new law introduced to protect property

[Grayfox54]

I got this from TFA a little while ago. A new law has been introduced to strengthen property owners rights to protect their  personal property. Its said this is in the wake of the riots and violence that is happening around the country. Not much on details, but I think we really need this. 

STORY HERE

[Omega]

We can only hope.

[xsubsailor]

They need to get this passed ASAP.  If President Trump somehow pulls out this election we're going to need as much law on our side as possible. 

[DaveTN]

I’ve said it several times here; we need this. Criminals need to know that if they enter your property to commit a crime; they risk being killed. But I have my doubts it will pass. It will be interesting to see the wording.

[RED333]

1 hour ago, DaveTN said:

It will be interesting to see the wording.

Yes it will, my thinking it will be limited to more personal than business.

[xsubsailor]

  I've done my part by contacting (e-mail) my reps in Nashville asking they back this bill because of the current unrest in the country. I also recommended it be given a lot of thought and worded very specifically so there is very little room for error. 

 We have members scattered over the entire state so just about every rep. should be contacted. It may or may not do any good but it won't hurt to try. 

[Erich]

Good on Mr. Reedy for standing up for law abiding citizens against a legal system that has been designed to give maximum rights and protections to these sorts of criminals in acting with complete impunity.

[Garufa]

5 hours ago, DaveTN said:

It will be interesting to see the wording.

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0011&GA=112

[DaveTN]

17 minutes ago, Garufa said:

http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0011&GA=112

There's nothing there except "under certain circumstances". To get something passed those "circumstances" are going to have to be pretty clear. Killing trespassers isn't going to pass. 

[Garufa]

43 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

There's nothing there except "under certain circumstances". To get something passed those "circumstances" are going to have to be pretty clear. Killing trespassers isn't going to pass. 

Did you read the text of the bill?  As with all proposed legislation on the State's website a .pdf of the proposed bill is provided by clicking on the bill number.

http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB0011.pdf

[Omega]

12 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Did you read the text of the bill?  As with all proposed legislation on the State's website a .pdf of the proposed bill is provided by clicking on the bill number.

http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB0011.pdf

HOUSE BILL 11 By Reedy HB0011 000034 - 1 - AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 39, Chapter 11, Part 6, relative to justifications excluding criminal responsibility. BE IT ENACTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF TENNESSEE: SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 39-11-614, is amended by deleting subsection (c) and substituting instead the following:

(c) A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect real or tangible, movable property:

(1) If the person would be justified in using force against another under subsection (a) or (b);

(2) When and to the degree the person reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary to prevent:

(A) The other's imminent commission of an act of arson, burglary, theft during hours of darkness, robbery, or aggravated robbery; or

(B) The other from fleeing immediately after committing an act of arson, burglary, theft during hours of darkness, robbery, or aggravated robbery; and

(3) The person reasonably believes:

(A) The real or tangible, movable property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) The use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the real or tangible, movable property would expose the person or a third person to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. - 2 - 000034 (d) Unless a person is justified in using deadly force under subsection

(c) or as otherwise provided by law, a person is not justified in using deadly force to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on real property or unlawful interference with personal property.

SECTION 2. This act shall take effect July 1, 2021, the public welfare requiring it.

[Quavodus]

13 hours ago, xsubsailor said:

They need to get this passed ASAP.  If President Trump somehow pulls out this election we're going to need as much law on our side as possible. 

Yes if Trump pulls this out, it could get bad but, if Biden ends up being President "UGH" it could get bad for the Leftists too. 

[DaveTN]

1 hour ago, Garufa said:

Did you read the text of the bill?  As with all proposed legislation on the State's website a .pdf of the proposed bill is provided by clicking on the bill number.

No I did not. I was looking under the tabs and saw nothing, thank you for that.

[DaveTN]

1 hour ago, Quavodus said:

Yes if Trump pulls this out, it could get bad but, if Biden ends up being President "UGH" it could get bad for the Leftists too. 

True. The criminals won’t be satisfied with Biden being elected. I mean, come on, its an old white man and an ex-cop; that’s not going to work for them. They have seen that burning out innocent people’s business, beating them, and terrorizing people on the street will be treated in many cities as civil disobedience.

Law enforcement has failed to protect Americans from these animals, and we obviously need a path to protect ourselves; that is a right that many don’t want to acknowledge. Of course, those jurisdictions that have given the Police orders to stand down and allowed thugs to take over their streets won’t enforce the laws already in place to stop that.

I suspect they will not acknowledge any laws put in place to stop those criminals and will bring to trial anyone that uses force against those they see as their soldiers. Exactly as they are doing with cops now.

[Wingshooter]

Definitely need this

[Randall53]

Wel, if the Democrats win control of the country, that being the congress and senate and White House, (there’s a very strong possibility of this) you’ll have to beat them to death with a ball bat for this law to apply anyway. 

[Omega]

3 hours ago, Randall53 said:

Wel, if the Democrats win control of the country, that being the congress and senate and White House, (there’s a very strong possibility of this) you’ll have to beat them to death with a ball bat for this law to apply anyway. 

Nah, I've got scuba gear to retrieve something better from one of the many boating accidents we will be having.  Dang, gonna need a bigger boat!

[Randall53]

1 hour ago, Omega said:

Nah, I've got scuba gear to retrieve something better from one of the many boating accidents we will be having.  Dang, gonna need a bigger boat!

I forgot which lake my boat turned over on.

[KahrMan]

8 minutes ago, Randall53 said:

I forgot which lake my boat turned over on.

I have the scuba gear if you remember...

[xsubsailor]

[TripleGGG]

6 hours ago, Randall53 said:

I forgot which lake my boat turned over on.

I've had so many accidents I'll never find everything! 

[Chucktshoes]

I ain’t lost, nor will I lose ####. 
 

#### em.