Thief steals dozens of guns

[bobsguns]

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Thief steals dozens of guns from store in Marion County, $8,000 reward offered

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The ATF says "numerous" firearms were stolen, including 25 handguns, 3 rifles, and a micro conversion kit for a Glock pistol, totalling $11,510.

Apparently Fox News doesn't use spell check?   

Lotsa info left out of that story, which I can understand given the circumstances. BUT!

My questions:

1) Why wasn't the alarm triggered?

2) Was there in fact an alarm?

3) The pic in the story was grainy & not very good. Was there only one camera? Camera systems these days are affordable, even for a quality set-up.

4) Why was the conversion kit for the Glock even mentioned? Does that make it super extra dangerous/deadly? 

My opinion: I bet the store owner is like a lot of rural business owners, not terribly concerned with a burglar since 99% of country folks are totally honest. Probably didn't do much more than lock his doors, i.e. no steel screen door, no roll-ups on the windows, nothing other than the single camera which isn't too high of a resolution to get a clear pic.

Nothing was noted in the story about how the thief gained entry. I'm betting it wasn't too difficult, sad to say. 

A friend of mine helped a Nashville gun shop move into their current location. We installed roll-ups over all the windows, had bars on them & had a rolling steel mesh gate across the entry door. Could someone still get in? No doubt, but they'd make a helluva racket & would set off the motion detectors. Nothing is 100% burglar proof, as banks & stores are robbed via break-ins every week. 

For the record, I think the muslim punishment for thievery is spot-on. I HATE a thief!

[A.J. Holst]

Did you see the $1M smash and grab out of Florida? Not guns, high end designer bags. Simply replicating the pattern of Chicago and San Francisco high end retail areas.

It seems the thieving criminal element is becoming more emboldened as there are few to no consequences.

I'm not an alarmist, but if no consequences, what's the deterrent to stop robbing of passersby, homes, and carjacking?

The new spin will be, "retailers aren't doing enough to secure their businesses before, during or after hours." to "he/she should have known driving a nice car, wearing a nice watch / jewelry, or dressed in name brand clothing is a target for the criminal element."

[bobsguns]

1 hour ago, A.J. Holst said:

I'm not an alarmist, but if no consequences, what's the deterrent to stop robbing of passersby, homes, and carjacking?

I've always thought getting shot in the face would deter thievery. Seemed to work back in the day, before all this SJW crap.

The esteemed Chicago Mayor Beetlejuice has already mentioned stores needing to do more to protect their inventory.

Personally, I could care less about overpriced purses getting stolen. Guns in the hands of thugs, gang bangers & punks concerns me more. YMMV.

[RED333]

4 hours ago, bobsguns said:

Chicago Mayor Beetlejuice

I knew I had seen that Face somewhere.

 

[RED333]

4 hours ago, bobsguns said:

mentioned stores needing to do more to protect their inventory.

Yep and as soon as some of these thieves get shot the liberal left to freak out.

[bobsguns]

3 hours ago, RED333 said:

Yep and as soon as some of these thieves get shot the liberal left to freak out.

No doubt. But as the old proverb says, "The dogs bark but the caravan travels on."

Thinning the herd of punks, thieves & murders is the only thing to slow them down. DA's & judges are releasing them as fast as they're arrested in most places. 

Not that I would condone illegal activity, mind you, but it wouldn't surprise me if people would shoot a perp & then just casually stroll away like nothing happened. 

[Dirtshooter]

"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge or jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. " Lt.Col Jeff Cooper

[Daniel]

On 12/29/2021 at 6:17 PM, bobsguns said:

99% of country folks are totally honest

lol

[bobsguns]

10 hours ago, Daniel said:

lol

Not sure why you're laughing at that. Before the meth invasion, almost everyone I know never bothered to lock their doors when they left their houses. 

[RED333]

What if J walking carried the death penalty, think about it.

12 hours ago, Dirtshooter said:

"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge or jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. " Lt.Col Jeff Cooper

 

[Snaveba]

Then folks would not J-walk.

It may be considered barbaric in “modern society” but as bobs guns mentioned, the Muslim punishment of cutting of the hand of a thief works. 
 

I remember a story I heard in the 80’s when a friend of mine moved with his family to Saudi Arabia because his dad was working on the new airport. They were out and about and his dad dropped his wallet. When he realized it was missing and they retraced their path, it was right where he dropped it. No one was willing to just steal in off the ground for fear of losing a hand. 

[Darrell]

32 minutes ago, Snaveba said:

it was right where he dropped it.

That situation exists in Japan, too. Not because the Japanese fear harsh punishment, but because they value their good standing in society. We have a saying here that the squeaking wheel gets the grease. The corollary saying in Japan is, "The nail that sticks up gets hammered down,"  Of course there are honest and dishonest people everywhere. A friend went to Tijuana with me to shop for a pair of cowboy boots, and she left her purse in the store when we left. The store-keeper chased us down two blocks away to return it, and that after I'd done my best to haggle the price of the boots down. I was impressed.

[Snaveba]

I suppose those are the two sides of the coin. On one side it is control of crime (or what ever societal moray is being broken) through fear of physical punishment, or control through fear of social ostracism.

I wonder if in our society if we are in limbo somewhere in between where we don’t want to have harsh punishment, but there are not enough societal pressures to keep people following the rules. It is a scary place to be. 

[Alleycat72]

1 minute ago, Snaveba said:

I wonder if in our society if we are in limbo somewhere in between where we don’t want to have harsh punishment, but there are not enough societal pressures to keep people following the rules. It is a scary place to be. 

