Jump to content

SARS-2-CoV (COVID-19)


Recommended Posts

Posted
5 hours ago, TGO David said:

 If the reason you don't want to wear a mask, is because it doesn't help you directly, you might need to consider whether you're being a selfish asshole or not because I am pretty sure that anyone who does wear a mask is helping you

Quoting this from a spot on post to save space...

I remind myself of the primary purpose for wearing the mask all the time, which is as you said to take care of others over myself.  There are two ends of the professional spectrum I come into contact with a lot...the Radiologists I work with and service industry (grocery store, restaurants mainly), and they both need others to be reasonable. 

For the rads, I want to make sure my practice has the bench depth to keep shifts staffed with healthy and rested physicains sticking needles in people under ultrasound guidance, reading your ED scans, mammograms, and oncology PETs.

For the service workers, I would absolutely feel like a heel if I was the reason somebody who needs that hourly pay had to sit at home for two weeks, and possibly have a hefty medical bill on top of it.  A lot of people are hurting right now, and I feel a sense of duty to make sure folks willing to show up at work don't lose out because of me.

It's kind of ironic that there is a not so small subset of "government isn't the answer" types who aren't stepping up when an individual action as simple as the mask wearing for the collective good is the best thing we can do to keep the country open and the government from taking the case numbers into a new series of authority we'll never get them to relinquish.

  • Like 4
Posted (edited)
On 1/20/2021 at 12:11 PM, Moped said:

Haven't reported in a while.  Honestly the news has been mostly better.  We did not see a Christmas/New Years Bump in new cases.  The curve has been flattening out  for the most part.  Today saw only 85 new cases reported, after a week of of hovering around 200 per day range. We were in the 300's the week before. That might have been the Christmas/New Years bump.  If so, I was no where near as bad as the Thanksgiving Bump.  

The bad news, (and there is bad news) is that since my last report, 14 days ago, has seen the number of deaths rise to 423.  That's an increase 70 over a two week period.

Stats taken from the Daily Report by the Knox County Health Department.

Nationally, yesterday was a new daily death record.

And we're still not looking well state wide. Running ahead of last month with daily death rate so far, though this week we fell significantly below the first two of the month.

Dec 1-7    407  
Dec 8-14   532  
Dec 15-21  595 
Dec 22-28  452 
Dec 29-31  319 

total: 2,305 = 74.3 deaths per day


(2021)
Jan 1-7      585   
jan 8-14    740   
jan 15-21  452

total: 1,777 = 84.6 deaths per day.

- OS

 

Edited by Oh Shoot
Posted

Talk about beating this horse to death how many times over.... Plan on everyone getting this at some point, Vaccinated or not. It will spread threw out just like the rest of the social viruses.  Look up Ivermectine and vitamins to start and be done with it. Now that the Evil orange guy is out, its safe for the lefty states to open up...... give me a break. Sheep will all ways need a herder.

  • Like 3
  • Thanks 1
Posted

Since the media seems to sensationalize everything related to COVID, I thought everyone would be glad to know that the 7-day COVID case rate has trended downward in Tennessee since December 17th. On Dec 17th, the 7-day moving average number of COVID cases was 9,600. Today, it's 3,228. Tennessee has fewer cases per capita than most other states in the US. Data can be seen at the CDC COVID Data Tracker. It's an interactive website so it might require a few clicks to find the data, but you can compare TN with other states and with the US averages.

The death rates are more erratic, but the trend there is also down.

 https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases

Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, jgradyc said:

Since the media seems to sensationalize everything related to COVID, I thought everyone would be glad to know that the 7-day COVID case rate has trended downward in Tennessee since December 17th.....

The death rates are more erratic, but the trend there is also down.

TN deaths have certainly NOT trended down so far, currently the highest average ever, including the highest single day ever on Tues (192). The current week has indeed soared from third week.

Dec 1-7    407 
Dec 8-14   532 
Dec 15-21  595 
Dec 22-28  452 
Dec 29-31  319 

total: 2,305 = 74.3 per day

(2021)
Jan 1-7   585   
Jan 8-14  740    
Jan 15-21 452
Jan 22-28 733

total: 2,510 = 89.6 per day

(with 3 days left in Jan).

Death counts are of course a lagging indicator up or down dependent on case counts and the more direct and reliable stat,  hospitalizations. So unless the strains turn more deadly, the death counts should go down as hospitalizations go down, but it hasn't happened yet.

- OS

 

Edited by Oh Shoot
  • Like 1
Posted (edited)
On 1/28/2021 at 4:39 PM, Oh Shoot said:

TN deaths have certainly NOT trended down so far, currently the highest average ever, including the highest single day ever on Tues (192). The current week has indeed soared from third week.

