HR 5717 - 2nd amendment be damned!

[Randall53]

I’m guessing the Democrats started this in January so it will be ready hoping for a clean sweep and complete control in November. A lot is riding on November.
 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text#toc-H0CE309557D6D4D78B1B29893582E4588

[hipower]

Well ####### and #########! That is a turd in the making! 

We, as gun owners, private citizens, and any other catagory affect by changes in the 2nd Amendment need to stand a scream loudly to their Representatives and Senators. 

If the Democrats win...we will required to be turning in firearms rather quickly.

I don't see many of us passing the new protocols. Not because of any laws broken. Just because I don't see anything but massive denials coming.

Ok, not well written, but I'm positively pissed by this. But you all know what I trying to say here.

[DaveTN]

Hence my previous statements about not wanting any Federal intervention on our carry laws. Normally I would say this has no chance of passing and its just so the left can say they are trying. Or that it’s a violation of States Rights and would not make it through the SCOTUS. But with what we are seeing now I’m pretty sure it would pass if the Democrats get control.

[hipower]

Dang it! I've lost my rant again! Am I hitting some bad keys while typing with a wrist/thumb brace on? Happened several times over the last few days.

Anyway, I was saying that I really wanted to be that ray of sunshine, that eternal optimist that all things will be good in a few days, weeks, months...

But my tin-foil-hat side is spooked. All the craziness and idiocy in politics and in the lib/marxist/Insert any group you like here: has me thinking that we are all well and truly shafted in the coming days.

Please tell me I'm wrong. I really want to feel better.

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by hipower

[Cruel Hand Luke]

If anyone has any doubts about the intentions of the democratic party or if anyone is still holding on to the notions that the party today resembles ANYTHING at all the party that their grandparents voted for then it is time for a reality check.

The election this fall largely is a referendum on the America that we grew up in and whether people want to continue to live in the most prosperous country in the history of mankind or whether you want to blow it all up and try a form of government (socialism/communism) that has failed and led to misery and genocide everywhere it has been instituted.

The choice is yours. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Cruel Hand Luke

[hipower]

7 minutes ago, Cruel Hand Luke said:

If anyone has any doubts about the intentions of the democratic party or if anyone is still holding on to the notions that the party today resembles ANYTHING at all the party that their grandparents voted for then it is time for a reality check.

The election this fall largely is a referendum on the America that we grew up in and whether people want to continue to live in the most prosperous country in the history of mankind or whether you want to blow it all up and try a form of government (socialism/communism) that has failed and led to misery and genocide everywhere it has been instituted.

The choice is yours. 

I really agree with you. Nothing else to say.

[Randall53]

Up until the pandemic, I felt like the conservatives had a good chance of keeping the WH and maybe even both houses. Not....not so sure. I know one thing for sure. I’m worried about the world the young members of my family and friends families are going to grow up in. Visions of Venezuela keep me up at night. That or Somalia when they try to confiscate American’s firearms.

[Raoul]

3 minutes ago, Randall53 said:

Up until the pandemic, I felt like the conservatives had a good chance of keeping the WH and maybe even both houses. Not....not so sure. I know one thing for sure. I’m worried about the world the young members of my family and friends families are going to grow up in. Visions of Venezuela keep me up at night. That or Somalia when they try to confiscate American’s firearms.

Trump's handling of the covid didn't do us any favors.

[Smith]

16 minutes ago, Raoul said:

Trump's handling of the covid didn't do us any favors.

Haha, his "handling" of a coordinated rigged political/media assassination was an impossible task. As Rahm Emanuel said, "never waste a good crisis." They failed with Russia, Kavanuagh, Media, CIA, FBI, etc. If it takes a pseudo pandemic, mixed with outright civil unrest/rebellion in Democrat cities just to make his reelection questionable ... I have some optimism. The Dems have gone completely over the edge just to get to close to even. That says a lot.

I could be wrong and I have no idea how it will play out in these uncharted waters or how far the dems will go to completely break a system they can't "win", but I heard this stuff before about Trump's possibilities and the naysayers (even the loud ones here) weren't just slightly wrong, they ended up being incredibly wrong.

Hang on, it will be interesting if nothing else.

[FUJIMO]

29 minutes ago, Raoul said:

Trump's handling of the covid didn't do us any favors.

Agreed, however, had his rival won a great many of us would have already had to make a choice to turn in certain "pieces" or become instant felons because something like this would have already been passed. I have zero faith that anyone in DC could have stopped it. 

Edited July 14, 2020 by FUJIMO

[FUJIMO]

3 minutes ago, Smith said:

Haha, his "handling" of a coordinated rigged political/media assassination was an impossible task. As Rahm Emanuel said, "never waste a good crisis." They failed with Russia, Kavanuagh, Media, CIA, FBI, etc. If it takes a pseudo pandemic, mixed with outright civil unrest/rebellion in Democrat cities just to make his reelection questionable ... I have some optimism. The Dems have gone completely over the edge just to get to close to even. That says a lot.

I could be wrong and I have no idea how it will play out in these uncharted waters or how far the dems will go to completely break a system they can't "win", but I heard this stuff before about Trump's possibilities and the naysayers (even the loud ones here) weren't just slightly wrong, they ended up being incredibly wrong.

Hang on, it will be interesting if nothing else.

Lol, glad someone other than me remembers the " he doesn't have a chance in hell " to " well I voted 3 party anyway"

[Randall53]

1 hour ago, Raoul said:

Trump's handling of the covid didn't do us any favors.

President’s are not doctors, nor pandemic specialist. They follow advice from those who are. Both Fucci and Birx are big democrat donors and I don’t trust any democrats. Especially those two based on their known history. Heaven knows what their unknown history is. My Opinion anyway.

[Raoul]

1 minute ago, Randall53 said:

President’s are not doctors, nor pandemic specialist. They follow advice from those who are. Both Fucci and Birx are big democrat donors and I don’t trust any democrats. Especially those two based on their known history. Heaven knows what their unknown history is. My Opinion anyway.

Easy for you to say. You don't have 30,000 NASCAR fans fixing to descend on you......lol

[jpx2rk]

8 minutes ago, Raoul said:

Easy for you to say. You don't have 30,000 NASCAR fans fixing to descend on you......lol

Better than the 150,000 it used to be. 

[nightrunner]

Ghost gun 3D printer go BRRRRRRRRR

[Raoul]

31 minutes ago, jpx2rk said:

Better than the 150,000 it used to be. 

But more contagious...

[krunchnik]

You guy's keep bringing this dead bill up-it only has 18 co-sponsors and the last action was in March-every month I see this coming back up-obviously it's getting passed around like a cheap date.

 

[hipower]

3 hours ago, krunchnik said:

You guy's keep bringing this dead bill up-it only has 18 co-sponsors and the last action was in March-every month I see this coming back up-obviously it's getting passed around like a cheap date.

 

But those cheap dates are the best kind! At least they were for me back then. lol

[Randall53]

16 hours ago, krunchnik said:

You guy's keep bringing this dead bill up-it only has 18 co-sponsors and the last action was in March-every month I see this coming back up-obviously it's getting passed around like a cheap date.

 

And you keep opening posts about it to read them? LOL. 

[krunchnik]

7 hours ago, Randall53 said:

And you keep opening posts about it to read them? LOL. 

Yup-there is a sucker born every minute-actually I am stuck in a time loop-every time someone posts on this topic I get a notice-gonna have to fix that I suppose.

[Randall53]

LOL. Groundhog Day!