SARS-2-CoV (COVID-19)

[JunkiCosmonaut]

On 12/28/2020 at 4:01 PM, Daniel said:

Welcome to the Scientific Method.

I too like to test my experimental mRNA therapy on children. Especially pregnant women. 

"Its like ScIeNcE.... im like.... so much smarter than you kuz like....I like.....science. im a science zer...science. science science. If I keep saying science do I sound smart.... SCIENCE lol" 

In all seriousness you gotta do what you gotta do but I surely hope that we let this rock along a good while longer before giving it to kids and pregnant women. Whatever the conciquences a child has to live with it forever. 

Edited December 30, 2020 by JunkiCosmonaut

[Alleycat72]

LOL 

I can't smell s%=t.

 

[deerslayer]

1 hour ago, Oh Shoot said:

A bit far fetched, IMNSHO.

Possibly so, but the premise was that businesses should get to make determinations on who comes in.  ERs are businesses.  

[Garufa]

9 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

Possibly so, but the premise was that businesses should get to make determinations on who comes in.  ERs are businesses.  

There is a federal law requiring ER’s to accept patients.

[deerslayer]

12 hours ago, Garufa said:

There is a federal law requiring ER’s to accept patients.

And hopefully that law remains.  I wouldn't put anything past the loons who are about to be running the country.  

[Moped]

2 hours ago, deerslayer said:

And hopefully that law remains.  I wouldn't put anything past the loons who are about to be running the country.  

Don't see that there is going to be much difference from the one running it right now.

[FUJIMO]

25 minutes ago, Moped said:

Don't see that there is going to be much difference from the one running it right now.

A familiar tune from BTO comes to mind

[Moped]

9 minutes ago, FUJIMO said:

A familiar tune from BTO comes to mind

The Who comes to mind for me.

 

"Won't Get Fooled Again"
 

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Oh I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by the bye
And a parting on the left
Is now a parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

[FUJIMO]

1 minute ago, Moped said:

The Who comes to mind for me.

 

"Won't Get Fooled Again"
 

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they are flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Oh I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by the bye
And a parting on the left
Is now a parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Make that 2 songs

[deerslayer]

38 minutes ago, Moped said:

Don't see that there is going to be much difference from the one running it right now.

I hope you don’t eat your words.  

[Omega]

1 hour ago, Moped said:

Don't see that there is going to be much difference from the one running it right now.

We will see come Jan 20.

[DaveTN]

5 minutes ago, Omega said:

We will see come Jan 20.

According to him it will be a busy day. Personally I think after all the inauguration festivities; he’ll go back and nap the rest of the day and not do anything. But as you say, we shall see.

[Omega]

2 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

According to him it will be a busy day. Personally I think after all the inauguration festivities; he’ll go back and nap the rest of the day and not do anything. But as you say, we shall see.

I am sure his crew will be busy drawing up things for him to rubber stamp.

[hipower]

1 hour ago, Moped said:

Don't see that there is going to be much difference from the one running it right now.

I pray that you are right. I fear you are wrong.

[Moped]

57 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

I hope you don’t eat your words.  

As far as COVID goes. I'm worried about other things though, not related to COVID.  This is going to be a disaster for us if the Democrats win both Senate seats in Georgia on the 6th.  I am worried.  

But I was worried with Trump too, so not a whole lots changed.  I have never seen Trump as a friend of ours when it came to 2A.  He turned on 2A quickly after Las Vegas, as I predicted.  

[Lumber_Jack]

Well I said I would take one the moment it was available. Here it is. 
 

 

[btq96r]

On 12/29/2020 at 3:17 PM, deerslayer said:

It’s not clear if we are talking about .gov or business owners.  Probably both.  I’m all for property rights, but should hospitals (most of which are privately owned) be able to choose to turn away car wreck or gunshot victims who don’t have proof of a vaccination?

They aren't turning away COVID-19 patients at the current time.  Even if the laws requiring them to treat emergency patients were amended, I can't see a change when enough of the population is vaccinated to let this stop being pandemic level.

Edited December 31, 2020 by btq96r

[Oh Shoot]

TN average daily Covid deaths (updated 2PM daily):

March      0.7  (first death 3/21/20)
April         5.8
May          5.3
June         8.0
July        14.7
Aug       22.5
Sept      23.2
Oct        29.0
Nov       41.9
Dec       74.3

total TN deaths: 6.907

IHME projection based on current projection scenario by April 1, 2021: 13,936

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https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov/data/downloadable-datasets.html

file: Daily Case Information.  direct link to file:

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/datasets/Public-Dataset-Daily-Case-Info.XLSX

- OS

 

[GlockSpock]

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[E4 No More]

On 12/28/2020 at 3:01 PM, Daniel said:

Welcome to the Scientific Method.

And how many drug recalls have come out of the scientific method?

And just in case you are entertaining the idea that I'm some uneducated redneck who's just spouting off, you should know that it's a pretty good bet that I've had more collegiate level instruction in the physical and health sciences than the majority of people on TGO. You should also know that I am taking the vaccine when the VA will give it to me as it is a personal risk analysis decision.

[peejman]

31 minutes ago, E4 No More said:

And how many drug recalls have come out of the scientific method?

And just in case you are entertaining the idea that I'm some uneducated redneck who's just spouting off, you should know that it's a pretty good bet that I've had more collegiate level instruction in the physical and health sciences than the majority of people on TGO. You should also know that I am taking the vaccine when the VA will give it to me as it is a personal risk analysis decision.

The common mistake made with the scientific method is the motivation behind the experiment(s) is to disprove the hypothesis.  And you keep experimenting until you can't disprove it. Else its too easy to end up with a self fulfilling result, which is what the funding agency typically wants. Quick answers, not exhaustive research in our instant gratification society. 

[E4 No More]

2 minutes ago, peejman said:

The common mistake made with the scientific method is the motivation behind the experiment(s) is to disprove the hypothesis.  And you keep experimenting until you can't disprove it. Else its too easy to end up with a self fulfilling result, which is what the funding agency typically wants. Quick answers, not exhaustive research in our instant gratification society. 

When I began my journey into science I was taught that the first rule was to keep an open mind to all explanations. That's out the window when money is involved. "Publish or Perish" is a bane on the scientific world.

[Snaveba]

A hypothesis (or allegation)  is false  until you prove it is true, not true until you prove it false. It is not the in role science (or law) to disprove, but to prove. 
 

Just because I say it happened, does not mean it happened. I have to prove it happened.  

[Snaveba]

If I said “ you kicked a puppy” I have to prove you kicked a puppy.  I don’t say to you “prove you did not kick a puppy”

[Moped]

On 12/28/2020 at 12:55 PM, Moped said:

New cases for Knox County have flattened out over the last couple days, but deaths continue to rise.  New cases in the last 9 days have gone up 3,193, while deaths went from 258 to 306, for a total of 48 deaths.

Stat's taken from the daily report by the Knox County Health Department.

Now back to our normal arguments! 

Well, it's not been a kind week for COVID patients in area hospitals.  Since last Monday there have been 47 deaths attributed to COVID.  the new  death toll is now 353.  Daily postive cases have declined from previous weeks.  Since I last reported here, there have been 2,317 new positive cases.

Stat's taken from the daily report by the Knox County Health Department.