Dec 1-7    407 
Dec 8-14   532 
Dec 15-21  595 
Dec 22-28  452 
Dec 29-31  319 

total: 2,305 = 74.3 per day

(2021)
Jan 1-7   585   
Jan 8-14  740    
Jan 15-21 452
Jan 22-28 733

total: 2,510 = 89.6 per day

(with 3 days left in Jan).

Death counts are of course a lagging indicator up or down dependent on case counts and the more direct and reliable stat,  hospitalizations. So unless the strains turn more deadly, the death counts should go down as hospitalizations go down, but it hasn't happened yet.

- OS

 

It's odd that the  7-day case rate peaked on Jan 6 and is now down from 7,588 to ~2,800 while the death rate continues to climb. I think we'll see a sharp decline in death rates soon.  Everything else... case rates, hospitalization rates, etc... is trending down.  Regardless, I'll continue to take vitamin D3 and my other supplements.

Edited by jgradyc
Posted
17 hours ago, deerslayer said:

Well it looks like the next round of stupidity will be requiring two masks.  It's not mandated yet, but give them a couple weeks...

After better part of a year of being as responsible as possible and now that a vaccine is so close, if I needed to go inside a building, I'd wear a frigging space helmet if I had one!

I'm actually gonna use curbside pickup from Kroger for first time in a few days.

- OS

  • Like 2
  • Moderators
Posted
14 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

 

I'm actually gonna use curbside pickup from Kroger for first time in a few days.

- OS

The quality of the service varies wildly from store to store, and the substitutions sometimes make very little sense at all. If you have a good store, with good curbside that’s great. If not, I’ll ask my wife what personal shopping app she uses as she has had amazing luck with that. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

The quality of the service varies wildly from store to store, and the substitutions sometimes make very little sense at all. If you have a good store, with good curbside that’s great. If not, I’ll ask my wife what personal shopping app she uses as she has had amazing luck with that. 

I'm just gonna use their online system from puter. I think I'll just check no substitutions, whatever I get will be enough I'm sure.

May need to do same from Sam's too before I can get dosed.

- OS

Edited by Oh Shoot
  • Like 1
Posted
54 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

After better part of a year of being as responsible as possible and now that a vaccine is so close, if I needed to go inside a building, I'd wear a frigging space helmet if I had one!

I'm actually gonna use curbside pickup from Kroger for first time in a few days.

- OS

I have been going in and out of buildings without two masks (gasp!) for a year now and have somehow survived.  

  • Like 3
Posted
4 minutes ago, deerslayer said:

I have been going in and out of buildings without two masks (gasp!) for a year now and have somehow survived.  

Me too. Fewer than 10 times though. But I'm hedging my bets even more now, especially with the apparently more contagious strains coming into play.

I'd really be pissed if I croaked so close to being able to change the odds big time by getting dosed. (I have more than one chink in my anti-virus armor btw).

- OS

  • Like 4
Posted (edited)


TN average daily Covid deaths:

(2020)
March      0.7  (first death 3/21/20)
April       5.8
May        5.3
June        8.0
July       14.7
Aug       22.5
Sept      23.2
Oct        29.0
Nov       41.9
Dec       74.3
(2021)
Jan       88.4            

total TN deaths thru 1/31/21: 9,650

----------------------------

edit note:

I did a quick back check on overall deaths per day average (28.5) x the 316 days since first death, and only got 9,006 deaths. They must have revised some of the days here and there to higher death counts after I'd already tabulated their monthly totals, but I'm not gonna go back and ferret them out. So my figures are actually a bit on the conservative side compared to the official total as stands today.

- OS

Edited by Oh Shoot
Posted

We're starting to see more promising data from the vaccine and how it's working on the new strains of COVID-19 we're seeing.  I get a daily news update from the NY Times and here is what they sent me this morning.

 

All five vaccines with public results have eliminated Covid-19 deaths. They have also drastically reduced hospitalizations. “They’re all good trial results,” Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University, told me. “It’s great news. 

In the official language of research science, a vaccine is typically considered effective only if it prevents people from coming down with any degree of illness. With a disease that’s always or usually horrible, like ebola or rabies, that definition is also the most meaningful one.

But it’s not the most meaningful definition for most coronavirus infections.

Whether you realize it or not, you have almost certainly had a coronavirus. Coronaviruses have been circulating for decades if not centuries, and they’re often mild. The common cold can be a coronavirus. The world isn’t going to eliminate coronaviruses — or this particular one, known as SARS-CoV-2 — anytime soon.

Yet we don’t need to eliminate it for life to return to normal. We instead need to downgrade it from a deadly pandemic to a normal virus. Once that happens, adults can go back to work, and children back to school. Grandparents can nuzzle their grandchildren, and you can meet your friends at a restaurant.

