SARS-2-CoV (COVID-19)

[Omega]

Anyone seen this, long video but one worth a looksee.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

[bud]

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Edited December 24, 2020 by bud

[AuEagle]

Well, one thing about this Kung-Flu. It has successfully eradicated every other disease & addiction out there.

Edited July 28, 2020 by AuEagle

[Moped]

Knox County's new numbers form this morning.  167 new cases, 1893 active cases. with three more deaths for a total of 26.  Hospitalizations are going down though. Only 37 currently in the hospital.

[DaveTN]

19 hours ago, Omega said:

Anyone seen this, long video but one worth a looksee.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

I watched the full video yesterday after it was posted. It’s hard for me to believe that people would rather see Americans die than admit that Hydroxychloroquine could help.

I do not know any of the Doctors in that video, but here are their names, the media is quickly trying to assassinate their reputations and social media platforms are call them “non-professionals”.

Dr. Simone Gold, emergency medicine specialist LA, Ca

Dr. Bob Hamilton, pediatrician from Santa Monica, California

Dr. Stella Immanuel, primary care physician in Houston, Texas 350 and counting, has not lost one.

Dr. Dan Erikson, Accelerated Urgent Care in Bakersfield, CA

Dr. Joe Ladapo, physician and health policy researcher UCLA

Dr. James Todaro, Ophthalmology Specialist in Dearborn, MI.

The above video was removed from Social Media platforms like Facebook and Twitter. Twitter suspended Trump Jr. for posting it. Tucker did a good show last night addressing how the media and sites like Google, Facebook and Twitter are determining what we see. It’s worth the watch.

 

 

 

[deerslayer]

Like I said earlier on this thread or another thread or who knows, too many leftists are getting real or perceived political benefits from COVID to let it go away any time soon.  CNN said the video contained "misinformation."  How does CNN know?  They would rather damage Trump than address a virus.  

[Oh Shoot]

1 hour ago, DaveTN said:

I watched the full video yesterday after it was posted. It’s hard for me to believe that people would rather see Americans die than admit that Hydroxychloroquine could help.

I do not know any of the Doctors in that video, but here are their names, the media is quickly trying to assassinate their reputations and social media platforms are call them “non-professionals”.

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Dr. Stella Immanuel, primary care physician in Houston, Texas 350 and counting, has not lost one.

Yes, she's particularly impressive, who Trump called "spectacular".

I'm really impressed by her assertion that astral demons cause many physical problems by screwing women in their sleep and that many of our leaders are reptilian blends of human and alien DNA,.

Meanwhile, now that we are in the 21 hot spot states, Brix visited TN in person Monday to plead with Lee to institute some sane responses known to be effective, but of course he blew her off.

- OS

[DaveTN]

19 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Yes, she's particularly impressive, who Trump called "spectacular".

I'm really impressed by her assertion that astral demons cause many physical problems by screwing women in their sleep and that many of our leaders are reptilian blends of human and alien DNA,.

And you are happy to jump right onboard with that. That’s okay with me, but you should be able to hear what she was to say; wouldn’t you agree? I watched her and I thought she was very passionate. She claims to have treated 350 patients with treatments that include Hydroxychloroquine and has not lost a single patient. I have no idea if that’s true, but it shouldn’t be hard for the CDC to check. I know if I were in Houston I would want to go to her if I had Covid. I wouldn’t care anymore about her opinions on Extraterrestrials and Witches than I care about my Doctors (or any Doctors) opinions on guns.

19 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Meanwhile, now that we are in the 21 hot spot states, Brix visited TN in person Monday to plead with Lee to institute some sane responses known to be effective, but of course he blew her off.

What is it you want him to do?

I understand that you are afraid of this…so am I. But if there is a drug that can help in the early stages, instead of waiting until the patient is near death; that should be a choice between me and my Doctor.

Donald Trump isn’t a Doctor and I could care less what he has to say about it; he is repeating what he is told. The six people I posted above appear to be medical professionals that are treating patients. You picked one and decided her beliefs about things not related to this virus make her unbelievable to you. You based that on information made available to you by Google. That’s fine, but why is that information available and the left wants desperately to censor what these Doctors have to say?

[Omega]

39 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

And you are happy to jump right onboard with that. That’s okay with me, but you should be able to hear what she was to say; wouldn’t you agree? I watched her and I thought she was very passionate. She claims to have treated 350 patients with treatments that include Hydroxychloroquine and has not lost a single patient. I have no idea if that’s true, but it shouldn’t be hard for the CDC to check. I know if I were in Houston I would want to go to her if I had Covid. I wouldn’t care anymore about her opinions on Extraterrestrials and Witches than I care about my Doctors (or any Doctors) opinions on guns.

What is it you want him to do?

