bill’s co-sponsor, immediately responded, “when that young man … killed 19 kids and left them unidentifiable.”

The General Assembly also passed legislation that would define and ban "large-capacity magazines" as a firearm with a capacity to hold more than 17 rounds of ammunition.

This bill has gone back and forth between the Senate and House in the past year. When the House passed the Senate bill in 2021, representatives added amendments that would have allowed for the ownership of large-capacity magazines but include a stricter punishment if used in a crime. It also changed the definition of what the legislation defined as a “large-capacity magazine."

It then languished in the Senate due to many senators being frustrated with the House changes. The bill, Senate Substitute 1 for Senate Bill 6, that passed in both chambers on Thursday is similar to the original Senate version, with some revisions.

It’s now expected to be signed by the governor.

One concern raised by Republicans was how this legislation could affect a Georgetown business that manufacturers magazines. Republican Sen. Brian Pettyjohn, who represents the area, introduced a bill this week that would allow a Delaware magazine manufacturer to sell and transport magazines as long as it is sold to people outside of the state.

Rep. Ruth Briggs King, R-Georgetown, previously introduced this as an amendment in a former version of the bill. This bill had overwhelming bipartisan support.

The Senate also passed two bills that will ban the use of devices that convert handguns into fully automatic weapons and hold manufacturers liable for negligent actions that lead to gun violence.

The latter of these two bills is named after Keshall “KeKe” Anderson, who at 19 was an innocent bystander in a 2016 shooting that resulted in her death. The gun involved in the shooting was purchased through a straw purchase. Both bills now head to the House.  

The Senate tabled HB 451, which would increase the purchasing age for most firearms to 21 years old. It’s expected to be voted on before the session ends June 30.

 

 

Delaware is a communist state 

[Erik88]

Delaware has actually been fairly moderate compared to neighboring states. It's one of the only states up there that recognizes our TN carry permits. 

[btq96r]

I'm legit torn on if this one should get challenged all the way to SCOTUS.  It's not a huge loss to have Delaware off the map for AR ownership, as repugnant as the idea is, and a loss would embolden further bans.  But if the verdict in favor of assault rifles...that would be at least a generation, maybe two of some widely recognized freedom.

Kind of a no risk it, no biscuit scenario.

 

On 6/20/2022 at 10:41 AM, Cruel Hand Luke said:

Another good reason to avoid Deleware....

Even without this, the only good reasons to go there were setting up an LLC, and to attend arbitration proceedings.

 

On 6/22/2022 at 7:15 AM, Kentuckymason1 said:

Delaware is a communist state 

Not really.  They're just liberal on guns.  It's actually one of the most attractive and active states for setting up a Limited Liability Company due to their very favorable corporate laws.

[Wingshooter]

But Delaware gave us Biden, so there is that....

lol

No sales tax there if I remember correctly