As Dr. Ashish Jha, the dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, told me this weekend: “I don’t actually care about infections. I care about hospitalizations and deaths and long-term complications.” 

By those measures, all five of the vaccines — from Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Novavax and Johnson & Johnson — look extremely good. Of the roughly 75,000 people who have received one of the five in a research trial, not a single person has died from Covid, and only a few people appear to have been hospitalized. None have remained hospitalized 28 days after receiving a shot.

To put that in perspective, it helps to think about what Covid has done so far to a representative group of 75,000 American adults: It has killed roughly 150 of them and sent several hundred more to the hospital. The vaccines reduce those numbers to zero and nearly zero, based on the research trials.

Zero isn’t even the most relevant benchmark. A typical U.S. flu season kills between five and 15 out of every 75,000 adults and hospitalizes more than 100 of them.

I assume you would agree that any vaccine that transforms Covid into something much milder than a typical flu deserves to be called effective. But that is not the scientific definition. When you read that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was 66 percent effective or that the Novavax vaccine was 89 percent effective, those numbers are referring to the prevention of all illness. They count mild symptoms as a failure.

“In terms of the severe outcomes, which is what we really care about, the news is fantastic,” Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.

What about the highly contagious new virus variants that have emerged in Britain, Brazil and South Africa? The South African variant does appear to make the vaccines less effective at eliminating infections.

Fortunately, there is no evidence yet that it increases deaths among vaccinated people. Two of the five vaccines — from Johnson & Johnson and Novavax — have reported some results from South Africa, and none of the people there who received a vaccine died of Covid. “People are still not getting serious illness. They’re still not dying,” Dr. Rebecca Wurtz of the University of Minnesota School of Public Health told me.

The most likely reason, epidemiologists say, is that the vaccines still provide considerable protection against the variant, albeit not quite as much as against the original version. Some protection appears to be enough to turn this coronavirus into a fairly normal disease in the vast majority of cases.

“This variant is clearly making it a little tougher to get the most vigorous response that you would want to have,” Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, said. “But still, for severe disease, it’s looking really good.”

 

  • Like 4
  • Thanks 1
Posted

And then there is this:

https://nationalfile.com/busted-cdc-inflated-covid-numbers-accused-of-violating-federal-law/

BUSTED: CDC Inflated COVID Numbers, Accused of Violating Federal Law

by PATRICK HOWLEY

 February 1, 2021

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stands accused of violating federal law by inflating Coronavirus fatality numbers, according to stunning information obtained by NATIONAL FILE.

CDC illegally inflated the COVID fatality number by at least 1,600 percent as the 2020 presidential election played out, according to a study published by the Public Health Initiative of the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. The study, “COVID-19 Data Collection, Comorbidity & Federal Law: A Historical Retrospective,” was authored by Henry Ealy, Michael McEvoy, Daniel Chong, John Nowicki , Monica Sava, Sandeep Gupta, David White, James Jordan , Daniel Simon, and Paul Anderson.

The CDC is now legally requiring red-blooded Americans to wear face masks on all public transportation as globalists try to push the concept of “double-masking” on the populace. Since the election, the World Health Organization admits that PCR tests are not totally reliable on the first try and a second test might be needed. This corresponds with CDC’s quiet admission that it blended viral and antibody test results for its case numbers and that people can test positive on an antibody test if they have antibodies from a family of viruses that cause the common cold. Hospitals in Florida had so many accuracy complications that Orlando Health had to admit that its 9.4 percent positivity rate got recorded at 98 percent.

“The groundbreaking peer-reviewed research…asserts that the CDC willfully violated multiple federal laws including the Information Quality Act, Paperwork Reduction Act, and Administrative Procedures Act at minimum. (Publishing Journal – Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge / Public Health Policy Initiative) Most notably, the CDC illegally enacted new rules for data collection and reporting exclusively for COVID-19 that resulted in a 1,600% inflation of current COVID-19 fatality totals,” the watchdog group All Concerned Citizens declared in a statement provided to NATIONAL FILE, referring to the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge study.

“The research demonstrates that the CDC failed to apply for mandatory federal oversight and failed to open a mandatory period for public scientific comment in both instances as is required by federal law before enacting new rules for data collection and reporting. The CDC is required to be in full compliance with all federal laws even during emergency situations. The research asserts that CDC willfully compromised the accuracy and integrity of all COVID-19 case and fatality data from the onset of this crisis in order to fraudulently inflate case and fatality data,” stated All Concerned Citizens.