I understand that you are afraid of this…so am I. But if there is a drug that can help in the early stages, instead of waiting until the patient is near death; that should be a choice between me and my Doctor.

Donald Trump isn’t a Doctor and I could care less what he has to say about it; he is repeating what he is told. The six people I posted above appear to be medical professionals that are treating patients. You picked one and decided her beliefs about things not related to this virus make her unbelievable to you. You based that on information made available to you by Google. That’s fine, but why is that information available and the left wants desperately to censor what these Doctors have to say?

Early on I did some research on the malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine, found all kinds or studies, done way before this china virus, which found it helped corona viruses. 

Even MSM can't spin this

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/study-finds-hydroxychloroquine-helped-coronavirus-patients-survive-better/ar-BB16hifu

 

Stopped the study, yet says probably won't help????

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/06/20/881260031/nih-halts-hydroxychloroquine-study-says-unlikely-to-help-covid-19-patients

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NIH Halts Hydroxychloroquine Study

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In a statement issued on Saturday, the agency said that although it did not appear hydroxychloroquine caused harm to patients in the study, it was also "very unlikely to be beneficial."

Now, we have a few studies pop up that say it doesn't and actually hurts people..a couple were retracted now, what changed?  You have to ask yourself, why are they harping on the number of people that come up positive and not on those that actually get admitted and those that die?  Worse case scenario you have an 85.20% chance of surviving this China Virus:

From the MSM, where do they get their data?  How is it that they can claim a statement partly false, though everything they site say it is true?

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-19/coronavirus-odds-of-survival

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Among patients of all ages without preexisting medical conditions, the fatality rate was 1.4%, the panel found. That compares with 13.2% for those with cardiovascular disease, 9.2% for those with diabetes, 8.4% for people with hypertension, 8% for patients with chronic respiratory disease and 7.6% for those with cancer.

Meanwhile, patients aged 80 and over died at a rate of 21.9%.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/05/05/covid-19-fact-check-coronavirus-mortality-rate-misleading/3019503001/

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Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, testified to Congress in March that the mortality rate may be as low as 1% when accounting for people who are infected but don’t develop symptoms severe enough to be tested. To Fauci, given how infectious the new coronavirus has proven to be, that is a very dire figure.

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It is true that the overall rate may be 1% or lower, when factoring in those infected by the coronavirus who were never tested. But definitive statements about the mortality rate are misleading to the point of falsehood. We rule the claim that COVID-19 has a survival rate of 98.5% to be PARTLY FALSE, based on our research.

From outside the MSM;

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51674743

This is a Chinese Study:

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2020/03/03/What-are-the-chances-of-dying-if-you-contract-the-coronavirus-

[Erik88]

Let me get this straight. For months you guys have dismissed any and all medical experts but now that some people have come forward with an opinion that backs up the president you suddenly take it as gospel.  Surely, this woman must be right "Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches."

"America's Frontline Doctors is a collection of physicians critical of the scientific consensus around the pandemic. Their event was backed by the Tea Party Patriots, a conservative organisation seeking to re-elect President Trump."

I think I'll continue to find genuine medical research and try not to listen to a woman who "alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious".... 

Ya'll do you though. I'm sure Breitbart is the pinnacle of truth...

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Erik88

[Omega]

16 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

Let me get this straight. For months you guys have dismissed any and all medical experts but now that some people have come forward with an opinion that backs up the president you suddenly take it as gospel.  Surely, this woman must be right "Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches."

"America's Frontline Doctors is a collection of physicians critical of the scientific consensus around the pandemic. Their event was backed by the Tea Party Patriots, a conservative organisation seeking to re-elect President Trump."

I think I'll continue to find genuine medical research and try not to listen to a woman who "alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious".... 

Ya'll do you though. I'm sure Breitbart is the pinnacle of truth...

 

I have been paying close attention to this from the get-go.  There have been reports from more than these guys, for months now, saying the drug regimen works.  Studies well before this virus, used on corona, says they work,  but now they don't and are dangerous?  

I thought that lady was a bit over the top, the other guys not so much.  She is getting all the attention due to her outspoken ways, I get it, but what of the other MDs?  What about all the studies and reports done outside of this political debacle?

[deerslayer]

33 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

Let me get this straight. For months you guys have dismissed any and all medical experts but now that some people have come forward with an opinion that backs up the president you suddenly take it as gospel.  

I don’t think anyone here is taking anything as gospel.  On the other hand, it is odd how some get their panties in a wad when anyone in the medical community says something that is even remotely similar to anything Trump said or quoted or supports.  What is even more bizarre is that MSM and left social media immediately censor material that is favorable to Trump and/or hinders their agenda.  

