How Concerned Are You About Mass Civil Unrest Post-Election 2020?

[Raoul]

1 hour ago, partypilot1 said:

I’m concerned of blowback from the Israeli peace deal which unfortunately would be occurring during election time. Being in the fourth turning, this will get interesting .

Fourth turning? Tell us more.

[partypilot1]

The fourth turning is the time cycle season when problems become so tangled there is a societal unraveling and typically a political party is dissolved. Wars fought during the fourth turning are fought furiously. Countries are nuclear armed this time around.

There is a great book on the subject, I think called the fourth turning written back in 1997

[Eddie Southgate]

Not .

[Raoul]

52 minutes ago, Eddie Southgate said:

Not .

? Not what..

 

[Randall53]

Fourth turning info

https://www.lifecourse.com/about/method/the-four-turnings.html

 

[Raoul]

https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/t_s_eliot_109029

This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.

[Randall53]

I believe it’s going to be bad no matter who wins. The freedom of our nation will be at stake. The enemy will be the liberals and their Democrat leaders. If they lose, they’ll do what they are doing now just in a much broader, intense and radical way. If they win we’ll see a slight lull until they try to disarm us, which you can bet your butt will happen. Then we’ll see major resistance from paramilitary groups like we saw at the Bundy ranch in Nevada, and many more will join the fight. A real Civil War 2. 

[Grand Torino]

We are as prepared as we can be and have been in this mode since the late 90's. I expect it will get even worse than it is now. We live out in the country with like minded neighbors so there is that. I think there will be a problem with supply of goods as well. I don't think  there will be a riot problem out here but if goods and services are disrupted that could make it a whole new ballgame. I'm disgusted with half the people in this country and have more compassion for my dogs and treat them better than some scumbag that will try to take our stuff that we have worked so hard for.  They say most countries only last a few hundred years and it breaks my heart to think we've fallen so fast since the greatest generation to the weak kneed fools of today. 

[Erik88]

7 hours ago, Raoul said:

? Not what..

 

I believe he's responding to the title of the thread. I have to say, the level of conspiracy theory here on TGO is reaching monumental proportions. It's becoming hard to take otherwise rational people serious. Alex Jones would be proud. 

Saying that Biden can only win by massive voter fraud is just not true. Trump lost the popular vote by nearly 3M people in 2016. He likely hasn't gotten more popular. Most presidents don't.  He won FL by only 100k, Michigan by 10k and PA by 40k. He's going to need a miracle in all 3 again. 

[BHunted]

If Trump wins, he has already mentioned using the Insurrection Act.... (hell, he should do it now. He can and should slam every area of the country down. Being prepared is good but if you are digging in, make sure you can cover all sides. Depending where you live, rural for instance, its going to take more than you. Kind of hard to have choke points, k-boxes, etc where there are so many ways in. Corn fields, etc...

I hope too, it doesn't go this far and IA can get it controlled. It should have never gone this far. quite frankly, this crap needs a change. Any political hack that fails to halt this should be immediately removed from office. We cannot wait to vote these people out because it takes too long. People are hurting now. We cannot let it go on or creep across the field towards us.

Cut off the head of the snakes. Sorors, Blumbutt, etc... Soros laughs and thinks this is funny. He has created trained Marxist. I'm sure both sides of our govt know this. 

[Erik88]

25 minutes ago, BHunted said:

If Trump wins, he has already mentioned using the Insurrection Act.... (hell, he should do it now. He can and should slam every area of the country down

:Breathes deeply: 

I love the smell of authoritarian praise in the morning. 

[DaveTN]

33 minutes ago, BHunted said:

If Trump wins, he has already mentioned using the Insurrection Act....

Trump and Barr both need to quit making threats they aren’t prepared to back-up; it shows they are weak. These places don’t need military action; they need their local Police to be uncuffed. Those who ordered them to stand down; need to be charged criminally.

[BHunted]

4 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

:Breathes deeply: 

I love the smell of authoritarian praise in the morning. 

You think its a bad idea?

[BHunted]

Just now, DaveTN said:

Trump and Barr both need to quit making threats they aren’t prepared to back-up; it shows they are weak. These places don’t need military action; they need their local Police to be uncuffed. Those who ordered them to stand down; need to be charged criminally.

Yea, but they won't. Meanwhile it gets worse. I did say in my post that getting corrupt govt out immediately and we cant wait for voting them out. It doesn't work. Un-cuffing the police is fine by me. Also, from experience, I've seen good cops turn politician once they've reached brass ranks. They listen to the politicians running the show.

If it were not the case, don't you think the leo would go against their gov body and do their jobs?

[DaveTN]

5 minutes ago, BHunted said:

If it were not the case, don't you think the leo would go against their gov body and do their jobs?