“On March 24th the CDC published the NVSS COVID-19 Alert No. 2 document instructing medical examiners, coroners and physicians to deemphasize underlying causes of death, also referred to as pre-existing conditions or comorbidities, by recording them in Part II rather than Part I of death certificates as “…the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause of death more often than not.” This was a major rule change for death certificate reporting from the CDC’s 2003 Coroners’ Handbook on Death Registration and Fetal Death Reporting and Physicians’ Handbook on Medical Certification of Death, which have instructed death reporting professionals nationwide to report underlying conditions in Part I for the previous 17 years. This single change resulted in a significant inflation of COVID-19 fatalities by instructing that COVID-19 be listed in Part I of death certificates as a definitive cause of death regardless of confirmatory evidence, rather than listed in Part II as a contributor to death in the presence of pre-existing conditions, as would have been done using the 2003 guidelines. The research draws attention to this key distinction as it has led to a significant inflation in COVID fatality totals. By the researcher’s estimates, COVID-19 recorded fatalities are inflated nationwide by as much as 1600% above what they would be had the CDC used the 2003 handbooks,” stated All Concerned Citizens.

“Then on April 14th, the CDC adopted additional rules exclusive for COVID-19 in violation of federal law by outsourcing data collection rule development to the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists (CSTE), a non-profit entity, again without applying for oversight and opening opportunity for public scientific review. On April 5th the CSTE published a position paper Standardized surveillance case definition and national notification for 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) listing 5 CDC employees as subject matter experts. This key document created new rules for counting probable cases as actual cases without definitive proof of infection (section VII.A1 – pages 4 & 5), new rules for contact tracing allowing contact tracers to practice medicine without a license (section VII.A3 – page 5), and yet refused to define new rules for ensuring that the same person could not be counted multiple times as a new case (section VII.B – page 7),” stated All Concerned Citizens.

“By enacting these new rules exclusively for COVID-19 in violation of federal law, the research alleges that the CDC significantly inflated data that has been used by elected officials and public health officials, in conjunction with unproven projection models from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME), to justify extended closures for schools, places of worship, entertainment, and small businesses leading to unprecedented emotional and economic hardships nationwide. A formal petition has been sent to the Department of Justice as well as all US Attorneys seeking an immediate grand jury investigation into these allegations,” All Concerned Citizens stated.

So…do you still trust the globalist oligarchs?

 

  • Like 2
  • Angry 2
Posted
On 1/30/2021 at 3:13 PM, deerslayer said:

I have been going in and out of buildings without two masks (gasp!) for a year now and have somehow survived.  

Some of us here didnt.

  • Like 2
Posted
6 minutes ago, Daniel said:

Some of us here didnt.

And there's the rub. The damn virus is real and it's deadly. The truth is it's not as bad as our worst fears but it's still a killer. I'm continually amazed at the jackasses that are in total denial. Real men are responsible to more than just themselves. Some of you guys ...never mind. I'm weary of the stupidity.

Adios boys. I need a break.

  • Like 4
  • Admin Team
Posted
1 hour ago, Omega said:

“The groundbreaking peer-reviewed research…asserts that the CDC willfully violated multiple federal laws including the Information Quality Act, Paperwork Reduction Act, and Administrative Procedures Act at minimum

I’m not sure their definition of “peer review” would withstand much in the way of actual peer review.

That said, this may be the only time I’ve ever read is someone being accused of willfully violating the Paperwork Reduction Act. 

  • Haha 2
Posted
9 hours ago, Omega said:

So…do you still trust the globalist oligarchs

I'm not sure but I damn sure don't trust the National File. How do you know any of that is true?

Looks like a great source of unbiased news with some interesting polls. 

 

 

Capture+_2021-02-04-06-53-47.png

Posted

My wife got the first of two vaccinations yesterday. Cumberland county is using a drive-through system and she got the shot while sitting in the truck. The only side-effect, as of this morning, is a good deal of tenderness at the injection site, but no joint pain and no headache. 

  • Like 2

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

TRADING POST NOTICE

Before engaging in any transaction of goods or services on TGO, all parties involved must know and follow the local, state and Federal laws regarding those transactions.

TGO makes no claims, guarantees or assurances regarding any such transactions.

THE FINE PRINT

Tennessee Gun Owners (TNGunOwners.com) is the premier Community and Discussion Forum for gun owners, firearm enthusiasts, sportsmen and Second Amendment proponents in the state of Tennessee and surrounding region.

TNGunOwners.com (TGO) is a presentation of Enthusiast Productions. The TGO state flag logo and the TGO tri-hole "icon" logo are trademarks of Tennessee Gun Owners. The TGO logos and all content presented on this site may not be reproduced in any form without express written permission. The opinions expressed on TGO are those of their authors and do not necessarily reflect those of the site's owners or staff.

TNGunOwners.com (TGO) is not a lobbying organization and has no affiliation with any lobbying organizations.  Beware of scammers using the Tennessee Gun Owners name, purporting to be Pro-2A lobbying organizations!

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to the following.
Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Guidelines
 
We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.