Lake City ammo too dangerous for civilians

[1fast4by]

When you cant ban guns...

 

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-biden-administration-moves-to-cut-off-lake-city-223-5-56-ammo-from-the-commercial-market/

 

 

FJB goes without saying

 

 

[Darrell]

As if ammo isn't already too expensive.  Some elbow that wants to shoot up a school isn't going to care if the ammo is a bit more expensive, they'll never pay that credit card bill anyway. But it will certainly have an effect on those who like to put a bunch of rounds downrange. FJB indeed!

[Grayfox54]

According to the article Lake City provides 30% of the 5.56 ammo on the market. The plant is run by Winchester and that would be a huge loss of revenue for them. I'm thinking Winchester could easily pressure Joe by withholding military production until he reverses this order. 

[Grayfox54]

Its backdoor gun control. I just shot off e-mails to my Congress Critters informing them of the situation. I'll bet they have no idea this is happening behind their backs. I suggest you do too. Raise a fuss and make it known! 

[Hozzie]

Fine, just fulfill the govt. contract to the exact number, change the label and rebrand it for the commercial market.    I am also not sure how the Govt can just change the contract terms for the supplier.  Winchester is not a govt entity.  I have done plenty of business with govt.  They don't get to tell us what we can and can't sell to other people.  If the Govt is supplying the whole goods, then maybe, but that doesn't make sense either.

Edited June 16, 2022 by Hozzie

[Wingshooter]

Just now, Hozzie said:

Fine, just fulfill the govt. contract to the exact number, change the label and rebrand it for the commercial market.    I am also not sure how the Govt can just change the contract terms for the supplier.  Winchester is not a govt entity.  I have done plenty of business with govt.  They don't get to tell us what we can and can't sell to other people.  If they aren't supplying the whole goods, screw em.

This admin like to play dictator with corporations. I witnessed that first hand when they labeled airlines as government contractors simply so they could required the covid vax. We need some corporations to start pushing back on the .gov

 

[Whisper]

6 minutes ago, Hozzie said:

Fine, just fulfill the govt. contract to the exact number, change the label and rebrand it for the commercial market. 

Nice idea, but Lake City ammo is more than just a label on the box.  Lake City has its own headstamps on the cartridge cases.  No one will be changing those easily.

[Wingshooter]

I long for the day when most corporations just tell the gov to pound sand when the gov tries to pull their strings for political purposes, but the love of money and all that....

 

[Hozzie]

7 minutes ago, Whisper said:

Nice idea, but Lake City ammo is more than just a label on the box.  Lake City has its own headstamps on the cartridge cases.  No one will be changing those easily.

The question is simply who owns the rights the name Lake City.  No telling what the contract  actually says, but they will always try to bully business to get what they want.  And Winchester makes other headstamped ammo.  Just keep it coming on those lines, although I am sure they are already maxed out.  Or buy additional press plates.  There is money to be made.  Someone will do it.

Edited June 16, 2022 by Hozzie

[Wingshooter]

It’s hard for me to remember all the shenanigans these fools have done, but didn't Obama try something similar? Seems we were on the verge of a ban on M855 a few years back.
 

 

[Trekbike]

Based on the wording in the article, it implies that the US Military owns the Lake City plant and Winchester just operates it for them.    If that is in fact true, then the gov can do what they're saying.   

Never thought about it before but it would make sense that the military would want to own an ammo plant to have a secure/stable supply.

[Chucktshoes]

18 minutes ago, Trekbike said:

Based on the wording in the article, it implies that the US Military owns the Lake City plant and Winchester just operates it for them.    If that is in fact true, then the gov can do what they're saying.   

Never thought about it before but it would make sense that the military would want to own an ammo plant to have a secure/stable supply.

This is correct. Lake City is wholly owned by the U.S. Gov. and operation of the plant is contracted out. Olin took over the contract just a couple years ago. 

[Garufa]

I wonder how long it will take for LC sourced 5.56 to skyrocket in price and dry up?  This evening, tomorrow?

[Ronald_55]

2 hours ago, Garufa said:

I wonder how long it will take for LC sourced 5.56 to skyrocket in price and dry up?  This evening, tomorrow?

2 hours ago? maybe lol

[RED333]

When the brits came into Concord they were after the cannon, powder and the shot(lead). Thus the 2nd was born!!!