SARS-2-CoV (COVID-19)

[GlockSpock]

 

[Daniel]

6 hours ago, Omega said:

There are hundreds if not thousands of people that would agree with this, had the shot not killed them.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/verify/no-the-cdcs-vaers-database-does-not-show-thousands-of-people-have-died-from-covid-19-vaccines-coronavirus/531-952c2b9c-8b99-48cf-9b9a-ead716781b67

 

story is from sept 10.

377 million covid-19 vaccinations in the us.  3 confirmed deaths from clotting issues.  That's it.

0.0018% all from J&J vaccine.
 

Edited September 30, 2021 by Daniel

[GlockSpock]

And arguably more important, let’s say all of the “deaths” from the vaccine were all from the vaccine. Put that over 377 million, or even half of 377 (to account for the two shots). 

[GlockSpock]

In other words, if 100,000 people actually 100% died from the vaccine, what is that in comparison to the actual virus?

People Died/People Vaccinated

People Died/Cases of COVID 

[Garufa]

1 hour ago, GlockSpock said:

 

The devil music provides a fantastic soundtrack to that clown’s performance.

[Oh Shoot]

I got both the Pfizer booster and the Super Duper Geezer Flu shots today.

All good so far cept noticed after I got home that the young lass at Kroger put the wrong label on my CDC card, sigh.

- OS

[MacGyver]

We crossed 15,000 deaths in Tennessee this week.

On a positive note, 3.4 billion people have been vaccinated worldwide.  That’s half of humanity. 

[deerslayer]

2 hours ago, Daniel said:

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/verify/no-the-cdcs-vaers-database-does-not-show-thousands-of-people-have-died-from-covid-19-vaccines-coronavirus/531-952c2b9c-8b99-48cf-9b9a-ead716781b67

 

story is from sept 10.

377 million covid-19 vaccinations in the us.  3 confirmed deaths from clotting issues.  That's it.

0.0018% all from J&J vaccine.
 

How many cases of myocarditis/pericarditis?

I don't understand how anyone could dispute VAERS numbers.  VAERS uses the same methods that were used to report covid cases and deaths.  

[GlockSpock]

15 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

How many cases of myocarditis/pericarditis?

I don't understand how anyone could dispute VAERS numbers.  VAERS uses the same methods that were used to report covid cases and deaths.  

Well...first off, look at their site:

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

Look at 2. If you wanted to, you could report an "adverse effect" after receiving a vaccine. You could stub your toe on the way out of the clinic but that doesn't mean the vaccine caused it. But guess what, if 35% of people that get a vaccine stub their toe, maybe that means it affects their depth perception.

I think I queried the data right on the site. After selecting vaccines for COVID-19, theoretically data for all three of them being used in the US would show up.

Myocarditis shows up in 6 different places on the list, the "biggest" of the listings is 1,647.

Pericarditis shows up 4 different places, the "biggest" of the listings is 1,082.

61 cases of hip fracture show up, and 8 cases of hip surgery. Heck, maybe we could just give the vaccines to people that need hip replacement, apparently it takes care of it for them.

I'm not saying that the data isn't important, but seriously, query this and look through the list yourself. It's telling.

[Daniel]

1 hour ago, GlockSpock said:

Well...first off, look at their site:

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

Look at 2. If you wanted to, you could report an "adverse effect" after receiving a vaccine. You could stub your toe on the way out of the clinic but that doesn't mean the vaccine caused it. But guess what, if 35% of people that get a vaccine stub their toe, maybe that means it affects their depth perception.

I think I queried the data right on the site. After selecting vaccines for COVID-19, theoretically data for all three of them being used in the US would show up.

Myocarditis shows up in 6 different places on the list, the "biggest" of the listings is 1,647.

Pericarditis shows up 4 different places, the "biggest" of the listings is 1,082.

61 cases of hip fracture show up, and 8 cases of hip surgery. Heck, maybe we could just give the vaccines to people that need hip replacement, apparently it takes care of it for them.

I'm not saying that the data isn't important, but seriously, query this and look through the list yourself. It's telling.

 

1 hour ago, deerslayer said:

How many cases of myocarditis/pericarditis?

I don't understand how anyone could dispute VAERS numbers.  VAERS uses the same methods that were used to report covid cases and deaths.  

Check VAERS own FAQ.  They say they are not reliable on their own site.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

 

How do I report to VAERS?

Click here to submit a report to VAERS.

 

Who can report to VAERS?

VAERS accepts reports from anyone. Patients, parents, caregivers and healthcare providers (HCP) are encouraged to report adverse events after vaccination to VAERS even if it is not clear that the vaccine caused the adverse event. In addition, HCP are required to report certain adverse events after vaccination.

What are the strengths and limitations of VAERS?

One of the main limitations of VAERS data is that it cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event. This limitation has caused confusion in the publicly available data from VAERS WONDER, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. There have been instances where people have misinterpreted reports of deaths following vaccination as deaths caused by the vaccines; that is not accurate. VAERS accepts all reports of adverse health events following vaccinations without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS represent true vaccine reactions and others are coincidental adverse health events and not related to vaccination. Overall, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS report alone.

