I want a lever action rifle.

[hipower]

Well, I think the long, long threads on lever rifles might have been the first clue.

[Snaveba]

2 hours ago, hipower said:

I'm beginning to suspect you have a problem

One similar to mine.

It’s well documented (in this thread, by me) that I have a problem. 
 

I also have a 1907 Winchester Model 94 in 38-55 on the way.
 

And a buddy picked up a 1923 Winchester in 30-30. 
 

both are octagonal barreled. 

Edited February 22 by Snaveba

[Snaveba]

Well, I did just sell one, so net zero gain.

[Snaveba]

1 hour ago, Choatecav said:

But gotta say, that is a gorgeous Marlin......

Thanks. It’s not perfect. I was  using a table top belt sander to remove excess wood on the stock, and I pushed it a little too far. But overall, I’m very happy with the results. It stated like this:

 

[hipower]

3 hours ago, Snaveba said:

Well, I did just sell one, so net zero gain.

Sure. I tell my wife something similar. Nope. Won't buy unless I sell something.

I think I'm several dozen behind.

I sure hope my little 22 didn't start you on this journey.

Me? I have only 2. A SS Rossi 357 and a Marlin (if memeory serves) in 22 magnum.

[KahrMan]

5 hours ago, Snaveba said:

My latest Lever. 
 

Marlin 1893 Chambered in 38-55 made in 1900. Started out for me as a barreled receiver with the lever, bolt, hammer and loading gate included. There was no stock, no forend, no mag tube(or components), no rear sight, not forend cap or tenon. Additionally, the listing said the hammer would not lock back.
 

The case color hardening was all but gone from the receiver (one small spot left on the inside of the lower tang plate) but the bluing on the 26” octagonal barrel still looks very good. 

The first thing was to figure that out  turned out to be a rusted trigger spring  l was having trouble finding one for an 1893  I took a chance on a trigger spring from an early 1897 (precursor to the 39a). It worked and the first issue was fixed  

I found the mag tube (and inner parts), rear sight, forend cap, forend tenon. Picked up a reproduction stock and forend set made of American Black Walnut.

I had to finish the inletting for the tang and forend and I had to do the final shaping and apply a hand rubbed oil finish. That took a while. I finally have it all done. The stock I found was a “carbine” style. Not an issue I thought. I like them. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize that finding a Marlin 1893 Carbine butt plate was a kin to finding hen’s teeth. I do still need one and that is why there is a recoil pad on the rifle, hiding the missing butt plate.

Here is a photo. If I can figure out the photo hosting site Kahrman suggested, I’ll put ip a bunch of photos of the process. 

 

The stock turned out nice.

[LangdoniousRex]

Since this seems to be the ultimate lever rifle thread, I figured I'd drop my question here:

Rossi R95 Triple Black or Henry H009X or another threaded barrel 30-30?

[Snaveba]

Well, I am partial to JM Marlins. However, you’re not going to find a JM Marlin in 30-30 with a threaded barrel, unless you do it yourself. The R95 is new and that is Rossi‘s “copy” of a Marlin 336. I’ve held one and they seem pretty solid. For some reason I’ve never been a fan of Henry center fire. I think it’s because they used to not have side gates. My first lever gun was a Henry that picked up from @hipower.

I believe Ruger/Marlin actually has a trapper out now in 30-30 now, but they are $$$$.
 

https://palmettostatearmory.com/marlin-sbl-336-30-30-win-19-1-6rd-lever-action-rifle-gray-laminate-70905.html

or this if you can find one 

https://palmettostatearmory.com/marlin-model-336-dark-series-30-30-win-16-25-lever-action-shotgun-black-70497.html

Between the two you listed, I would probably get the Rossi. 
 

Edited February 24 by Snaveba

[LangdoniousRex]

19 minutes ago, Snaveba said:

Well, I am partial to JM Marlins. However, you’re not going to find a JM Marlin in 30-30 with a threaded barrel, unless you do it yourself. The R95 is new and that is Rossi‘s “copy” of a Marlin 336. I’ve held one and they seem pretty solid. For some reason I’ve never been a fan of Henry center fire. I think it’s because they used to not have side gates. My first lever gun was a Henry that picked up from @hipower.

I believe Ruger/Marlin actually has a trapper out now in 30-30 now, but they are $$$$.
 

https://palmettostatearmory.com/marlin-sbl-336-30-30-win-19-1-6rd-lever-action-rifle-gray-laminate-70905.html

or this if you can find one 

https://palmettostatearmory.com/marlin-model-336-dark-series-30-30-win-16-25-lever-action-shotgun-black-70497.html

Between the two you listed, I would probably get the Rossi. 
 

But 

But ?

That Marlin 336 SBL is sweet but that price tag is oof. I have the 1895 SBL and am partial to that configuration. The Rossi is the cheapest and most readily available. The Henry is cheaper than the Marlin and can be had for near Rossi pricing when available. The 336 Dark is discontinued so it's only available on the open market and people generally want obscene money for them so that's a hard pass. If I had to be honest with myself, I've never held a Rossi in my hands so I'm quite apprehensive of the brand in general. I love my Marlins and Henrys so I have no problem going all in on either brand. That being said, I'd either wait for a Henry H009X to pop up at MSRP or snatch a 336 SBL at the best price I can find. I've tried to get hands on a Rossi at a retail store but even those are not exactly easy to come by.