Edited July 29, 2020 by deerslayer

[E4 No More]

35 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

Let me get this straight. For months you guys have dismissed any and all medical experts but now that some people have come forward with an opinion that backs up the president you suddenly take it as gospel.  Surely, this woman must be right "Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches."

"America's Frontline Doctors is a collection of physicians critical of the scientific consensus around the pandemic. Their event was backed by the Tea Party Patriots, a conservative organisation seeking to re-elect President Trump."

I think I'll continue to find genuine medical research and try not to listen to a woman who "alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious".... 

Ya'll do you though. I'm sure Breitbart is the pinnacle of truth...

 

A couple hundred years ago, cutting edge science was to perform blood-letting and leeches. 

Ignoring the crazy doctor, it's very foolish to ignore the power that the AMA has over their doctors and the power that pharmaceutical companies have over the AMA.

The only valid study is one that is a double-blind study of a broad pool of patients. Ask yourself why this isn't being done.

Edited July 29, 2020 by E4 No More

[Erik88]

4 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

I don’t think anyone here is taking anything as gospel

That would be incorrect. PLENTY of people took that video serious. My mom sent it to me yesterday and said "DID YOU SEE THIS!!!?". It had nearly 20 million views.

[quedz]

N/A

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by hughd

[deerslayer]

2 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

That would be incorrect. PLENTY of people took that video serious. My mom sent it to me yesterday and said "DID YOU SEE THIS!!!?". It had nearly 20 million views.

Your mother is a TGO member?

[quedz]

22 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

 

 

14 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

 

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by hughd
Never mind, I'm going back to my book...

[deerslayer]

. For months you guys have dismissed any and all medical experts but now that some people have come forward with an opinion that backs up the president you suddenly take it as gospel. 

Edited July 29, 2020 by deerslayer

[Erik88]

25 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

Your mother is a TGO member?

Not that I'm aware of. But it's clear there are people here that are defending the doctors in the video. But you already knew that and you're just looking to argue I guess. 

[Alleycat72]

Some people are so angry. 

[deerslayer]

8 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

Not that I'm aware of. But it's clear there are people here that are defending the doctors in the video. But you already knew that and you're just looking to argue I guess. 

Well I’m not the only one. 
 

“Defending the doctors” and taking something “as gospel” are two different things.  I still wonder why these doctors were censored.  

[DaveTN]

I took the press conference in that video serious. If it turns out to be a hoax; shame on me, I’ll carry on.

My point, for those that couldn’t understand it, was that this information is being censored on social media.

I’m not a Doctor, I don’t pretend to be one, and I don’t play one on TV. I don’t base my judgements about medical issues on what a President that spent his life as a contractor repeats.

I am a grown intelligent adult that would like all the information about a subject I can get. So that then, I can make informed decisions about the subject.

When it comes to medical information that may impact me, and is being touted by thousands of medical professionals; I would like to hear it. I would then like to hear what other medical professions ae saying. So far, I haven’t heard any medical professional that treats Covid patients say that these drugs have zero impact.

I know there are some that desperately want that to be the case, so they can blame it on Trump. Trump has nothing to do with this. Unless he is calling your Doctor, or unless your Doctor is making decisions on treatments based on what is said in a press conference. If that’s the case you might want to find another Doctor.

It’s a shame that some find this funny. I hope they never need this information to make an informed decision and can’t get it because the social media they use censored it.

Thankfully this forum hasn’t censored the political and medical information that had eclipsed everything else in our day to day lives. 

[peejman]

1 hour ago, deerslayer said:

Well I’m not the only one. 
 

“Defending the doctors” and taking something “as gospel” are two different things.  I still wonder why these doctors were censored.  

Right, the censorship hypocrisy bugs me more than anything.  All are guilty of that, as far as I can tell. 

We live in a world of instant gratification, info at our fingertips. We want answers and we want them now. The idea that it will take months into years to study and understand this well enough to draw useful conclusions isn't comprehensible for a lot of people.

As I've told my bosses at work... 9 women can't have a baby in a month. Some things take time no matter what you throw at them. We don't have the patience anymore, the world moves too fast. 

[gregintenn]

I’m simply trying to discern the truth. It damned sure ain’t on the 6 o’clock news, and certainly isn’t guaranteed to come from everyone who dons a white lab coat.

We have been conditioned to believe certain groups of people no matter what. This is used to take advantage of us.

I have determined that when something doesn’t look right to me, it usually isn’t, and someone usually stands to gain financially from it.

[Links2k]

 I find it difficult to believe that if Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine were effective against COVID-19 on a large scale there is no way that pharmaceutical companies would not be manufacturing both twenty four hours a day, and raping people for $1200.00 per pill.

I’m skeptical of most preachers, and I understand that doctors are licensed to practice medicine, but there is no way I’m listening to the demon seed and alien DNA doctor. If that’s your cup of tea, so be it.