New York Attorney General files suit to dissolve the NRA

[MacGyver]

Things are not getting easier for the NRA.

Air your dirty laundry in public - turns out somebody might notice.  

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/899712823/new-york-attorney-general-moves-to-dissolve-the-nra-after-fraud-investigation

Regardless of what you feel about the suit on its face - the NRA kind of walked into this with their lavish spending.

[ken_mays]

It's no good for anybody except the Democrats.   There's no other 2A organization with anything like the clout of the NRA, as corrupt as they seem to be turning out to be.

[Chucktshoes]

Damn it. 

[DaveTN]

I think I remember her starting this a couple of years ago. I doubt they will get a court to dissolve the NRA; but they might. I doubt that would withstand scrutiny by the higher courts; but who knows.

If they have spent this much time on the investigation, they need to indict the players in both the NRA and the agencies working for them that have violated the law.

[A516]

Good old Wayne "Lopeared" and his advertising buddies should have been run out and tarred and feathered a long time ago.  I am a Benefactor member but will never give another penny until old Wayne and his cronies are gone.

[Garufa]

If been reading through some of the dirt in the official State of NY complaint which can be found here.  Within the 164 pages you'll find detailed evidence of King ThePierre's doings.  Also....one of the State's attorneys has the title of "Chief Deputy General for Social Justice", lol.

The NRA also hit back today with a suit against the NY AG alleging defamation and violating its right to free speech.  https://www.foxnews.com/us/nra-lawsuit-ny-attorney-general-lawsuit

 

[Links2k]

3 hours ago, ken_mays said:

It's no good for anybody except the Democrats.   There's no other 2A organization with anything like the clout of the NRA, as corrupt as they seem to be turning out to be.

Their corruption was detrimental to the needs of the membership. Regardless if they were the big dog, it’s not good to be stealing funds that people send to you with the expectation that you will use those funds to lobby on their behalf. 

[Links2k]

3 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

Damn it. 

Didn’t these stories start leaking out a couple of years ago when it became public knowledge that the NRA was struggling financially?

[Chucktshoes]

Just now, Links2k said:

Didn’t these stories start leaking out a couple of years ago when it became public knowledge that the NRA was struggling financially?

Yes. The stories of corruption and malfeasance have been leaking out for decades. I want them fixed, not dead. 

[Links2k]

1 hour ago, A516 said:

Good old Wayne "Lopeared" and his advertising buddies should have been run out and tarred and feathered a long time ago.  I am a Benefactor member but will never give another penny until old Wayne and his cronies are gone.

They still haven’t sent me my free knife from when I renewed my membership years ago.

[gregintenn]

Just now, Links2k said:

They still haven’t sent me my free knife from when I renewed my membership years ago.

You are just as well off. I have a drawer full of them. Cheap Chinese junk.

[ken_mays]

Since the leadership won't even admit there is a problem, the only way this ends is with them crashing and burning.

[Capbyrd]

As absolutely terrible as the NRA is, until we have a stronger GOA or other substitute, we need them.

 

 

NRA President Carolyn Meadows released a statement.  She isn't completely wrong. 

 

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This was a baseless, premeditated attack on our organization and the Second Amendment freedoms it fights to defend. 

You could have set your watch by it: the investigation was going to reach its crescendo as we move into the 2020 election cycle. It’s a transparent attempt to score political points and attack the leading voice in opposition to the leftist agenda. This has been a power grab by a political opportunist – a desperate move that is part of a rank political vendetta. Our members won’t be intimidated or bullied in their defense of political and constitutional freedom.

As evidenced by the lawsuit filed by the NRA today against the NYAG, we not only will not shrink from this fight – we will confront it and prevail.

 

[Chucktshoes]

4 minutes ago, Capbyrd said:

As absolutely terrible as the NRA is, until we have a stronger GOA or other substitute, we need them.

 

 

NRA President Carolyn Meadows released a statement.  She isn't completely wrong. 

 

 

The only thing that I would say she was wrong about was the “baseless” part. That’s the worst part about it. We’re here because WLP and his friends put us here. 