That's where fentanyl comes in. It's a problem that doesn't want to be solved. Guy takes your stuff for drug money. Dies from fentanyl overdose. No one gets that upset. 

[pop pop]

The Bible talks about this subject in Judges. The main theme is in the last verse of chapter 21. (judges 21:25) "In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes." 

Just won't work guys. There simply must be laws and the GOVERNMENT is set up to punish those who do not obey them.  They recently arrested 3 of the smash and grab guys in New York City and Mayor DeBlasio ordered no incarceration for non-violent thugs, so the 3, they were on the street in an hour. 

Defund the Police. No incarceration. No harsh laws for crooks.  Politicians in major Democratic led cities(no king in Israel)  will not allow the arm of the law to be used these days. People do what they think is right in their own eyes. Really simple guys. We now have Cáos in our society. 

Like it or not, you guys are not reading the right books, or you would know what is going on. 

Edited January 1, 2022 by pop pop

[1gewehr]

Many years ago (late '80's, early '90's) a convenience store in South Greensboro, NC had guy walk in waving a pistol after it had been robbed a few times previously.  The Korean owner blew him away with a 12ga to the chest.  Then, the owner put a fake bloody head on a spike in front of the store.

The news run with the story for a few days because of the 'brutal actions' of the store owner in putting the head on a spike.  But the store was not robbed for several years, in spite of other nearby convenience store getting robbed.

About four years later, another dude comes in waving a pistol, receives the same welcome.  A second bloody head was placed next to the first one.  Again, it made the news.  This time, they interviewed other convenience store managers about the bloody heads.  After several of them were on TV saying that they now had shotguns, crime in that part of Greensboro dropped dramatically.

I'll bet that smash and grabs would be reduced by the same prescription.  Sadly, here in TN you cannot use deadly force except to defend people in fear of death or serious injury.

[Snaveba]

I have a memory of a story my dad told me from when he was stationed on the DMZ after the Korean conflict. I can’t say it is 100% true.  The Korean barracks (maybe on the north) had a problem with thieves. They caught one of the thieves, and put his head on a spike. They did not have a problem again.   

[Grunt67]

1 hour ago, 1gewehr said:

Many years ago (late '80's, early '90's) a convenience store in South Greensboro, NC had guy walk in waving a pistol after it had been robbed a few times previously.  The Korean owner blew him away with a 12ga to the chest.  Then, the owner put a fake bloody head on a spike in front of the store.

The news run with the story for a few days because of the 'brutal actions' of the store owner in putting the head on a spike.  But the store was not robbed for several years, in spite of other nearby convenience store getting robbed.

About four years later, another dude comes in waving a pistol, receives the same welcome.  A second bloody head was placed next to the first one.  Again, it made the news.  This time, they interviewed other convenience store managers about the bloody heads.  After several of them were on TV saying that they now had shotguns, crime in that part of Greensboro dropped dramatically.

I'll bet that smash and grabs would be reduced by the same prescription.  Sadly, here in TN you cannot use deadly force except to defend people in fear of death or serious injury.

It really pisses me off that you are required to watch someone walk away with your stuff, unscathed. That law is in need of change .

[Alleycat72]

10 minutes ago, Grunt67 said:

It really pisses me off that you are required to watch someone walk away with your stuff, unscathed. That law is in need of change .

In Texas, you don't. 

[Grunt67]

8 minutes ago, Alleycat72 said:

In Texas, you don't. 

God bless Texas.

[bobsguns]

3 hours ago, Snaveba said:

I wonder if in our society if we are in limbo somewhere in between where we don’t want to have harsh punishment, but there are not enough societal pressures to keep people following the rules. It is a scary place to be. 

Visit such cities as SanFran, Baltimore & Chicago. See how well the criminals get "punished" these days. Were there any moral people left in those cities, I'd be extremely surprised. Crime pays very well there, it seems.

[bobsguns]

3 hours ago, Alleycat72 said:

 Guy takes your stuff for drug money. Dies from fentanyl overdose. No one gets that upset. 

My first rule as King would be to ban the use of the OD antidote being used by EMT's & certain police. If someone is stupid enough to OD, let 'em ride that pony on outta here, IMO. Lots better people need help desperately than some drug addict, IMO. 

[bobsguns]

3 hours ago, pop pop said:

Like it or not, you guys are not reading the right books, or you would know what is going on. 

And which books exactly would those be? The ones who don't spell "chaos" correctly? Or different books?

[bobsguns]

2 hours ago, Snaveba said:

I have a memory of a story my dad told me from when he was stationed on the DMZ after the Korean conflict. I can’t say it is 100% true.  The Korean barracks (maybe on the north) had a problem with thieves. They caught one of the thieves, and put his head on a spike. They did not have a problem again.   

Wasn't South Korea, IMO. They refine theft as a fine art, at least when I was there. But it was nickel & dime crap, nothing serious. They wouldn't spike heads for small stuff, at least not in the 1970s. North Korea, OTOH, is an entirely different train of thought.

Edited January 1, 2022 by bobsguns

[bobsguns]

55 minutes ago, Grunt67 said:

It really pisses me off that you are required to watch someone walk away with your stuff, unscathed. That law is in need of change .

Yeah, that's not gonna happen with MY stuff. Not implying nor encouraging anything illegal, but the story can be properly tuned if one is careful. Just sayin'.

Also, jury nullification is a wonderful thing. Never turn down the opportunity to serve on a jury. You never know which poor guy is getting railroaded by a crappy DA or not?