They can’t do their jobs if they don’t get the information from the dispatchers. They aren’t being sent. Should they try it with their coms and other support shut down? Of course not, that would be suicide.

[BHunted]

19 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

They can’t do their jobs if they don’t get the information from the dispatchers. They aren’t being sent. Should they try it with their coms and other support shut down? Of course not, that would be suicide.

Think you misread me. You mentioned the local leo need to be un-cuffed. In other words, to be able to do their jobs. I agree!
They are cuffed by the crooked politicians. Most want to do the right thing. I'd like to see them give the middle finger to the corrupt rulers and -just- do their jobs. Instead, you have officers, chiefs, etc. Resigning and retiring because they had enough. 

So again, do what?

As far as the Insurrection Act, if that cant get full resolve, what are you/we prepared to do? Sandbag your home and put sandbags 10 high around a defensive perimeter? Firebase Gloria perhaps? Run and hide in a mountain while your primary home gets infested by scum and come back to what?

I don't think Trump and Barr are 'just' making threats. They are trying real hard NOT to use the IA... This bs that they need invitations to step in is nuts. 
It needs to be slapped down quickfastnotslow. It would have never gotten to this proportion if it weren't for the libtard leaders in these states. How many livelihoods ruined, innocents getting hurt or killed. Cops, again, getting shot by some chicken #### that shoots and runs. How far are we willing to let it go? When will any of you run up there as a 3 percenter or just think and talk about it?

If anyone has a good idea, I'm all ears. But this anarchy... needs to stop. Govt is here to protect us and whether we like it or not, we need them.
 

Edited September 14, 2020 by BHunted

[DaveTN]

16 minutes ago, BHunted said:

So again, do what?

Give the cops a green light. Going nuclear is not necessary. These are punk azz criminals mixed in with some armed rich kids that probably learned last year which end of the barrel the bullet comes out. The fact that they can pull a trigger in a crowd or ambush cops sitting in a car, doesn’t make them military operators. I’m not suggesting that cops underestimate the enemy; I’m saying that when faced with overwhelming force, those that aren’t arrested will retreat like the cowards they are. Most states have criminally laws against politicians failing to act. Especially when innocent citizens die because of it. Those laws need to be enforced. They only thing politicians fear more that not being elected; is going to prison. They don’t think that will happen. They need to be shown they are wrong.

[hlb14]

We live in a fairly rural area. Im not as concerned with civil unrest in my area due to the election as I am the economic impacts it may have on my neighbors.  As some have mentioned,  no matter how the election turns out, I do believe snowflakes will melt.  

Simply anecdotal, but I work part time at a lgs and a large percentage of those first time buyers coming in mention the upcoming election and the potential unrest it may bring.  

[BHunted]

6 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

Give the cops a green light. Going nuclear is not necessary. These are punk azz criminals mixed in with some armed rich kids that probably learned last year which end of the barrel the bullet comes out. The fact that they can pull a trigger in a crowd or ambush cops sitting in a car, doesn’t make them military operators. I’m not suggesting that cops underestimate the enemy; I’m saying that when faced with overwhelming force, those that aren’t arrested will retreat like the cowards they are. Most states have criminally laws against politicians failing to act. Especially when innocent citizens die because of it. Those laws need to be enforced. They only thing politicians fear more that not being elected; is going to prison. They don’t think that will happen. They need to be shown they are wrong.

Still agreeing. But you mention that most states have laws against politicians failing to act. Are the states that are in turmoil now have those laws? If so, who will enforce them by removing their leaders kicking and screaming in cuffs? The dem libtards that are enabling this crap seem to fear nothing. They could care less about us. They are letting it deteriorate and why? They think the rest of the country is going to bail their failed states out with federal funding? Hah! Not going to happen on Trumps watch. They hate Trump and that's their main goal. Destroy him and run over whomever gets in their way.
The states that do not have this so called law, what are they doing? Same thing?
They are showing their true colors. They never cared about the people. Only their worthless hides. Politicians do need term limits. They do need to be removed from office. By voting them out doesn't work and if it does, at the speed of snail crossing a great desert. When a governor or mayor fails to do their jobs, they need to be fired! Not recalled! Not voted out.

I'm getting to old and broken for this crap. I just want things to go back to whatever use to be considered normal and left alone. a lot of us fall into my category but it doesn't mean we won't stand up and fight. We just hope we don't have to.

[leroy]

I think everybody needs to be watchful and armed to the teeth. 