[jpx2rk]

It seems a bit unusual to me to "dissolve" the NRA when there are allegations of corruption.   The normal course is to prosecute/punish the people involved with/in the corruption first and then the organization is fined to some extent.  Thinking of the Pilot Oil issue a few years back.  Pilot Oil still exists, but some of those involved in the illegal acts are behind bars or trying to avoid jail sentences.  

Trying to dissolve the NRA is purely a political move IMO.  Punish the one's who did wrong and bring in new leaders to correct this issues.

[Garufa]

5 minutes ago, jpx2rk said:

It seems a bit unusual to me to "dissolve" the NRA when there are allegations of corruption.   The normal course is to prosecute/punish the people involved with/in the corruption first and then the organization is fined to some extent.  Thinking of the Pilot Oil issue a few years back.  Pilot Oil still exists, but some of those involved in the illegal acts are behind bars or trying to avoid jail sentences.  

Trying to dissolve the NRA is purely a political move IMO.  Punish the one's who did wrong and bring in new leaders to correct this issues.

Pilot is a private company based in TN.  The NRA is a non-profit chartered in NY,  a State that has vast powers over “charitable” organizations.  Not really comparable at all.

Not only does NY want to dissolve the NRA, they want all the remaining assets forfeited to be given to other “charitable” organizations.  

Edited August 6, 2020 by Garufa

[jpx2rk]

35 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Pilot is a private company based in TN.  The NRA is a non-profit chartered in NY,  a State that has vast powers over “charitable” organizations.  Not really comparable at all.

Not only does NY want to dissolve the NRA, they want all the remaining assets forfeited to be given to other “charitable” organizations.  

Please define "vast" powers that NY has, versus the powers other states have over non-profit organizations.  

Corruption is corruption.  It only looks worse when it's a non-profit.  The public's trust is lost when corruption is thrown out on the table.  

[Patrick Henry]

Hmmm......charges made 3 months before the Presidential election. I wonder if the plan is for the MSM to be broadcasting this non stop. 

[MacGyver]

42 minutes ago, Patrick Henry said:

Hmmm......charges made 3 months before the Presidential election. I wonder if the plan is for the MSM to be broadcasting this non stop. 

If anything, that timing is likely to help the GOP more than it will the DNC.

I think this gives weight to “they’ll take your guns” and some folks might vote Republican who might otherwise be kind of blasé this cycle. 

[AuEagle]

If this atty gen wants to actually do some good, she should investigate the clinton foundation.

[btq96r]

https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/1291537690635239425?s=19

The guy writing the tweets in the thread I linked above is not an ally of gun owners, but he's basically parsing the juicy details of the lawsuit.  The avarice of WLP and friends is just amazing.

Edited August 7, 2020 by btq96r

[Whisper]

There's no question this suit was brought for political motives by an attorney general who ran for office on a platform of attacking the NRA.  She was going to charge them with something even if she had to make it up.  And it's certainly no accident that the charges were brought in the same week that the NRA announced it would be spending "tens of millions" in the coming election.

That said, Wayne LaPierre and his co-conspirators gave her the opening for bringing these charges by committing crimes.  

[Erik88]

38 minutes ago, Whisper said:

That said, Wayne LaPierre and his co-conspirators gave her the opening for bringing these charges by committing crimes.  

I'm curious how the law and order crowd will react. I'm seeing mixed responses online. If that AG can prove everything in that lawsuit then every one of them need to be in prison. My guess is that they will get a slap on the wrist. Hopefully the NRA will survive and end up better as a result but I have my doubts. 

[Whisper]

The NRA needs to reincorporate in another state where there's an attorney general interested in something other than politically motivated prosecutions.  It also needs different leadership and a board of directors of about 25 members, and strong bylaws against self-dealing.  I'd upgrade my Endowment membership and resume regular donations to the ILA if that happened.

[Grayfox54]

King Wayne got too caught up in playing politics. Instead of fighting the crooked politicians, he became one.