[Snaveba]

I stated to say “ but I don’t care for “tactical lever guns”. 

[papa61]

1 minute ago, Snaveba said:

I stated to say “ but I don’t care for “tactical lever guns”. 

I have to agree. I think they are the next new thing that will pass. I do like the Marlin Dark but not enough to shell out what they are bringing. 

Just as a point of contention, I have not seen a commercial 30-30 in sub-sonic and wouldn't want to download far enough to get there so even suppressed it's going to be loud. I've seen vids of suppressed 45-70 and it doesn't make a great deal of difference.

Lastly, isn't the Mossberg 30-30 threaded?

[LangdoniousRex]

6 minutes ago, Snaveba said:

I stated to say “ but I don’t care for “tactical lever guns”. 

It could be old school as far as I'm concerned. I came across a smoking deal on a pile of subsonic 30-30 and want to run it with my can. I already have a tacticool level rifle and don't really care for another.

[colbyzg]

I love my Henry 22lr. So much fun to shoot and a beautiful rifle. Cant remember the model but there should be something for everyone in their lineup. 

[papa61]

10 minutes ago, LangdoniousRex said:

It could be old school as far as I'm concerned. I came across a smoking deal on a pile of subsonic 30-30 and want to run it with my can. I already have a tacticool level rifle and don't really care for another.

In that case, Rossi would be my choice simply for the looks. Henry makes great rifles, I just don't want one,,,yet

[LangdoniousRex]

11 minutes ago, papa61 said:

In that case, Rossi would be my choice simply for the looks. Henry makes great rifles, I just don't want one,,,yet

I'd prefer a rifle that ran over its looks. I've had some of the older JM Marlins in hand and the action felt kind of crunchy which lead me to wait and buy newer production versions and they've been brilliant so far. That's where I'm not confident just YOLOing a grand at a Rossi not knowing if it's a pile of trash or not. 

[papa61]

31 minutes ago, LangdoniousRex said:

I'd prefer a rifle that ran over its looks. I've had some of the older JM Marlins in hand and the action felt kind of crunchy which lead me to wait and buy newer production versions and they've been brilliant so far. That's where I'm not confident just YOLOing a grand at a Rossi not knowing if it's a pile of trash or not. 

I have n older JM Marlin. The action on mine is quite smooth. But I don't doubt your experience. I would have to have one in my hands to know how the action would be. That could be a problem in any case. I tend to worry less about the action and more about the trigger. Actions can be easily slicked up. BTW, my Marlin probably needs cleaned and re-lubed now as I haven't used it in quite some time. All that aside, I would be quite comfortable buying a new Rossi. their reputation is quite good at this time.

[Snaveba]

I know this photo is in the thread. But I wanted a threaded trapper in 30-30 so I made one from a really rough 1957 336. I had to find parts, cut down the barrel and I had Morgan Richey at Class 3 Machining thread the barrel. I think it turned out nice. If you want to let some of the subsonic 30-30 go, let me know. 

(the can is still in jail)

Edited February 24 by Snaveba

[Grunt67]

17 hours ago, papa61 said:

I have to agree. I think they are the next new thing that will pass. I do like the Marlin Dark but not enough to shell out what they are bringing. 

Just as a point of contention, I have not seen a commercial 30-30 in sub-sonic and wouldn't want to download far enough to get there so even suppressed it's going to be loud. I've seen vids of suppressed 45-70 and it doesn't make a great deal of difference.

Lastly, isn't the Mossberg 30-30 threaded?

To me, putting a surpresser on a 45/70 is like telling my ex to shut up.

[Mrs Griz]

Never met a LA I didn't like from .22 on up. Of course the .22s are way cheaper to shoot for plinking, practice and pests but if you get good w/ one of those, those are all transferable skills.

 

Have fun

[TripleGGG]

Suppressed 45-70 is a lot of fun with the right ammo. 

[Mrs Griz]

45-70 in 20" or 24" w/ full length Mag tubes are right up there

[gregintenn]

21 hours ago, LangdoniousRex said:

I'd prefer a rifle that ran over its looks. I've had some of the older JM Marlins in hand and the action felt kind of crunchy which lead me to wait and buy newer production versions and they've been brilliant so far. That's where I'm not confident just YOLOing a grand at a Rossi not knowing if it's a pile of trash or not. 

Buy the 99 Savage in the classifieds and have a gunsmith thread it. You’ll have an awesome and unique rifle.

[LangdoniousRex]

12 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

Buy the 99 Savage in the classifieds and have a gunsmith thread it. You’ll have an awesome and unique rifle.

I like where your head is. If it weren't a 4 hour drive away, I'd probably snag it.

[Snaveba]

6 hours ago, Mrs Griz said:

45-70 in 20" or 24" w/ full length Mag tubes are right up there

Or 3/4 mag tubes 

[tacops]

I have a 94 Winchester 30-30 (Early 70s), a Marlin .357 Carbine, Rossi 92 .357 Big loop Carbine , Browning BL-22 .22 Carbine.  I have a serious itch for a Uberti 1873, 20 inch octagon barrel, .357.  I haven't found one in a store on the east end of the state, or offered as private sale.  I hesitate to order for I want to see the wood before I commit the money. Maybe one day.