We have simply not seen anything like this here in the US in modern times. As to " Trouble near us "... i have asked myself and orhers the same question.   My thinkin (... notice i said " thinking "... which is a combination of hope, analysis, prayer, n experience...), is that " Red States " will stay relatively calm due to the to the law n order influence of " Red State State Government policies ".  Blue States will more likely burn due to the same effect. 

It is my thinkin that the over-arching " Federalism " of US gubt is dead or so weak, it will never be " authoritarian " again.  You simply will not see the US military escort kids to de-segregated schools anymore, like i did as a young person. Things are simply too polarized.  I do not think that the federal gubt is gonna meddle in any law enforcement (.. Nor lack there of...) in any state... period.  It's simply too risky.

We have become a loose confederation of " Red " and " Blue " states, where law n order is either provided at the local or state level, or by vigilantism, which i expect to break out in both " Blue " and " Troubled Red " locations (... You know where they are...)...

Like others here; im concerned that we seem to be returning to " Dodge City "; but ive come to believe that is exactly where we are.  Like others have opined, im somewhat concerned about the effect on the overall economy, and our personal finances as the banking and financial systems sort this division out. 

We are no longer the " United States "... The "rights without responsibilities crowd of the 60's" and " the children of lower estate " have murdered it; along with plenty of help from the insider political class, and the ultra wealthy plutocracy we have allowed to run wild here in the US.   

 We are now " armed birds of a feather flocking together "... We have no sense of unity.  Our concern for our brothers largely depends on where he or she lives, along with our personal ties to them... It is, indeed, very sad and very dangerous.  Sigh...

sad leroy, the militant isolationist...

Edited September 14, 2020 by leroy

[DaveTN]

24 minutes ago, BHunted said:

Still agreeing. But you mention that most states have laws against politicians failing to act. Are the states that are in turmoil now have those laws? If so, who will enforce them by removing their leaders kicking and screaming in cuffs? 

I don’t know, but I suspect if you search Nonfeasance, Misfeasance and Malfeasance for those states you might find something.

U.S. Marshals or the F.B.I. under the direction of the United States Attorney General could make the arrests.

But they shouldn’t try to use troops when they don’t need them. May 4th 1970, Kent State University. 4 dead, 9 wounded, unarmed protestors.

[BHunted]

22 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

I don’t know, but I suspect if you search Nonfeasance, Misfeasance and Malfeasance for those states you might find something.

U.S. Marshals or the F.B.I. under the direction of the United States Attorney General could make the arrests.

But they shouldn’t try to use troops when they don’t need them. May 4th 1970, Kent State University. 4 dead, 9 wounded, unarmed protestors.

I don't care to know. I was being facetious. But there is no resolve in your statement. My final word is, what are we/you prepared to do? The only govt that wants to do something is federal.

These individual cities and states have no interest in fixing anything. You mention Kent State. I recall it. 4 dead and 9 wounded. Surely you cannot compare Kent to what is happening now. This is much more wide scale. And besides, we have better technology. I know they are watching. They know who is funding this. I mentioned it. Cut off the head of the snakes. It will all slowly go away. In the mean time..... 

Your title/post asks how concerned are you ......... I'm very concerned. But we are not the ones to stop it. Big brother has to. They broke it, they need to fix it by any means. It's no longer unarmed citizens.  

[Grayfox54]

2 hours ago, BHunted said:

If Trump wins, he has already mentioned using the Insurrection Act..

That's exactly what Antifa wants. I blatant display of fascism in action. Or at least that's how they and the liberal news media would twist it. Its a no win situation which is just as they planned it. It would be a major victory and recruiting tool for Antifa. 

The only real answer would be for the good people in these troubled areas to stand up in mass, demand and get action from these do nothing politicians. So far that ain't happening.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. 

[Erik88]

7 minutes ago, Grayfox54 said:

That's exactly what Antifa wants. I blatant display of fascism in action.

Bingo. It would make a bad situation worse. There is actually evidence that the riots are helping Trump. The fact that democrats are not condemning it, and even allowing it to happen, is upsetting a lot of people. Even Don Lemon from CNN said this was a blind spot for Democrats. 

[deerslayer]

I expect a Trump victory to bring a significant increase in riots and police assassinations.  The left is pushing the narrative and apparently believes that Trump cannot win legitimately.  I live and usually work in the suburbs and doubt trouble will come here, but anything can happen anywhere any time.  All it takes is for another felon with a warrant getting pulled over in the suburbs deciding he's not going to jail today and the resulting shooting could detonate that suburb.  I'm carrying a little more artillery in my personal vehicle than normal and try keep the gas tank at least half full.  I do occasionally venture across and into the inner city, where trouble is more likely.  I think it's a good idea to have some extra food and supplies on hand in the days leading up to the election.  Needing them is unlikely, but things we have seen in 2020 were just as unlikely.