CCW and DUI/Treatment programs

[syztym]

Hello everyone. I have a question regarding CCW permit requirements with DUI and alcohol treatment programs. I know this isn't legal advice, I am just curious if anyone has personal experience or info on the matter.

TN CCW requirements state "Shall not be an unlawful user of or addicted to alcohol or any controlled substance and the applicant has not been a patient in a rehabilitation program or hospitalized for alcohol or controlled substance abuse or addiction within ten (10) years from the date of application"

AND

"The applicant has not been convicted of the offense of driving under the influence of an intoxicant in this or any other State two (2) or more times within ten (10) years from the date of application and that none of such convictions has occurred within five (5) years from the date of application or renewal."

However, DUI 1st and any following DUI convictions have the following "You will be ordered to participate in an alcohol and drug treatment program"

The way this is written makes it seem like ANY DUI conviction in the last 10 years will result in a denial due to the mandatory alcohol treatment on any DUI.

I have had 3 DUIs. One was around 2003 and the others were in 2013 (none were within the last 5 years). I was required to attend alcohol treatment as any DUI would require. I have been approved for firearm purchases, after having to appeal and get dispositions updated.

I have not done any drugs or alcohol since the 3rd DUI in 2013. 

I know my history is sh*tty. There is no excuse for how I was living back then. I've spent the last 7 years making it right. 

Anyone have any experience or info with this? 

Edited July 27, 2020 by syztym

[gregintenn]

No idea, but congratulations on turning your life around!

[syztym]

30 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

No idea, but congratulations on turning your life around!

Thank you. Everyday is a new day, and a day to do better than the last day. 

[jpx2rk]

+2 on your efforts.  Continue the battle to be successful.

[peejman]

I presume you could call TDOS and ask for clarification. The hard part will be finding someone who knows what they're talking about. 

Congrats on your progress, thats a tough hill to climb. 

[Pain103]

On 7/27/2020 at 5:41 PM, syztym said:

Hello everyone. I have a question regarding CCW permit requirements with DUI and alcohol treatment programs. I know this isn't legal advice, I am just curious if anyone has personal experience or info on the matter.

TN CCW requirements state "Shall not be an unlawful user of or addicted to alcohol or any controlled substance and the applicant has not been a patient in a rehabilitation program or hospitalized for alcohol or controlled substance abuse or addiction within ten (10) years from the date of application"

AND

"The applicant has not been convicted of the offense of driving under the influence of an intoxicant in this or any other State two (2) or more times within ten (10) years from the date of application and that none of such convictions has occurred within five (5) years from the date of application or renewal."

However, DUI 1st and any following DUI convictions have the following "You will be ordered to participate in an alcohol and drug treatment program"

The way this is written makes it seem like ANY DUI conviction in the last 10 years will result in a denial due to the mandatory alcohol treatment on any DUI.

I have had 3 DUIs. One was around 2003 and the others were in 2013 (none were within the last 5 years). I was required to attend alcohol treatment as any DUI would require. I have been approved for firearm purchases, after having to appeal and get dispositions updated.

I have not done any drugs or alcohol since the 3rd DUI in 2013. 

I know my history is sh*tty. There is no excuse for how I was living back then. I've spent the last 7 years making it right. 

Anyone have any experience or info with this? 

I think the “and” is going to get you. It doesn’t seem you have met the 10 year part. Just my thought. 

[syztym]

Here is an update. I had taken my Safety Course on 7/27, DMV visit on 7/29, and fingerprint on 7/30. This is an Enhanced Permit as well. I have been checking the DMV's online services daily, and today it states: "Your application was approved 06-Aug-2020. You should receive the card in the mail between 20-Aug-2020 and 27-Aug-2020."

Sounds like I am good to go.

[syztym]

Received my permit in the mail today!