Strengths of VAERS:

 

• VAERS collects national data from all U.S. states and territories
• VAERS accepts reports from anyone
• The VAERS form collects information about the vaccine, the person vaccinated and the adverse event
• Data are publicly available
• VAERS can be used as an early warning system to identify rare adverse events
• VAERS is a tool for identifying potential vaccine safety concerns that need further study using more robust data systems

Limitations of VAERS:

 

• It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
• Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors
• Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events
• Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
• VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events
   

  Are all adverse events reported to VAERS caused by vaccines?

  No. Some adverse events might be caused by vaccination and others might be coincidental and not related to vaccination. Just because an adverse event happened after a person received a vaccine does not mean the vaccine caused the adverse event.

  VAERS accepts reports of adverse events following vaccination without judging the cause or seriousness of the event. VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused an adverse event, but it is good at detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of reporting that might indicate possible safety problems that need a closer look.
  
  
   

Did you watch the video I posted?  There is a post on there saying it causes zombies or some ####.

Edited October 1, 2021 by Daniel

[deerslayer]

Sounds similar to “Grandpa was an obese diabetic chain smoker who was rushed to the ER after having a heart attack, but his death got chalked up as covid…”

[Omega]

5 hours ago, Daniel said:

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/verify/no-the-cdcs-vaers-database-does-not-show-thousands-of-people-have-died-from-covid-19-vaccines-coronavirus/531-952c2b9c-8b99-48cf-9b9a-ead716781b67

 

story is from sept 10.

377 million covid-19 vaccinations in the us.  3 confirmed deaths from clotting issues.  That's it.

0.0018% all from J&J vaccine.
 

3???

https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/07/22/cdc-corrects-number-of-reported-deaths-after-covid-vaccines-by-dumping-foreign-reports/

Even the "fact" checkers are reporting more than 3.  And yea, CDC says says they can't prove causality, but can't disprove it either.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-deleted-idUSL1N2P91JS

 

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An archived version of the page captured at 17:41 GMT on July 20 shows 6,079 reports of deaths (here).

The next capture was taken at 21:02 GMT on July 20 showing 12,313 reports of deaths (here).

The number reverted back to 6,079, as seen in a capture at 18:54 GMT on July 21 (here). It was then updated to 6,207 reports of death in a capture at 01:39 GMT on July 22 (here).

 

[xsubsailor]

 Fauci can't accept the fact that there are people that don't listen to him. After all, he considers himself the lone expert on Covid.

Fauci pressed if he should 'step aside' as an 'impediment to public health': 'People won't listen to you'

'A significant part of America now have lost confidence in you,' Hugh Hewitt told Fauci

https://www.foxnews.com/media/anthony-fauci-hugh-hewitt-interview

[jgradyc]

On 9/29/2021 at 2:20 PM, mikegideon said:

Evan Williams is great. You don't have to mix it with anything.

I switched from Evan Williams to Jameson.

[mikegideon]

6 minutes ago, jgradyc said:

I switched from Evan Williams to Jameson.

I love Irish whiskey. But, I'm a Bushmills guy.

Edited October 1, 2021 by mikegideon

[Quavodus]

5 hours ago, xsubsailor said:

 Fauci can't accept the fact that there are people that don't listen to him. After all, he considers himself the lone expert on Covid.

Fauci pressed if he should 'step aside' as an 'impediment to public health': 'People won't listen to you'

'A significant part of America now have lost confidence in you,' Hugh Hewitt told Fauci

https://www.foxnews.com/media/anthony-fauci-hugh-hewitt-interview

Yeah, he can't believe in his all knowing world that a large percentage of people don't listen to him or trust him. By the way, I think his ego may apply for statehood. 

[MacGyver]

Merck plans to file for EUA status this week for Molnupiravir as a antiviral treatment (think Tamiflu)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/01/pill-to-treat-covid/

 

 

[GlockSpock]

4 hours ago, MacGyver said:

Merck plans to file for EUA status this week for Molnupiravir as a antiviral treatment (think Tamiflu)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/01/pill-to-treat-covid/

 

 

Having something that hopefully will help prevent serious COVID infections, especially for people that might trust it but are vaccine hesitant, is a very good thing.

But the internet told me it is rebranded Ivermectin.

[Oh Shoot]

16 minutes ago, GlockSpock said:

...

But the internet told me it is rebranded Ivermectin.

Nah, Drano.

- OS

[GlockSpock]

3 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Nah, Drano.

- OS

I believe you, but I think it is mixed 50/50 with Crisco.

[GlockSpock]

It sorta...lubes things up inside you.

[mikegideon]

52 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Nah, Drano.

- OS

I'm hearing that maybe ivermectin ain't all that hot. But, if you yell at some doctors, they will give you the good stuff. Got this in a text from my brother earlier today.

 

[Daniel]

9 hours ago, MacGyver said:

Merck plans to file for EUA status this week for Molnupiravir as a antiviral treatment (think Tamiflu)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/10/01/pill-to-treat-covid/

 

 

So I was listening to NPR talking about this. I feel like people will not like the genetic mutation aspect lol.

Edited October 2, 2021 by Daniel

[gregintenn]

18 hours ago, mikegideon said:

I love Irish whiskey. But, I'm a Bushmills guy.

I've never tried Irish Whiskey. If it's anything like Scotch, I'll pass.

[mikegideon]

1 hour ago, gregintenn said:

I've never tried Irish Whiskey. If it's anything like Scotch, I'll pass.

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